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Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:18 pm

This rather unisual jet came to rest at my home 'drome. It's a Fouga CM-170 Magister.

I sure hope these shots are up to snuff (or close to), or I may just have to give up. This plane is on the ground, stationary and I can get close to it. If I'm not able to get clear, sharp shots of this, well, I don't know what to do, or what I'm doing.  Confused

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:42 pm

The first two aren't level.
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:15 am



Quoting 787seattle (Reply 1):
The first two aren't level.

Yes.

And they are soft. Don't forget, however, that a lot of the 'sharpness' you see here on a.net is a result of the editing process. You might be taking good shots, but if you're not editing them properly, it might be hard to tell (as in this case).

As always, would need to see the full size to tell you if it editable to standards.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:56 pm

OK, maybe I am too hesitant with the unsharpen mask function. Here are straightened, sharpened versions of the same:

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Sun Jul 26, 2009 9:11 am



Quoting MHO (Reply 3):
OK, maybe I am too hesitant with the unsharpen mask function. Here are straightened, sharpened versions of the same:

You don't need to (and probably shouldn't) blast your photos with USM... the sharpening should be done carefully so as not to overdo it. Your edits looks slightly better, but are too sharp in some places, yet not sharp enough in others.

Quoting MHO (Reply 4):
Here are links to full size:

Those are larger versions, but certainly can't be full-size, unless you've done a lot of cropping. Those are only 1400-1500 pix, but since you're shooting with a a350 they should be something like 4500 pix... plus, they look like they've been edited already. Did you have to crop a lot from the original? That could be a reason for the lower quality.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:03 pm

I realized photobucket downsizes the pictures to 1 MB. Going to find a different site.
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:59 pm



Quoting MHO (Reply 6):
I realized photobucket downsizes the pictures to 1 MB. Going to find a different site.

why? images submitted to airliners.net must be less than 1mb too.
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:02 pm



Quoting UnattendedBag (Reply 7):
Quoting MHO (Reply 6):
I realized photobucket downsizes the pictures to 1 MB. Going to find a different site.

why? images submitted to airliners.net must be less than 1mb too.

Probably because the originals are larger than 1MB.  Smile
 
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:26 pm

I uploaded full-sized, untouched RAW format files to a Picasa web album:

http://picasaweb.google.com/DKOMHO/Fouga#5362865619282972258

These should be accessible.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:06 pm



Quoting MHO (Reply 9):
I uploaded full-sized, untouched RAW format files

That's not a RAW format file, that's an un-cropped JPEG. RAW files for Sony would end in .arw, .srf, or .sr2, and be 10+MB in size.

That's ok, however, as I took a look at the JPEG (the RAW file would help mainly for exposure, color, etc...), and can tell you the photo is pretty soft. Whether that's because the focus is off, or because of your lens (some lenses are softer than others), I can't say.

The softness, coupled with the fact that there will be a fair amount of cropping needed (down to 2700pix or so) means that to bring this shot up to acceptable standards will involve a lot of work. I'm not saying it's impossible, but you'll need to spend a lot of time doing some selective sharpening, as there are some areas that need a little sharpening, and some that need a whole lot. You wouldn't be able to blanket sharpen the whole image, because if you applied the amount that was needed for some areas to all, then some would be quite visibly oversharpened.

So... the level of softness in your shot is something that can be overcome if the shot fills the frame, but because you're going to need to crop 40% of the image, it becomes a lot more difficult to hide.

If you want more advice about what may have caused the softness, or about how to proceed with an edit if that's what you want to do, let me know.

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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:30 am

I had to go back and double check what I uploaded, and sure enough, they were *.AWR files. I can only guess that Picasa converts them to jpeg when posting on the site. There were actually 4 files there, but I neglected to mention that or the forward/backward arrows. In some, the plane takes up more of the image. And, yes, thanks, I most certainly appreciate any advice you might have about sharpening. This seems to be my photographic achilles heel.

Here are direct links.

http://picasaweb.google.com/DKOMHO/Fouga#5362865486107709122

http://picasaweb.google.com/DKOMHO/Fouga#5362865519580339618

http://picasaweb.google.com/DKOMHO/Fouga#5362865592580459186

http://picasaweb.google.com/DKOMHO/Fouga#5362865646118801970
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RE: Photo Acceptance - Pre-Screening (MHO) A Rare Bird

Mon Jul 27, 2009 4:45 am

Send me a private message or contact me through my profile and I'll give you my email address so you can send me one of the RAW files. Doing a proper RAW -> JPEG conversion is an important step that makes later edits a lot easier, and I'll see if I can't come up with a better version JPEG.

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