damien846
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Motive Rejections....(Motive Only) Suggestion?

Sat May 29, 2010 3:41 pm

Hello All,
So have had a couple of “Motive Only” rejections recently. And have had to appeal them, as I want to find out why?
First one was rejected again, “Motive Only”, so I had to use the “Photography Feedback forum” to find out why. And thankfully a couple of screeners took the time to tell me why, so I understood why that shot was rejected.
The second one today was rejected for “Motive Only” and again I appealed, asking why? And the Head Screener thankfully told me what the issue was. (I have re-cropped and uploaded if you want to have a look?)


So my suggestion is, if a photo is rejected for Motive. And I mean Motive Only. Then perhaps to help us photographers who are trying something different/creative, the screeners could tell us my? The personal comments make a big difference to the rejection. (Well for me anyway), to understand why they have been rejected.
Just to clarify I don’t have an issue with the rejections (once I understand why). I’m still very green at this and want to improve my photography/editing skills. So welcome rejection’s. Rejections with personal comments always help.
Just an idea.
Cheers Damien
 
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RE: Motive Rejections....(Motive Only) Suggestion?

Sat May 29, 2010 6:06 pm

Been discussed before and unless you want a queue of 15k and up they can't take the time to explain every motive rejection while screening.
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RE: Motive Rejections....(Motive Only) Suggestion?

Sat May 29, 2010 8:00 pm

Perhaps the reason in this case should be specified as 'sorry, the screeners didn't like your photo'.
There are no clear rules describing acceptable motive and looking at the photos accepted/rejected makes the issue even more complicated. Luckily we don't need to worry about acceptance ratios anymore and if you really like one of your shots and it just wouldn't go through the screening here you can always share it on another site.
I like creative shots very much, they always give me more inspiration and motivation than regular photos.
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RE: Motive Rejections....(Motive Only) Suggestion?

Sat May 29, 2010 10:45 pm

Quoting ghajdufi (Reply 2):
'sorry, the screeners didn't like your photo'.

Sometimes, but in many cases any experiended A.net photographer would be able to tell why the photo was rejected.

Actually, I think there are too few motive rejections lately, because I'm seeing some pretty weird and unaesthetic compositions/crops that I'm sure would not have been accepted a couple of years ago. I'd like to start a thread about it, except that posting examples would not be very nice.

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RE: Motive Rejections....(Motive Only) Suggestion?

Sun May 30, 2010 12:32 am

Hi Damien,

When I reject a photo for certain 'subjective' categories, I always make sure to include some comments for clarification. These categories include color, contrast, level, and of course motive.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 1):
Been discussed before and unless you want a queue of 15k and up they can't take the time to explain every motive rejection while screening.

Yes it does take a little more time to inculde the personal comments, but my view is include the small note for things that can be corrected easily, lest the correction (for something like color or level) not be in the right direction. If not, then even more time will be wasted having to screen a re-upload that has no improvement or is worse than the original (this happens often).

For self-explanatory categories like soft or grainy I don't leave comments as often, but sometimes point out a specific area where it is most noticeable.

We know that photographers much prefer to receive a personal note with the rejection, and try to do so as much as possible, especially with those categories where it might not be crystal clear how the issue should be addressed.

Damien, for your original question about your motive rejection, if it had been me, I would have been sure to have included a brief note about the crop being the issue.

Dana

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