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vishaljo
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A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:35 pm

There's a very patriotic duo on Flickr hosting some A.net images :-

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/theaviationmasterpieces/

Two friends who loves aviation,comercial and military.John loves comercials planes and Matthews loves military planes.But in the end we love all about aircrafts.We love the USA,and we support our troops,we support our allies too.USA FOREVER.

I'm touched.

Sent them a message:

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Hi,

I appreciate you fine taste in aviation imagery.
Mate the photos you are posting here are copyrighted & the work of others.
Have you contacted them asking for permission to host their photos here ?

Regards - Vishal
 
JeffSFO
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:03 am

Shameless. I reported that account to the powers that be at Flickr alerting them of the copyrighted material being re-posted. Somehow I doubt that duo got permission to do so from the dozens of photographers whose work is featured there.
 
JeffSFO
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:29 am

Flickr got back to me about this. If you see your work reproduced here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/theaviationmasterpieces/

You can report the copyright infringement to Yahoo by following the instructions on this page:

http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/us/details.html

For faster browsing of the photos in question, I recommend viewing them through Flickr River:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/theaviationmasterpieces/
 
P38Ace
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:17 am

Really cut the fingers of this guy. Now I know I know that its wrong. But the way I see it is that we as photographers take a chance putting our pics or other pics here on the World Wide Web. I mean yes it was wrong for this person to do it but,
1. He/she didnt cut the copywrite items off the bottom as some peps would do.

I mean there are millions and millions of people everyday looking on the Web. Its going to happen. I mean crap you want my pictures take them there not good anyways. But my pictures are here on A.Net and there is going to be a chance. If I didnt want them on the Net then dont put them here. I sorry thats just my 2 cents.

BTW the criminal in question has good taste. Those are some good pics he posted. Well mine didnt get used. But oh well maybe next time.
 
vortex003
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:23 pm

Quoting P38Ace (Reply 3):
He/she didnt cut the copywrite items off the bottom as some peps would do.

Well what if some other person / website decided to host all the pics from here with the copyright intact - would that be ok as well?
 
philhyde
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:11 pm

Quoting P38Ace (Reply 3):
He/she didnt cut the copywrite items off the bottom as some peps would do

The way I see it, this is more a violation against airliners.net than having a negative affect on the photographers. To each his own, certainly.
Canon junkie - Aviation Nut
 
stevemchey
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:35 pm

Well, if they would at least add a link to the original image location. That way anyone interested in purchasing a copy could at least get in touch with the copyright owner.
 
pilotealpha
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:09 am

Quoting P38Ace (Reply 3):
1. He/she didnt cut the copywrite items off the bottom as some peps would do.

Does not mean that if he didn't cut the copyright bar, he can use the photos as he wish even if its not commercial.

The following is clearly specified on Airliners.net :

Quote:

"You have limited rights to personally view the images with your web browser and to use them as your personal computer wallpaper (or background image) on your own computer. These photos may not otherwise be reproduced, distributed, cropped, resized, or otherwise altered without the written permission of the photographer........"

"You may not use these photos on any web page, commercial or non-commercial, for profit or non-profit, without written permission from the photographer........"

Now i'm sure that most of the visitors of this site have never read this or the Terms of Use.

We can't also disable the right click on the photos because there are other ways to retrieve them, like for e.g. doing a screencapture or saving the whole page itself.

I think what DM should do is to subclass the menu that appears when the visitor right clicks on the photo. Instead of the menu, when someone right clicks on the shot a message box with the above sentences that i've quoted should be displayed. Its only after the visitor closes the message box that the full menu is displayed. I'm not saying that this is going to stop photo theft completely but its going to be reduced to a great extent.

See, those guys hosting the shots on Flickr, i'm sure they've never read the sentences i've quoted above. If they were aware of it, they would never have done that.

Well thats only my 2 cents. The rest depends on DM.

Regards,
Krishley.G.D.Purmanun
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P38Ace
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sun Feb 28, 2010 8:48 am

Now I am sorry dont get me wrong. What they did is wrong but we all know its the chance we all take having our pictures on the Web.
 
pilotealpha
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:44 am

Quoting p38Ace (Reply 8):
Now I am sorry dont get me wrong.

