aksi333
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London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:31 pm

I plan to make the journey to Heathrow for planespotting. I am from Norway and need some adwise or somewone who is formilliar with heatrow to speak with...send me a E-Mail to...aksi171996@hotmail.no .... thank you
 
jwhite9185
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:28 pm

Myrtle Avenue is the best. Best way to get there is take the underground from the airport to Hatton Cross. Then walk along the A30 back towards the airport until you get to the field. This is only really any good if they are landing on 27L though.

As far as official on airport locations, there aren't any.
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spencer
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:10 pm

Myrtle park is not the best. It is one of about 7 or 8 spots for landings from the East, incl L and R. Others incl the Hatton bridge, Bedfont football ground (annual fee), the huts, the bend further round from the huts, the TDZs for 27L/R, the fence crossing point in front of the Cathedral and the bend with embankment on the Northern Peri Rd.
Then you have line ups for said runways.
Plenty of spots to choose from and these are only the ones for the 27s.
My favourite would be the hill by the Hilton at T4 for arrivals onto 27L. In winter light THIS is one of the best spots IMO.

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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:17 pm

There's also a pretty good spot to nail ILS approach shots, I've heard.  
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:26 pm

I have to agree with young Mr Wilmot, Myrtle Avenue is over rated.
The hill by T4 is one of the best spots for 27L arrivals during the winter months.


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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:38 pm

Quoting spencer (Reply 3):
There's also a pretty good spot to nail ILS approach shots, I've heard.
Spence

That's just a rumour. No substance to it at all.
 
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:01 pm

Haha good one Phil! Look at the difference in light on those two pics. Superior in yours, by far!! Winter light is marvelous isn't it!
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:24 pm

When people say Myrtle Avenue, what pattern are they talking about and how often is it used? I've been there, or at least to the general area, twice, and both times I was seeing takeoffs toward me that were pretty hard to shoot unless it was something really low like a heavy A340.

Also, where is the T4 embankment? I might might might have stumbled across it by accident a couple years ago but I'm not sure.

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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:54 pm

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 7):
Myrtle Avenue, what pattern are they talking about and how often is it used

Myrtle Avenue is the name of the road that leads into the park, (Myrtle Park we call it), whereby, when they're landing on 27L, normal approach shots can be had. You've got maybe a 5-10 second window from when they appear above the last house until they dip below the fence line/trees. It's a pretty good location if that's your thing and I'm not knocking it in any way.

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 7):
where is the T4 embankment?

If you carry on up the road towards T4, (Hatton Cross > Myrtle > T4), stay on the left (the Myrtle side) of the carriageway until you come to a junction where traffic can either continue straight (under a small tunnel) or veer off up to the left and in towards T4. On the bend as the come off they carriageway there's an embankment on the left, fairly large in size. Walk to the top of that and hey presto!
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:14 pm

I seem to be spending an awful lot of time at LHR lately (should be there again tomorrow) so have begun to look at alternative spots. Myrtle Avenue is a real 'no-no' for me as the aircraft are just too high there. I much prefer the little grass verge on the A30, almost opposite the end of Cains Lane, for 27L arrivals (although a ladder is recommended).

I remember in December 2007 Phil very kindly showed me a few alternative spots, however they required 300-400mm - lens power I just didn't have back then. Now armed with a 100-400, I'd love to try some of those spots; particularly the T4 embankment and the park off Shakespeare Road (?) from where you get those lovely 09R bank-outs.

Another I'd like to try is the crash gate where you can poke your lens through and get up close and personal with aircraft leaving T4 for departure. I'm just a little concerned about police resistance? Are you okay if you linger on the opposite side and only rush over when you see something?

Are there any other spots around the perimeter where you can use similar locks in crash gates, etc.?

Finally, what is the best spot for 09R arrivals (I know they're few and far between)? So far I've managed to locate this spot, which I think is bloody good, but if there's better...

