HarryImp
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Airshow Statics

Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:35 pm

Hi all,

Am going to RIAT on Saturday and should have my first DSLR -20D. But will only have 18-55 lens by then so statics is all i will get. Isnt it?

But can someone give any tips please, on the settings i will need for statics (and flying if there is any chance of getting a shot) , AV or TV etc shutter speed/ iso and all that lot and how wthese would change with carying conditions?This would be HUGELY appreciated.


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derekf
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RE: Airshow Statics

Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:26 pm

Some tips from an airshow veteran  

Get there early or stay late. The crowds might be a bit less then.
Try and avoid the dreaded RIAT blue traffic cones - best of luck with that one!
I use at least f8 or f11 to try and avoid any DoF issues.
I use ISO200 all the time unless it is particularly bright then I might I go to ISO100
I try and avoid 18mm (unless for effect) as it can distort a little too much.
Try not to swear at those who spend ages examining in close detail the nose of the aircraft you want to shoot.

An 18-55mm will probably be limited to ground shots I think. The Red Arrows and the Frecce Tricolori should fill the frame at some point with 55mm maybe?

Lastly, enjoy and don't be frightened to experiment.

Hope this helps
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RE: Airshow Statics

Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:16 am

No problem - glad to be able to help  
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RE: Airshow Statics

Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:12 pm

Quoting derekf (Reply 1):
Get there early or stay late.

Or both!

Quoting derekf (Reply 1):
I use at least f8 or f11 to try and avoid any DoF issues.
I use ISO200 all the time unless it is particularly bright then I might I go to ISO100

Me too, and having the 18-55 with IS helps as well.

For anyone who gets stuck on the day over settings, setting the Av to f8 and letting the camera do the rest is a good 'panic mode' setting if you really don't know what settings to use. As Derek says, I would use ISO 100 if sunny, else 200 if cloudy or even 400 or lower if really heavy cloud is expected. Don't worry about shutter speed for statics, the f number is more important.

Quoting derekf (Reply 1):
I try and avoid 18mm (unless for effect) as it can distort a little too much.

Gives me a lot of level rejections - I'm just not very good at getting the left and right sides 100% balanced.

Quoting derekf (Reply 1):
Try not to swear at those who spend ages examining in close detail the nose of the aircraft you want to shoot.

Indeed. They paid their money too and who knows why they want to look up close? Maybe they are modellers looking at fine details. Sometimes people want to get their photo taken up close with their favourite aircraft. It's not a crime!

They could even be A.netters trying to keep the cones and ropes out of the shot  

Best regards,

Jim
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RE: Airshow Statics

Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:33 pm

Quoting derekf (Reply 1):
An 18-55mm will probably be limited to ground shots I think. The Red Arrows and the Frecce Tricolori should fill the frame at some point with 55mm maybe?

I can talk about Frecce Tricolori only... by the time I'm Italian, I've had the chance to see Frecce Tricolori several times.
But, to be honest, most of the time I used my 70-200 to take pictures so, maybe, the comparison wouldn't be so trustable... but I have to say that during some "smoky passages" I used the tele at its minimum focal (70mm).
A sample image:

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This one was taken at 70mm, with a small crop... so, this can give you the idea of what you're going to cope with.
But I was close to the display line...  

If you won't be able to take a shot like this, you should get the focal lower and try to get a good composition!  
For example: Frecce Tricolori will perform a smoky final passage like the one posted above. But the latter is the "close" perspective... but you can either capture the whole scene.
I mean: they'll pass over you from left to right (usually they do this way), thus creating a sort of three-coloured curve in the sky. Then, wait that they pass over you and get a little more on the right, and take a shot, then!
I don't know if it will be something acceptable for this site, but it will be a very good picture to keep in your personal archive!!!  

I told you this just to give you an idea for taking good shots with you current equipment... and, of course, this way could be done with other display teams, on condition that smokes make a good contrast with the sky!  

Finally... HAVE FUN!!!!!

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