ThomasWarloe
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LAX Questions And Flight Identification Help

Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:26 am

Hello everyone,

I'm thinking about taking a trip down to LAX soon, and given where the light is at this time of year, I'll probably be shooting from the In-n-Out. I was wondering if it was possible to get more side on type pictures; normally during the winter I'll just walk down the narrow grassy strip by Sepulveda to do this, as there aren't that many buildings in the way due to the parking lot behind the fence. When you take pictures at In-n-Out, the planes tend to be more right above you than side on; you see more of the bottom of the plane. Is it possible to get good side on shots by walking in the opposite direction along Sepulveda; will the buildings be a problem or are they low enough? Or is there some alternate place? I've always wondered whether it would be possible to take shots from the top of The Parking Spot car building right next to In-n-Out; has anyone tried this? I'm specifically interested in where these shots were taken; the top of the Parking Spot building is the only plausible place that I can think of:


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Also, I plan on doing some photography from the Lincoln overpass place too


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Is my 70-200mm on my Canon 450D long enough for this? I was really only planning on trying to shoot the larger planes, 777s, 747s, A346, etc. Would 200mm work for these? Also, what time would be a good one to head down there in order to minimize the heat haze?

And for anyone who's been down there lately, how is the weather? Will I be able to get some nice sunset shots, or will the marine layer ruin it? Is it a bit hazy there now?

And one final question; I saw this Philippine Airlines B744 on one of the LAX webcams, and as far as I know, those flights tend to land from 7-9 p.m. Was this just special, or delayed?



Thanks!

-Thomas
 
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RE: LAX Questions And Flight Identification Help

Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:58 am

The Robert Brady and Phil Hyde photos were likely taken from the Westchester Pkwy bridge over Lincoln Blvd here:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=LAX&hl....564699,81.650391&vpsrc=6&t=h&z=17

Looks to be between ~1500 and 2500 feet from there to the typical touchdown area (between the 1000 and 2000 foot markers). I don't have a 200, but I think it would be a stretch for it, if you wanted touchdown shots.

I don't know where the other photo was taken from, but does indeed look like the Parking Spot. There are signs up there prohibiting photography, but I don't know how rigidly they police it.

Here's a couple photos I have in the queue taken from the In'n'Out park, to give you a sampler of what you could expect from there, and also the weather conditions this past Saturday:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...3393024.5017img_6451cs58-13-11.jpg
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...13122157.5909img_6263cs58-7-11.jpg

Personally, I like that angle, but others may not.  

Weather in the evenings is variable, but it's a good bet that the marine layer will be around. For example, I've been out to the In'n'Out 4 or 5 times in the last two months. One time I got some great sunset light with vortices and condensation, twice I got crappy sunset light with not many usable shots, and then this past weekend I had the light that you see in those photos (aka not much marine layer at all).

Finally, I can't answer your Philippine Airlines questions. I've shot them (both 744s and A340s) taxiing on the south side in the evening, but I don't know if they were just arriving or what.
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RE: LAX Questions And Flight Identification Help

Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:08 am

Thanks for the help!

That's interesting; I thought that the British Airways B744 seemed kind of out of place for that location. I've been there before, but the weather was horrible; cloudy and rainy, so no good shots. It was too dark, and I used a different lens, so I wasn't really able to get much out of it as to seeing how it was and how shots from there would be.

So there are signs prohibiting photography on the Parking Spot building? Have you been up there?

One of my concerns with the 70-200 is that my shortest length is 70mm, so for some of the larger heavies I'm not sure whether I would be able to zoom out enough for them to fit in the frame, if you get what I mean. That's also why I was interested in seeing if there was anywhere down Sepulveda; the planes would be a bit further away and easier to fit into my lens.

Nice shots you've got there; really love the clarity! I don't mind the angle; I've shot at the In-n-Out before with a different lens; I just was interested in getting som solid side-on shots. Call me weird, but I like side on shots too!

Thanks!
-Thomas
 
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RE: LAX Questions And Flight Identification Help

Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:56 am

Quoting ThomasWarloe (Reply 2):
That's interesting; I thought that the British Airways B744 seemed kind of out of place for that location.

Well, I haven't photographed from there, but the angle does look about right. Could be somewhere near the bridge rather than on it.

Quoting ThomasWarloe (Reply 2):
So there are signs prohibiting photography on the Parking Spot building? Have you been up there?

There are signs, at least last time I was there. But that was a few years ago, before I started shooting. It was at an LAX A.net meetup, probably in 2007, and I was only up there for a few minutes.

Quoting ThomasWarloe (Reply 2):
One of my concerns with the 70-200 is that my shortest length is 70mm, so for some of the larger heavies I'm not sure whether I would be able to zoom out enough for them to fit in the frame, if you get what I mean. That's also why I was interested in seeing if there was anywhere down Sepulveda; the planes would be a bit further away and easier to fit into my lens.

From the In'n'Out, 70mm would indeed be too long for side-ons. Those photos of mine were taken with my 18-55.

I know I've seen shots from other people that were taken on the opposite side of the approach (south on Sepulveda), probably from the Sepulveda sidewalk. As for north....I think I've seen a couple Paul Paulsen shots that looked like they could be from Sepulveda to the north, but I'm not certain of that.

Quoting ThomasWarloe (Reply 2):
Nice shots you've got there; really love the clarity!

Thanks!

Quoting ThomasWarloe (Reply 2):
Call me weird, but I like side on shots too!

Weird.  
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RE: LAX Questions And Flight Identification Help

Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:54 pm

I looked on google maps and found the Carl E. Nielsen youth park; it's just a bit up from the 25's. Has anyone tried this place before? It's rather close and it appears that it would work, especially for my lens?

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