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Is It Official? Remark Responsible For More Views?

Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:48 pm

Can a remark really catapult you to the top of 24 hours?


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"This angle shows the escape pod doors."

The shot is clean and was taken by one of the best on the site. But the comment is a bit over the top, unless you believe everything in the movie "Air Force One" was real.  

Kinda reminds me of this thread:

Yes, I Know It's Not Really A Winglet! (by Bigphilnyc Jun 24 2004 in Aviation Photography)
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:55 pm

What, we're not allowed to have cheeky comments anymore?  
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:14 pm

Quoting dvincent (Reply 1):
What, we're not allowed to have cheeky comments anymore?

haha!

We have a running joke here in Nashville. One of our photographers got a shot of Air Force One departing BNA with the Air National Guard hangar in the background. In the comment box, the photographer stated "check out the sniper" that was standing on the roof of the hangar, and the photo garnered a crap-load of views. So every time we photograph AF1, we joke about adding the comment "check out the sniper!" in hopes of attaining thousands of extra views! (not that he didn't deserve every single one of those views)  
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:49 pm

I knew the cycle was coming around for another "Photogs getting on the homepage conspiracy" threads. Come on this is getting old. You know full well any AF1 shot gets a ton of hits. I doubt it would be any different if this shot was uploaded without a comment.
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:20 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 3):
Come on this is getting old. You know full well any AF1 shot gets a ton of hits. I doubt it would be any different if this shot was uploaded without a comment.

You're right. Comments do not contribute to the number of views one gets. Every shot of Air Force One for the past 3 years has skyrocketed to the top. Every shot of Air Force One has over 10k views.

What was I thinking?
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Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:46 pm

Quoting unattendedbag (Reply 4):
You're right. Comments do not contribute to the number of views one gets. Every shot of Air Force One for the past 3 years has skyrocketed to the top. Every shot of Air Force One has over 10k views.

Looking over the uploads of AF1 I see shots that got no hits with a long comment and a lot of hits with no comment. I mean if your trying to infer that a comment automatically means hits I think your reaching. I think the fact that it's AF1 at BFI and Royal as the photog had more to do than to the comment.

Quoting unattendedbag (Reply 4):
What was I thinking?

I would assume to slag another photog who usually gets shot on the home page but I don't want to assume now.   
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:32 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 3):
I doubt it would be any different if this shot was uploaded without a comment.

Well it would, because the comments do give you more hits/views - since you give people more information to search on. You make your image more visible to those people who are searching for anything related to that.

I put 777 panning D700 in google search, and one of my images was returned as top result:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Emirates/Boeing-777-36N-ER/1637971/M/

So it works, even with relatively mundane comments like camera info/data.
 
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:01 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 5):
Looking over the uploads of AF1 I see shots that got no hits with a long comment and a lot of hits with no comment. I mean if your trying to infer that a comment automatically means hits I think your reaching.

I have no problem with comments, even comments that may increase views. But I'm not in favor of fallacious comments that require the viewer to open the large image. I think this comment has lead to increased views.

just my opinion, does anyone else share it, maybe, maybe not? who knows.
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:28 am

Quoting unattendedbag (Reply 7):
I have no problem with comments, even comments that may increase views. But I'm not in favor of fallacious comments that require the viewer to open the large image. I think this comment has lead to increased views.

You may be right seeing the escapde pod thing is a myth and doesn't really exist. I can't see Royal doing things like this to get views since he gets them rather easily otherwise but if you insist on confronting photogs haven't you been told that it is the proper course to email the head screeners and not slag them in the open forum here?
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:54 am

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
I can't see Royal doing things like this to get views since he gets them rather easily otherwise

I can't either, his work stands alone.

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
but if you insist on confronting photogs haven't you been told that it is the proper course to email the head screeners and not slag them in the open forum here?

I'm not downing a photographers skills. I'm not questioning a photo that is obviously flawed that got past the screeners. I am questioning a remark that he made. A simple comment. If a photographer or viewer can accept my opinion on a comment that he/she left on a photo, then I don't know what to say.

Regarding my opinion posting in the forum: when I feel that something may benefit the community, I post it. If it is an isolated type event that has no bearing on the community, then I send an email.

I feel what should be acceptable as a remark is open for debate among the photographers and the screeners.

