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Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:41 pm

Hi.

I just had this picture rejected due bad level.



It's a 10mm shot, so the only reference lines on the lower right corner are completely unreliable. The original full frame picture shows some reliable small lines on the center of the image; and according to these, the picture is reasonably leveled.
Now these lines are cropped out, is there any way to level the picture?

Greatly appreciated.

Stil

[Edited 2009-06-22 11:42:05]
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:42 pm

This thread is worthless without a picture  Smile
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:42 pm



Quoting Stil (Thread starter):

The picture does not show... No picture visisble for me.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:43 pm

I was trying to edit it, but i'll show the whole link instead of a image. Sorry.

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...45061489.0927r1206ecipitalmoon.jpg

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:51 pm



Quoting Stil (Reply 3):

 eyepopping  That shot is awesome. I love it.

Level, hmm, I guess they took the buildings at the bottom right as reference and they look unlevel. but to be honest, I wouldn't know how to edit it to make it level.

Good luck with that shot, it is great.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:53 pm

Agreed, nice shot! Try posting a version with the buildings level. I would like to see the difference. Specifcally the vertical line of the building.
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:46 pm

Thanks for your comments.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 4):
I guess they took the buildings at the bottom right

I don't want to think so. Screeners are great photographers, and they know for sure one can´t rely on a vertical lines on the edge of a wide angle shoot. I think they rejected this image by means of a 'unlevel' feeling. Don't get me wrong, it's a valid rejection reason for me, but I completely fail to see how to level it.

Quoting RonS (Reply 5):
Try posting a version with the buildings level

I didn't say it was a building, but there's some lines i used for leveling on the full frame version.
Big version: Width: 700 Height: 467 File size: 180kb
original image just resized

This is a resized copy of the original picture. The grass near the taxiway is on the center of the image, so I used this information for leveling. i only use horizontal lines on wide angles when theuy are on the center of theimage, as in this case.
And there's some taxiway lights on the center of the image which 'seems' to be vertical.
Big version: Width: 333 Height: 222 File size: 48kb
Crop of taxiway lights at original size


Well, these were the...

Quoting Stil (Thread starter):
some reliable small lines on the center of the image

I was talking about.

What do you think?

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:58 pm

Hi.

I agree with Phil that it is a lovely photo. Unfortunately I believe you will have to edit it in a particular way to avoid the potential for that level rejection.

I have had a two minute play with your image, to have a look what it could look like - though I believe it could be improved further by using the original. This is what I came up with:

Big version: Width: 1024 Height: 768 File size: 329kb
Stil's Image

For me this may work better for the screeners, and it is certainly worth another try.

If you would like any further help, or would like me to have a look at the original, please feel free to drop me a line.

All the best.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:01 am



Quoting Stil (Reply 6):
I don't want to think so. Screeners are great photographers, and they know for sure one can´t rely on a vertical lines on the edge of a wide angle shoot. I think they rejected this image by means of a 'unlevel' feeling. Don't get me wrong, it's a valid rejection reason for me, but I completely fail to see how to level it.

I know what you mean. Looks like Paul (Psych) made a good edit which looks excellent to me.

Quoting Psych (Reply 7):
I have had a two minute play with your image, to have a look what it could look like - though I believe it could be improved further by using the original. This is what I came up with:

I like thart version  thumbsup 

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:16 pm

Thanks, Paul.

I think you did a great edit  bigthumbsup 
I tried to use the hangar vertical lines as a reference and the airdraft looks like it were heavily braking. I'll have to try a different leveling procedure.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:43 am



Quoting Stil (Reply 9):
Thanks, Paul.

I think you did a great edit

You are very kind.

Out of interest, and to help others in a similar situation, would anyone in the know care to clarify whether an edit such as mine above (which clearly could be seen in some quarters as 'manipulating' the original, in order to straighten those distortions due to the wide angle used) would be considered acceptable, or could result in an 'edit' rejection, or even worse!

Cheers.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Post Screening - Level

Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:13 am

Hi Paul.

I think you rose an interesting question here. Thanks for bringing it up.
I have to admit I uploaded a different level edit because I wasn't confident about acceptability of the procedure you proposed here. Well, in fact my toughts were the edit was acceptable, but some small warning light somewhere into my brain made me change my mind.
I'm not sure if vignetting correcting procedures are allowed; but if they are, and having in mind that other editions such as HDR are completely forbidden and leads to banning, I'll ask a direct question...
Are lens distortion correction procedures -as the one Paul proposed- allowed on A.net?

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