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A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:08 pm

The A380 and A400M have been confirmed for flying on Saturday the 18th September at the Battle of Britain Airshow at Cotswold Airport (Kemble). Tickets are cheap- so all you South West UK peeps- get down there!

http://www.battleofbritainweekend.com/
http://www.cotswoldairport.com/
 
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:55 am

I guess I'll be going, then.  

I must be the only A.netter NOT to have seen an A380 yet. I have pretty much guaranteed it will now cancel at the last minute. It is a pity that the viewing area is on the North side as it limits the photographic possibilities, but that's ok, it's always well worth a trip to Kemble, sorry Cotwsold Airfield  . I've not been to the Battle of Britain show there before but it sounds like a nice event, smaller than the main annual airshow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-11148527

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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:17 am

Is this because the A380 was due to appear at Filton Families Day on the same day...?
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:30 am

Yeah I think so! The filton day has got the Beluga as well, so I'm a bit undecided as to which one to go to!
 
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:53 pm

What has the A380 got to do with the BoB???
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:04 am

Quoting hotplane (Reply 4):
What has the A380 got to do with the BoB???

Absolutely nothing but as it'll be in the area anyway it is an added attraction to bring people in, and shows the vast progress we have made in aircraft design since World War II.
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:28 am

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 5):
, and shows the vast progress we have made in aircraft design since World War II.

Who is "we"?

Are you an aircraft designer?
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:51 pm

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 5):
and shows the vast progress we have made in aircraft design since World War II.

Actually we haven't
Pressurised passenger planes were a reasonably well understood technology in 1945, the only real progress made since then has been in size, powerplant reliability and communications!
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:55 pm

Quoting stealthz (Reply 8):
the only real progress made since then has been in size, powerplant reliability and communications!

And the use of lighter and stronger materials, such as carbon fibre.
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:01 pm

When I saw this post, at first I thought that the A380 is going to be involved in some sort of a dogfight with the Hurricanes and Spitfires  

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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:04 am

Quoting stealthz (Reply 8):
Actually we haven't
Quoting stealthz (Reply 8):
the only real progress made since then has been in size, powerplant reliability and communications!
Quoting viv (Reply 9):
And the use of lighter and stronger materials, such as carbon fibre.

Of course... how stupid of me, that's not progress at all is it...(!)            

Quoting viv (Reply 7):
Who is "we"?

Are you an aircraft designer?

No, but last time I checked I was still a human... and as a human race we have come on leaps and bounds from the humble Spitfire to Concorde to A380's and other modern airliners... To me that's progress, right?
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:20 pm

Unfortunately I couldn't get to the show, but I saw the A380 fly over my house!
 
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:05 pm

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 11):
the humble Spitfire

Hardly humble. In its day, it was cutting-edge technology.

Its only weak point was the Merlin's lack of fuel injection.

Arguably, it represented a greater advance over its biplane predecessors than the A380 does over the Boeing 747.

So, how much progress have "we" really made?

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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:22 pm

Quoting viv (Reply 13):

Why do you pick out everything I say for criticism?!

Are you seriously saying that there has been absolutely no progress in aircraft designs since WW2? That's all I was saying, is that to me there has been...
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:39 pm

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 14):
Are you seriously saying that there has been absolutely no progress in aircraft designs since WW2?

Please read my posts again. I NEVER said there has been no progress. I do believe, however, that more progress in aircraft development was made in 1914 - 1945 than in 1945 - 1975.

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 14):
Why do you pick out everything I say for criticism?!

I do not. I was merely engaging in an interesting debate.

We could also discuss Concorde, as an example of aircraft development. It was a significant technological achievement and an aesthetically pleasing aircraft. Nevertheless, only two airlines operated the aircraft, no other airlines ordered it. The two state airlines concerned had their arms twisted by their respective governments and were sold the aircraft at a giveaway price. Even with that, the aircraft made only an operating profit during its life, i.e. it covered its operating costs but no more than that.

It was banned from most prospective routes because of the noise problem.

The 1973 oil crisis and resultant rises in fuel prices meant that the aircraft become horrendously expensive to operate, particularly in view of its relatively limited passenger capacity, so that it was uncompetitive in economic terms with other airliners.

It is significant that no aircraft producer has come forward with a second-generation supersonic airliner. Not because of technological difficulty, but because of market and environmental factors.
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:21 pm

Quoting viv (Reply 15):
We could also discuss Concorde

Ah... I remember you now... we used to a lot and disagreed on that subject a lot too.

Quoting viv (Reply 15):
No other airlines ordered it. The two state airlines concerned had their arms twisted by their respective governments and were sold the aircraft at a giveaway price.

Not quite... Plenty of airlines ordered Concorde... however all of them cancelled. And both airlines paid full price for 5 of their Concordes and when the remaining 2 on each side of the channel were left unsold, they were then handed over for the symbolic "giveaway price". So while I can see what you're getting at, you weren't quite right with what you said.

Back to the topic before though....

Quoting viv (Reply 15):
Please read my posts again. I NEVER said there has been no progress.

My apologies, you're quite right, you never actually said that. So would you agree with me when I said that "we" have come a fair way with aircraft development since the 1940's? This is what I was getting at originally when people decided to debate that....
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:09 am

Quoting EGTESkyGod (Reply 15):
"we" have come a fair way with aircraft development since the 1940's?

I agree, of course. However, the word you used was "vast", not "fair". This is why I said:

Quoting viv (Reply 14):
more progress in aircraft development was made in 1914 - 1945 than in 1945 - 1975.
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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:17 am

Hi all

Back to the original topic................anyone get any pics of the A380?

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RE: A380 Confirmed For Battle Of Britain Show

Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:37 am

Quoting granite (Reply 17):
Hi all

Back to the original topic................anyone get any pics of the A380?

I did- but its not a net quality- its when it flew over my house! It'll be on my flickr in the next few days....

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