The remark has sparked some comments from viewers as to its legitimacy. That's great! But I know many people refer to this site as a factual, no-nonsense aviation database. Does that comment fit in? Some people get it, some don't.
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:20 am

The comment was tongue in cheek. While spotting AF1 that day we overheard some people discussing the merits of the built-in escape pod, which of course we laughed about after. I haven't seen this movie, but a quick check of Wikipedia brought me up to speed. Must be a good movie if President Clinton watched it twice  Wonder if there are any cigar scenes?

Anyways - the comment wasn't about hits. It was about having fun, just like all of the stuff I upload. If I was worried about hits I would upload the 787 backlog I have, or the 777 and 787 production facility shots I am sitting on, or the two hotties french kissing at Maho with Air France overhead.   
 
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:34 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 10):
I haven't seen this movie,

 Wow! That is truly shocking!  Wow!

Not having seen the movie  Wow! I can see it was meant as an innocent joke.

I thought everyone around here had seen that movie, at least 10 times!
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:37 am

I've never seen Titanic, either 
 
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:09 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 10):
or the two hotties french kissing at Maho with Air France overhead.

Where is that "This thread is useless without pictures" GIF when you really need it?
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:58 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 10):
Anyways - the comment wasn't about hits. It was about having fun, just like all of the stuff I upload. If I was worried about hits I would upload the 787 backlog I have, or the 777 and 787 production facility shots I am sitting on, or the two hotties french kissing at Maho with Air France overhead.

Kewl, we need the thread "People camping out at BFI to shoot the 787"   
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:05 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 10):
or the two hotties french kissing at Maho with Air France overhead.   

Please upload...somewhere.......
 
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:12 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 12):
I've never seen Titanic, either

Don't bother. It's rubbish.
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:12 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 12):
I've never seen Titanic, either

Someone told me how it ended, so I didn't bother.
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Quoting clickhappy (Reply 12):
I've never seen Titanic, either

So I am not the only one who successfully refused to watch it... 
Quoting clickhappy (Reply 10):
the two hotties french kissing at Maho with Air France overhead.

Pics    or it never happened    ... 
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:02 am

Quoting stealthz (Reply 13):
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:49 am

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 10):
the comment wasn't about hits. It was about having fun

When we can no longer have fun on this site, I'm outta here.
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Quoting clickhappy (Reply 10):
or the two hotties french kissing at Maho with Air France overhead.

You can joke about anything you want... but please, not with this! PICS NOW!
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:13 pm

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 8):
I can't see Royal doing things like this to get views since he gets them rather easily here?

A screener shooting new ac and new liveries is always gonna draw views, don't be mistaken thinking otherwise. That's taking nothing away from Royal however, just fact.
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Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:49 pm

Can't believe some posts this thread. Seems that sense of humor is getting kinda scarce around this forum.

Great remark, Royal. I laughed... If it draw more hits, so be it.

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I've never seen Titanic, either

It sinks.
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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 24):
It sinks.

Oh THANKS BUDDY. I'm going to watch Pearl Harbour. I suppose you can tell me what happens in that one too?
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:33 am

Quoting sulman (Reply 25):
Pearl Harbour

Perhaps you mean "Pearl Harbor"?

If so, don't bother - it's another awfully bad movie.

Watch "Tora Tora Tora!" instead.
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Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:51 am

If you guys want to see a real good aircraft movie, go watch "Sky Fighters"; it's a French movie ( "Les Chevaliers du ciel") from 2005 and features some of the very best aerial filming ever and the best is, it's all been shot real life; no computer animations!!

A real must-see for any aviation enthusiast!

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Quoting ThierryD (Reply 27):
A real must-see for any aviation enthusiast!

Absolutely!

It's a great movie!
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Quoting sulman (Reply 25):
Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 24):
It sinks.

Oh THANKS BUDDY. I'm going to watch Pearl Harbour. I suppose you can tell me what happens in that one too?

I thought you knew?
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Quoting clickhappy (Reply 10):
I haven't seen this movie, but a quick check of Wikipedia brought me up to speed.

dude, you need to get out less.
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:38 am

+1 hit from me due to the comment! I'm ignorant OK...I really wanted to see those escape pod doors
Wondered why I didn't notice them and went to my own AF1 shot to check, doh doh   
But I laughed a lot when my stupidity dawned upon me...

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