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Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:00 pm

Hello All.

Further to this recent thread (now archived), I was passing the area today so went to have a look.

The car park mentioned has now been completed and populated with cars and, contrary to some speculation, it does look as though much of the permissive path has been closed. So there is no access now up to the old fence area. In fact, the car park stretches off to the right, where people used to congregate. In short the whole landscape of the area has been transformed. As of today there was still a mound of rubble to clamber up, but this looks to be very temporary. Whether or not it remains, photos from the whole area are now completely compromised by the addition of numerous lighting pylons for the car park, so photos such as this are now a thing of the past:

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I didn't have my camera with me to test things, but it looked to me you would almost be guaranteed to get a pylon or two in the way for any kind of motive/panning shot - even if on top of a mound of rubble. Life goes on. I am glad I spent a little time there a month or so ago.

All the best.

Paul
 
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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:08 am

Paul,

I've not tried it myself but I believe the footpath now exists between the perimeter fence and car park. There is certainly what appears to be a path there; presumably accessible from somewhere near the fire trainer.

I'll have a scout hopefully this week (if they go back to the 23s that is). If it is bad news I'll just be taking my ladders into the car park and setting up where I see fit. **** 'em!

Karl
 
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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:47 am

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 1):
There is certainly what appears to be a path there

Hello Karl.

Well if there is it certainly is not accessible via the 'usual' route through the field. There are now fences up which say it is a construction site (that's the bit in front of the new car park) and that the previous permissive path has been withdrawn. Any issues contact MAG.

But, as I say, it is those pylons that now create a separate issue. I guess you could theoretically get in front of those by being right up against the fence, but then the lens requirements may be different from the past, plus my guess is it may now be trespass. I am not up on these things, but all I can say is that, as a spot to enjoy a couple of hours photography, it is not for me any longer.

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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Sun Jun 05, 2011 8:29 am

Thanks for the update Paul. It's such a shame we've lost that spot (as first feared) as it was one of the better ones. The price of progress I suppose   

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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:43 pm

I will get on to Cheshire East council again as I was assured they could not shut the path permanently. Perhaps the council don't know, much like they didn't know about the car park in the first place?

If left unchallenged the airport will become a law unto itself.

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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:44 pm

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 1):
There is certainly what appears to be a path there; presumably accessible from somewhere near the fire trainer.

It seemed to be like that when I parked up next to the new fencing by the side of the fire trainer a few weeks ago and I did see a couple of people walking between the perimeter fence and car park when I was stood on the mound (bottom of pic, and hopefully not betraying any confidences)



I presume the chickenwire fence is going to be replaced by the more photographer unfriendly version that's gone up elsewhere.

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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:50 pm

I haven't been to this spot since I was a kid about 15 years ago. I was going to have a trip there this summer but I might not bother now and just do LHR instead.


It's such a shame that in the UK spotters are not taken in to account one little bit. Having been to Switzerland, the Netherlands, Germany etc where the facilities for spotters are excellent it really annoys me what happens here. Mass protest anyone lol!

Andy S

PS - I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the mounds by 27 at EMA are built on as well.
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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:54 pm

Don't worry, the footpath is still there. You'll just need to take some steps along. In fact you are now probably closer than ever.

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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:27 am

So looking at the photo were those two people are standing between the two fences is ok to spot from then ? And the entry is further down Moss Lane after the s-bend on the straight part of the road ?

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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:57 pm

Quoting Ian777 (Reply 8):
So looking at the photo were those two people are standing between the two fences is ok to spot from then ? And the entry is further down Moss Lane after the s-bend on the straight part of the road ?

I wasn't aware of any path there, but if that is the one to which Karl refers then I don't fancy his chances if he takes his step ladders there to point the lens over the fence   . I too have heard about larger fences going up around the airport, so I really can't see any legitimate way that there could be photo opportunities from this spot as we were used to.

Cheers.

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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:07 pm

To put things into perspective, even without this particular vantage point, Manchester is still streets ahead of most UK airports as far as spectators are concerned. Where else has a dedicated viewing park and access down large proportions of the runways. Yes, the loss of this place is annoying but no more than that. There are plenty of other places to go.

Quoting EMA747 (Reply 6):
It's such a shame that in the UK spotters are not taken in to account one little bit. Having been to Switzerland, the Netherlands, Germany etc where the facilities for spotters are excellent it really annoys me what happens here. Mass protest anyone lol!

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RE: Manchester - 'Joe's Field' - Update

Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:29 pm

Quoting Psych (Reply 9):
I don't fancy his chances if he takes his step ladders there to point the lens over the fence

I don't see how they can do much about it. It's not illegal to erect a set of ladders on a public footpath so as long as I'm a sufficient distance from the fence there shouldn't be a problem.

Of course when the new fence eventually goes up I'll invest in bigger ladders!

Karl

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