JohnJ
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A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:38 pm

We have several threads running now relating poor photo sale experiences or companies trying to get something for nothing. It would be nice to also pass on the names of those companies who deal fairly with photographers supplying photos.

My latest such experience was with Hasegawa Model Company from Japan. They contacted me several months ago about one of my A.net photos they wanted to use as box art for a new model. They stated their price, which I felt was fair, and I accepted. A twist here is that they didn't want to pay me until the model was released. This made me a bit wary, even more so when I saw the model with my picture appear in the upcoming releases section of their web site. No worries, soon after they proactively contacted me to arrange payment details and also arranged to pay me in US dollars vs. the yen price that we'd agree upon. They sent me a status e-mail once the package was shipped, complete with tracking number. Less than a week later my package arrived.

Anyway, thought I'd pass on a positive experience. The fact that Hasegawa makes awesome models is icing on the cake, and I can't wait to build one of the two samples they sent.

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timdegroot
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:29 pm

Congrats, which model was it for?
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JohnJ
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:47 pm

It's the Boeing C-40C (military 737).
 
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:58 pm

I also had a good experience with Hasegawa. It was the same timeline as your's. Model building got me into photography to accumulate documentation.

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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:05 pm



Quoting JohnJ (Thread starter):
They contacted me several months ago about one of my A.net photos they wanted to use as box art for a new model.

Congrats for the sale! Can you show us your shot that is used for the box?

Quoting F4wso (Reply 3):
Model building got me into photography to accumulate documentation.

Same here  Wink


I also had a positive experience (in 2007) with the company "Duval-Guillaume". One of their designers contacted me after seeing one of my shots here:

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They wanted, however, a similar shot from inside the cargo area towards the outside, but with the ramp opened. I politely asked them how much they would pay for such a shot. They replied, I found that reasonable and I accepted. Since I did not have such a shot readily available, I took some shots during one the next events/open days I visited that year and presented these to the designers (that shot is not on here, since there were people visible in the shot).
I was not paid in advance, but once they accepted the picture, they also paid the invoice correctly within the agreed payment terms.

Here's the link to the short-story (on my website), on how the idea developed into an advertisement:
http://www.walter2219.fotopic.net/c1675501_1.html

The end product was an advertisement for a design-chair called "cargo"


Best regards,

Walter
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:31 pm

I had only one time an airline who refused to pay. So they didn't get my picture. I won't tell which airline it is.

My own company used one picture without asking me. They just downloaded it from here, removed the copyright bar and put it in a handout for pilots  Smile I contacted them, they said they were sorry. And in the next handout they had the permission to use another one of mine.


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The other two was no problem as well. They contacted me, I told them what I want for the picture and they accepted as well. Was handled in short time without any problems.


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I won't tell the companies names as I am not sure if they really want that.

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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:14 pm

Good threat - I always forget that I had a few good sales when I write an email to a probable customer and never get a reply.


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Also a nice opportunity to self-plug a bit  Wink

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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:51 pm



Quoting Walter2222 (Reply 4):
Congrats for the sale! Can you show us your shot that is used for the box?

Sure! Here's the "before" shot:


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And the "after":

http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/e-w/NEWDETAIL/0905/10667.html
 
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:03 pm



Quoting JohnJ (Reply 7):
And the "after":

That 's looking good! Thanks for sharing!

Best regards,

Walter
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:01 am



Quoting JohnJ (Reply 7):
Sure! Here's the "before" shot:



Quoting JohnJ (Reply 7):
And the "after":

Nice!!!  thumbsup 

Congrats!  champagne 

Cheers
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:14 am

How much do you guys ask for a photo in terms of money? I'm just curious because I've been contacted a couple of times and have no idea how much I should ask for a photo. What's a typical price? That way in the future I don't lowball myself or ask too much to scare them away.
 
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:17 am

Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 10):

I always ask what they are willing to pay and then agree or tell them the price I would be happy with. But I had never a sale where I had a minimu price which I would've told at first b/c of a rare pic or e.g. being a big company/newspaper.

georg

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JohnJ
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RE: A Positive Photo Sale

Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:32 pm



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 11):
I always ask what they are willing to pay and then agree or tell them the price I would be happy with. But I had never a sale where I had a minimu price which I would've told at first b/c of a rare pic or e.g. being a big company/newspaper.

That's one of the reasons I'm giving Hasegawa kudos right now, because they made it so easy. The sent me an e-mail stating their intended purpose for my photo, told me the price they'd pay me to use it and what their timeline was. Then they made good on what they said they'd do. The price was not a lowball, and while it wasn't a huge sum of money it was enough to make me happy.

Otherwise I find setting a price to be walking a fine line. Most of my previous sales have been to PR firms or corporations wishing to use my images in marketing or training materials, and most of the shots they wanted aren't particularly unique. With one recent sale, I gave a price for a photo and the person with whom I was dealing came back immediately with a list of other aircraft she was looking for. I suspect I gave too low a price for the initial photo, but in the end I may have come out ahead since I ultimately sold 5 photos to her.

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