supersellertim
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Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:39 pm

It seems as if I am not editing properly. Here is the original:
Big version: Width: 3456 Height: 2304 File size: 2611kb

and here is the one I edited:
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Obviously I am not doing something correctly. Anyone want to give a work-flow, or a quick demonstration edit?
Thanks in advance!
 
JakTrax
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:02 pm

Two things jump out at me immediately - level and distance.

You need to use the crop tool to eliminate the dead space from around the aircraft (i.e. make the 'plane fill more of your frame) but before you even consider doing that you need to level the image using vertical references, such as the sides of buildings. You'll also need to sufficiently sharpen the picture.

Other than these issues the colour and contrast look pretty good to me.

Karl
 
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:11 pm

You've got 2 dust spots, one above the props around 10% down from the top and the other above and just to the left of the telegraph pole in the centre about 25% down from the top.

And lots of heat haze.
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:38 pm



Quoting Supersellertim (Thread starter):
or a quick demonstration edit?

here ya go, how does this look?
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 545kb
re-edit for Supersellertim


Quoting Oly720man (Reply 2):
And lots of heat haze.

that may be the limiting factor.
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:39 pm



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 3):
here ya go, how does this look?

oops, think it needs a little ccw rotation.
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:42 pm

Thanks guys!
I think this is a little bit better....:
Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 686 File size: 640kb
 
supersellertim
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:45 pm

Thanks UnattendedBag! That does look good. I guess you could be heat haze at any temp, including 45 degrees F?
 
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:38 pm

Whoops, I meant there could be heat haze in the previous post. Dont know what I was thinking. Could Unattendedbags edit be airliners.net quality with the ccw rotation?
 
supersellertim
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:09 pm

Sorry about the 4 consecutive posts, but what about this?
Big version: Width: 1600 Height: 1200 File size: 1351kb
 
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:44 am



Quoting Supersellertim (Reply 8):
Sorry about the 4 consecutive posts, but what about this?

It needs a thighter crop, and there are the same issues with heat haze as in your first pic. It also does not seem level to me.

Why did you set the ISO to 200 for both pics? ISO 100 is just fine in daylight conditions, even when shooting fast objects. In addition, you should set the aperture to F/8.
 
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:58 am



Quoting Supersellertim (Reply 8):

I dont think the quality is good enough in this image to worry about it,one of personal collection.
Looks grainy,fuzzy and soft due to heathaze.
 
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:47 am

Quoting Supersellertim (Reply 5):
Thanks guys!
I think this is a little bit better....:

But have you noticed that you now have a very distinct colour cast in this image compared with the previous version. The previous version had more natural "neutral" looking colours. This new one is very warm.

The heat haze ruins it for your images - not much you or any of us can do to solve that.  Sad Just some unfortunate weather conditions sadly.

[Edited 2009-04-16 03:48:47]
 
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:06 pm

I have noticed the warm color and the heat haze. Are there certain conditions that make heat rise of the runway/ramp? Or is it just a given to shoot aircraft 20/30 ft above the runway?
Thanks for the help!
 
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:19 pm



Quoting Supersellertim (Reply 12):
Are there certain conditions that make heat rise of the runway/ramp?

As long as the runway/ground can absorb heat and then radiate it into cooler air by convection of the heated air next to the ground you'll get heat haze.

If it's a bit windy you could find it's reduced a bit, just because the wind will disrupt the rising air currents.
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:42 am



Quoting FlyP3C (Reply 9):
In addition, you should set the aperture to F/8.

f4 is just fine at that distance.
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RE: Editing Correctly...

Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:37 am



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 14):
f4 is just fine at that distance.

True, but also depends on the object you are taking pictures of. So why take the risk of parts of the object being out of focus.

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