You don't have to be sorry mate. Everyone has the right to give his opinion and i respect that.

Quoting p38Ace (Reply 8):
What they did is wrong but we all know its the chance we all take having our pictures on the Web.

No, instead they (I don't mean the guys involved in this particular case but people who steal photos in general) are taking a chance of getting in trouble by stealing our photos. If you upload your shots to the internet and want to know if someone is using them on their own page illegally, try this site www.tineye.com . It can find your photos anywhere on the web even if they've been modified.

Regards,
Krishley.G.D.Purmanun
The way I see it, you can either work for a living or you can fly airplanes. Me, I'd rather fly.
 
Dazed767
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:41 pm

Quoting pilotealpha (Reply 9):
try this site www.tineye.com . It can find your photos anywhere on the web even if they've been modified.

Thanks, this opened my eyes to a whole lot of misused photos of mine....wow.
 
pilotealpha
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:02 pm

Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 10):
to a whole lot of misused photos of mine

How many did you find? So now start preparing a nice email asking payment for each one and expect to make some $$   . tineye is a great tool to find stolen photos even if they've been cropped etc.....


Regards,
Krishley.G.D.Purmanun
The way I see it, you can either work for a living or you can fly airplanes. Me, I'd rather fly.
 
Dazed767
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:12 pm

Haha I just tried one URL, should be fun to try the other photos.
 
66chargerfan
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:47 am

thats not fair at all
 
Flyingfox27
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:48 am

Wouldnt it be cool if accepted a.net shots can be turned into a red stripe ot something when copied and saved onto a computer? a bit like banknotes or something like that to prevent it happening.
 
GST
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:30 am

Quoting Flyingfox27 (Reply 14):

Then you would have to change the rule in t&c's allowing people to use photos as desktop backgrounds, but yes, something like that would help (but still not stop people taking screen prints and cropping out the browser).
 
P38Ace
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:19 am

What if you could only use the pics as a background option if you donated to the site. "First Class member"
I am a programmer and I am working on a script to see if i can do something like that. If you were a member then and only then could you use that copy to desktop option.
 
pilotealpha
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:41 am

Quoting P38Ace (Reply 16):
What if you could only use the pics as a background option if you donated to the site. "First Class member"
I am a programmer and I am working on a script to see if i can do something like that. If you were a member then and only then could you use that copy to desktop option.

Frankly thats not a good solution. Airliners.net is all about sharing. If you ask visitors to start paying, there'll be a huge drop in traffic plus many many photographers will stop uploading photos here. The system is good as it is now. Ok, for a moment lets assume people are willing to pay. How much will you charge? $25 - $50 per month. Just imagine the guy who like to steal photos here, he will not mind paying this fee since this will enable him to get access to thousands and thousands of photos he can use. So you are returning back to the start line.

The script you are talking about will not work. Have you seen those websites where a message box is displayed telling you that "right click is disabled", when you right click on an image? There the whole menu itself is not visible but that does not mean you cannot get the photo found on that page. You can use a screencapture software or save the page to your PC and you'll get the photo.

Its impossible to prevent photo theft. The only thing we can do is try to reduce it and the best way to do this is to make visitors aware of the rules here, which unfortunately many don't know. I've already mentionned a way to do this in one of my previous post.

Regards,   
Krishley.G.D.Purmanun
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P38Ace
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:52 am

That makes complete since. I didnt think about that screen print option.
 
stevemchey
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RE: A.net Pics Hosted On Flickr

Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:10 pm

There will never be a way to disable saving an image to your computer. As long as you can see an image of a certain size on your screen, you can get a copy for yourself. And screen capture is the most complex way to achieve this.

Think about it. All "right click disabling scripts" are done in JavaScript. All you need to do is disable JS on your browser. Or go and "View Source" and find the HTML image tag and copy the source string into a new browser window. Of course, if you have Firebug installed, this is even easier.

The simple fact of the web is: If you see text, images, sounds or video in your browser, you already have been given a copy of the data.

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