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pilotkev1
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Few Questions Regarding Rejections

Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:50 pm

Hi all,

Let's start by saying I don't mean any disrespect to any screeners in this post.

I uploaded a photo a while back of a CO 777 pictured here. Rejected for a soft tail and for exposure.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...245828968.931n78017iah20090620.jpg

I decided to go in to Photoshop and sharpen the tail a bit, and tune the exposure slightly. The result was this. Rejected for color, and contrast. In addition to this, I was warned from uploading photos that exceed 1300 pixels, with a note stating most of my photos had very large color/contrast discrepancies.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...46480671.8633n78017iah20090620.jpg

I guess I'm just having a bit of trouble understanding the decisions made by this screener. Perhaps he can elaborate? I'd particularly like to see which photos (rejected or accepted) feature this massive color/contrast irregularity so I can hopefully remedy the weak link in my post production process, and continue uploading high quality photos to Airliners.net.

Thanks very much, and have a good one.

- Kevin
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RE: Few Questions Regarding Rejections

Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:03 pm

The size issue is easy, that shot is not the best quality and any effort to upload should be 1024. It's overexposed and the contrast is off. IMO I would bin it and try again with some better lighting and exposure.
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RE: Few Questions Regarding Rejections

Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:12 pm

Kevin:

As far as contrast goes you've got a real hot spot above the first port side door, it's all burned out. Your tires are also solid black. Some highlight recovery in RAW software or not applying so much contrast/too strong of a curve will keep that from happening. As far as the blacks, using a lower black clipping level and again not using too much on the contrast slider will keep that from happening. The belly also seems too strong but there may be some reflected light from, say, water that's lightening it up.

The whites seem neutral enough but the CO gray looks a bit too warm. Now, it should be a warm gray, but it's too warm/red in the photo. It's a case where you'd pull the red/green tint slider a few points to the green direction to even it out. Are you adding any saturation in? I would back off a bit if you are.

I can't tell you about what the screener thinks but from my eyes if you had a RAW or unprocessed file this could be taken care of.
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RE: Few Questions Regarding Rejections

Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:12 pm

Hi Kevin - as the screener who rejected your shots, please let me comment:

The 777 shot is soft and overexposed - you were also shooting in terrible light. Even with perfect post processing the shot will turn out marginal, all the more reason it should not be uploaded at anything larger than 1024 pixels wide, which really goes for all your uploads. 1600 should be something special and not to be abused.

I am not sure what the settings were, but many of your shots are soft on the right hand side, almost like you have a defective lens. Is it a 100-400 L? Maybe have it checked for accuracy.

edit for typo

[Edited 2009-07-08 13:13:38]
 
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RE: Few Questions Regarding Rejections

Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:05 pm

Hi Royal,

My sincerest thanks for getting back to me, it's very much appreciated.

The only reason I uploaded the 777 shot (not posted in this thread) was due to a prior acceptance under similar conditions about a year ago, I'll be certain not to upload anymore like that (hell I won't even take the shot). Thanks for clearing that up.

I'm shooting with the Sigma 80-400 EX OS lens at the moment, and have used the 70-200 L f2.8. Not long ago I was involved in an auto accident and had my camera in the passenger seat, it's a very good chance something could have happened then. I'll get it checked out.

Once again thanks to everyone who's helped, much appreciated. Have a good one.

- Kevin
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RE: Few Questions Regarding Rejections

Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:37 am

Wow - hope you were okay!

I think that angle you work is a good one, how does it look in the earlier AM or later PM hours?
 
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RE: Few Questions Regarding Rejections

Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:50 am

Thanks Royal, it was a rough collision with a semi-truck just near IAH, while I was chasing KLM. Truck made a right turn with no blinker. I turned out alright with just a broken foot, but the lens hood was busted.

In the AM I tend to get a really good light form the south, of course it's backlit at the "official" spot for runway 27 which is just north of the runway, and with this Houston humidity one can't really depend on the sun to be shining in the morning anyway.

Once you cross into that "Late afternoon" period is when the really nice low-northern light come out, and of course the real treasure shots come through once the sun goes down on a wind-less night.
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