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...4.8816s2-afp_lhr_150112_kn_300.jpg

Cheers,

Karl

P.S. If anyone's going to be around tomorrow I should be somewhere on said grass verge on the A30.....
 
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:31 pm

I think that's at the end of Shakespeare Avenue Karl. I'll have to try that out myself sometime!
 
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:45 pm

Quoting jaktrax (Reply 9):
Another I'd like to try is the crash gate where you can poke your lens through and get up close and personal with aircraft leaving T4 for departure.

Karl, PLEASE don't use the crash gate, PLEASE!!! We've been told both by the Police and BAA officials that it's off limits and if we want any cooperation in the future then I tend to stay out of such areas. I believe there's notice around there that it's a restricted area too.
End of the day, do what you want but you'd bugger it up for others near the fence etc IMO.
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:03 pm

I'm not one to do anything to jeopardise the future of the hobby, so I won't bother with the gate by T4. However I have seen similar shots so it seems there is an alternative? Think I've seen a few regulars' shots so it's possibly less of a security worry?

I know people at LHR who have been openly reluctant in the past to share info with us 'out of the area' folks, so it's not altogether surprising that trouble brews between police and 'out-of-towners'. If we know about the spots (and I thank the thread contributors so far for detailing a few) we've no reason to go snooping and get into trouble.

Karl
 
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:52 pm

Karl, as Spence says, please keep away from that area. If you move less than 100 yards from there, towards Hattoin Cross, you will get shots like these as aircraft taxi out from T4.


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I'm afraid I'm not around tomorrow as having spent yesterday and today there, my Mrs feels she deserves some time together.
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:22 pm

Made my first visit to Shakespeare Avenue last week. Much easier to park there then Myrtle Avenue! Very cold day, beautiful blue skies, heavies making some quite tight banking turns heading west. Really great. The only fly in the ointment was that all my shots turned out to be rubbish, way over exposed, and retaining very little detail. This was my first use of a D300s. I was using matrix metering, and the monitor, excellent thought it is, gave no real indication of the dire results that awaited me when I got home. Looks like I need to dial in a fair amount of exposure compensation before I go out again! I'm sure that my trusty D200 would have made a better job of it. My wife want's me to sell it, but no way, at least not until I've sorted out the D300s!
 
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:05 pm

Quoting AlexC (Reply 14):
Made my first visit to Shakespeare Avenue last week. Much easier to park there then Myrtle Avenue! Very cold day, beautiful blue skies, heavies making some quite tight banking turns heading west. Really great. The only fly in the ointment was that all my shots turned out to be rubbish, way over exposed, and retaining very little detail. This was my first use of a D300s. I was using matrix metering, and the monitor, excellent thought it is, gave no real indication of the dire results that awaited me when I got home. Looks like I need to dial in a fair amount of exposure compensation before I go out again! I'm sure that my trusty D200 would have made a better job of it. My wife want's me to sell it, but no way, at least not until I've sorted out the D300s!

Shame! None can be used from RAW?

This appears to be the new money spot! I must admit I was in two minds as to stay on the 09L embankment or head over for 09R departure bank shots 4 weeks ago. I was worried the soft end of the 70-300 would affect any results and I stayed on the embankment. Worked out well as arrival shots there was like shooting fish in a barrel! But I did see quite the departure banks from far, far away, some of the crews must be ex-military! The wing-flex looks amazing!

Hope to see more 09R departure shots appear. When the weather plays nice and in the right light, they are a real treat.
 
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RE: London Heathrow Spotting Tips Please?

Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:57 pm

Quoting jaktrax (Reply 9):
Another I'd like to try is the crash gate where you can poke your lens through and get up close and personal with aircraft leaving T4 for departure. I'm just a little concerned about police resistance? Are you okay if you linger on the opposite side and only rush over when you see something.

I know I'm reiterating what Spence has said but please do not go into the EDF (?) compound area. There is a security hut on the other side of the perimeter and the Police will be called. I know it's tempting when the gate is up but avoid.

Karl, Aski333, please send me a private email and I'm more than happy to help.

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