wilco737
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Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 7:37 am

Hello everybody,

I just got this picture rejected for "contrast" and "common".

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20090526_b1242734454.0646d-abvy_u.jpg

Common, sure, a B744 in FRA is pretty common Big grin

The contrast. Can anybody help me here? How can I improve the problem with contrast. It was about 10:45am when I took this picture, the sun was coming from the front left. It was not 100% clear on that day, slightly hazey... It was taken through the cockpit window with Canon D40, ISO200, 1/640s, f9, Canon 24-105mm lense.

Any help?

Thanks.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 7:41 am

The lighting is a little flat, difficult conditions to shoot in really with the sun at that angle. It needs the contrast increasing as the whites currently look more grey. There's not much you can do about common though!

Happy flying,

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 7:46 am



Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
The lighting is a little flat, difficult conditions to shoot in really with the sun at that angle. It needs the contrast increasing as the whites currently look more grey.

So I need to pimp the contrast a little more then? I am usually using the Curves tool. Would it be easier with the levels tool here?

Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 1):
There's not much you can do about common though!

True, but I thought if the quality is good enough, then it still can get accpted, no?

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 7:52 am

I tried a new edit:

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 683 File size: 459kb


Is that any better?

thanks.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 7:58 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 3):
Is that any better?

Definitely. As mentioned, lighting conditions were pretty tough, so don't know if it's good enough, but definitely better to me, contrast-wise.

I'd also pull back the blue and cyan a little bit also.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 7:59 am

Hi,

If an image is common, is it's significance equal to a motive rejection? ie: You can't do anything about it, can you?
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 8:02 am

No, a common rejection always comes with another rejection reason. In other words, if you fix the contrast the common goes away too.
 
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 8:03 am



Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 4):
Definitely. As mentioned, lighting conditions were pretty tough, so don't know if it's good enough, but definitely better to me, contrast-wise.

light wasn't the best, indeed. But I liked the angle of the B744.

Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 4):
I'd also pull back the blue and cyan a little bit also.

Ok, will do that and see how it looks like.

Thanks a lot for the feedback.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 9:09 am

Hi Phil,

as you may know the common rejection only means that for the given aircraft the acceptance standards are higher, so your shot needs to be much better quality-wise than for a non-common aircraft.

I also think that the contrast on the second edit is better but watch out for blown out areas on the top of the fuselage; reducing the lighting might help with that.

Good luck!

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Wed May 27, 2009 10:55 am



Quoting ThierryD (Reply 8):
as you may know the common rejection only means that for the given aircraft the acceptance standards are higher, so your shot needs to be much better quality-wise than for a non-common aircraft.

Alright, that's how I thought it is as well.

Quoting ThierryD (Reply 8):
I also think that the contrast on the second edit is better but watch out for blown out areas on the top of the fuselage; reducing the lighting might help with that.

I guess another one for my personal collection....

Thanks.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sat May 30, 2009 8:20 am

Hi Guys,

I just browsed through my pictures and found this one:

Big version: Width: 683 Height: 1024 File size: 230kb
Wing view of the MD11F


It has been taken through the window over the wing of the MD11F.

I guess this is a nice view as you don't see window views during flight of a freighter too often. The problem is: I couldn't step further to the back as there were cargo parked there  Smile
And there are no other windows I could've walked to, to get a different angle. So this was the best I could do.
Does it stand any chance or not? I doubt it...

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sat May 30, 2009 10:28 am

to be honest i quite like it!i wont comment on quality since im terrible at editing and im also on a laptop....but the engine is very close to being cut-off at the front,

regards

conor

p.s i really like the fact that its a feighter!
 
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sat May 30, 2009 10:41 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 10):

Not entirely sure that they'll like the frame of the window...
It's all about the destination AND the journey.
 
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sat May 30, 2009 10:46 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 10):
Does it stand any chance or not?

I like it. As far as motive, I don't know how the screeners will react. I think the level is a bit off though.
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sat May 30, 2009 10:53 am

Thanks for the feedback guys,

Quoting Conoramoia (Reply 11):
but the engine is very close to being cut-off at the front,

I saw that once I was back in my seat and thought: damn, but it is the best picture I could take.

Quoting Conoramoia (Reply 11):
p.s i really like the fact that its a feighter!

me too, but that is not enough to get it accepted Big grin

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 12):
Not entirely sure that they'll like the frame of the window...

That is one of my biggest concerns. But I cannot crop it tighter to get rid of the frame. I couldn't chose a different angle as this is the only window near the wing... So no other options than this window.

Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 13):
I think the level is a bit off though.

It is not the final edit, it was just a quick one to make it ready for this thread and see if it is worth it to put more effort in it.

I guess I will not upload it then. Seem to be quality problems and of course the motiv.

Thanks anyway.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 14):
I couldn't chose a different angle as this is the only window near the wing...

It looks like you could have stuck the camera onto the window and got a shot of the engine  Wink

But other than the engine, the clouds aren't that spectacular etc.. Maybe if there were some nice CBs floating around and maybe some paddocks below, it would be a different picture. Oh well.. Nice to have as a desktop wallpaper though!
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sat May 30, 2009 12:44 pm



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 15):

But other than the engine, the clouds aren't that spectacular etc.. Maybe if there were some nice CBs floating around and maybe some paddocks below, it would be a different picture. Oh well.. Nice to have as a desktop wallpaper though!

I totally agree. The clouds are rather boring. Problem is: I cannot get back there on every flight. It is not that I spend the whole time back there Big grin Only for 2 minutes, taking the shot (don't forget to take Oxygen with you) and then back into my seat...

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 15):
It looks like you could have stuck the camera onto the window and got a shot of the engine Wink

Nope, wasn't that close. But between the pallets and the wall is only about 50cm of space. So not a lot to make a lot of movements and sitting down or something  Smile

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sun May 31, 2009 5:32 am



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 16):

Indeed. I've never been on a Freighter, just like many others.. Maybe before you go next, upgrade your DSLR to one with live view  Wink
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sun May 31, 2009 5:55 am



Quoting NZ107 (Reply 17):
Maybe before you go next, upgrade your DSLR to one with live view Wink

Good plan. I will spend a couple of hundred Euros just to take a picture of the wing of the MD11F during flight  Wink

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post- Screening (wilco737)

Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:02 pm

The 744 got rejected for colour now. I don't really see it. I guess I need glasses.

Thanks again for the feeback guys. Another one for my personal collection  Smile

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