draigonair
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Canon Speedlite

Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:07 pm

Hey guys,

I find it time to purchase a speedlite for my camera. I'm planning to use the flash in cockpits but also at conventions (etc). Im not really sure which speedlite is good for me. I have read some good reviews on several speedlites but which one to choose I'm not sure.
My budget is max 200euros, maybe i can even get it second hand somewhere.

Please let me know which one you would suggest.

(my camera 20D 10-22mm)

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RE: Canon Speedlite

Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:52 pm

A 430 EX or EX II should fit your budget and your needs.
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RE: Canon Speedlite

Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:41 pm

A Canon will do the job of course but if you want max power within your budget have a serious look at Metz.
I am very fond of their latest line up which does everything a Canon does but a bit more for less money without less quality.
Even software upgradeable so you don't have to buy another flash if you upgrade your body.
I started with a Canon EZ for my D30, upgraded to a 10D and the EZ became obsolete and I had to upgrade to EX which again is obsolete by now because for the latest bodies you need an EX-2 flash if you want to use all options.......... great.
Not so with Metz, simply download your new firmware for free and off you go.

The Mecablitz 48 would fit your budget nicely and is even more powerfull compared to the Speedlite 420.
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RE: Canon Speedlite

Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:12 pm

I have the 430 EX II and like it a lot. If you sync several flashes you can only use it as a slave (the master would have to be the 580 EX) but I doubt that will be necessary in such a confined space. Also, I don't know if the sync signal (or any other remote control system) would interfere with any of the avionics.

So I'd say go for the 430 EX (II).
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RE: Canon Speedlite

Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:24 pm

The 430EX with Stofen diffuser has served me well for the last 3 years. For cockpit shots, it has more than enough power.

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Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
 
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RE: Canon Speedlite

Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:16 pm



Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 4):
The 430EX with Stofen diffuser has served me well for the last 3 years. For cockpit shots, it has more than enough power.

If you need to know how far the flash will work, the rule of thumb here is, divide the "Leitzahl", sorry but I don't know the English word, by the aperture you want to use, and the result will be the distance. In the case of the 430EX take 43 divide it by 8 if you want to use f8 and you will get about 5m worth. Owning the 430EX myself, I think it's a nice semipro flash, that will still do a nice job when used in auto mode, or you can set it manually of course. You might want to think about a diffusor like Dazbo5 has mentioned since the light might be to "hard" otherwise, especially in cockpit shots or portraits.

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RE: Canon Speedlite

Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:00 am

The Canon 430 EX II also has integrated wide angle panel which extends coverage to 14mm which will match your lens fairly well. Not sure how this compares with using a stofen diffuser though. I don't get the chance to photo cockpits much but use flash a lot in other photography.

Anyway, I would go for the 430 EX II for its ETTL capabilities and ease of use. I don't have a 20D but I believe you can control the flash settings through the camera on screen menus as on all EOS DSLRs which is a nice feature.


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RE: Canon Speedlite

Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:31 am

A few examples, taken with the Canon 50D with Speedlite 430EX and Stofen diffuser:


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Given the 430EX is now the older model, the 430EX II is the one to go for. Unless you need the extra range of the more powerful 580, the 430 is more than enough. I normally use manual when using the flash for greater control, especially when using it as fill flash to properly expose outside of the aircraft.

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RE: Canon Speedlite

Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:08 pm

Thanks for the input everyone.

I'm thinking of the 430EX or the 430EX II. I'm not sure if i need the II for my purpose...would i need the 'II' for indoor photos? (i.e. a reception)

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RE: Canon Speedlite

Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:22 pm



Quoting Dazbo5 (Reply 7):
Unless you need the extra range of the more powerful 580

An extra powerful flash isn't only used for more range, I don't use it like that anyway.
It just gives more options for indirect light, shorter exposure for fill flash, lower ISO etc.

Quoting Draigonair (Reply 8):
I'm thinking of the 430EX or the 430EX II.

If you plan to upgrade your 20D some time in the future it would be best to go for the EX-2 straight away.
Or switch to another brand of course and stop worrying about compatibility  Smile
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