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Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:17 pm

Hi all,

I'm considering getting the Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II to use on my D700. Does anyone here use it / have experience with it? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on its performance (IQ and AF) with the two TCs: 1.4x II and 2x III.

Thanks,

Tony
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:56 pm

I do not have this lens but I recently considered this lens for my D700 also. I found both articles interesting to read:

http://bythom.com/nikkor-telephoto.htm

Not on a D700 but on a D300 (I think the D700 FX sensor is a little bit more forgiving than the DX sensor especially with TC's):

http://www.nikoncafe.com/vforums/showthread.php?t=323784

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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:51 pm

Hi,

Thanks for the links. I read Thom's site regularly, I'll check out the other one. For the record, there's also good analysis on the lens + TCs here:

http://mansurovs.com/nikon-300mm-f2-8-vr-ii-review

Tony
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:10 pm

Tony u traitor   
 
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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:00 am

Quoting vishaljo (Reply 3):
Tony u traitor

It was finally time to join the dark side.  

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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:41 am

Quoting vishaljo (Reply 3):
Tony u traitor

V man, it only took him one spotting session to see me with my 300+2x on a FF to make him want to buy the Nikon version  
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Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:48 am

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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:51 am

Quoting RonS (Reply 5):
it only took him one spotting session to see me with my 300+2x on a FF to make him want to buy the Nikon version

Yeah, it looked beautiful and elegant.... wrapped in that black LensCoat it looked kinda, but not quite, the Nikon. Are you sure you don't have some secret desires you're not sharing with us?  
Quoting vishaljo (Reply 6):
Now where's my get-rich-quick marketing scheme

Helpline for Canon users who want to switch sides? I can help.  

But, let's now get back to the main topic of the thread...

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Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:26 am

Tony.................

If you're already reading Thom Hogan, you're already getting as good advice as is available, IMO

My only thoughts on the 300mm / 2.8.........it will definitely make your wallet a lot thinner !

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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:47 am

Hi Tony,

Based on my experience, the images with the 300 f/2.8 + 1.4x TC are similar to what a bare 500 f/4 VRII would produce in terms of sharpness and vignetting. I've used both the 1.7x and 2.0x TCs on the 300 f/2.8 VR and wasn't satisfied with the results.

Hope it helps,

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Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:22 pm

Quoting geezer (Reply 8):

My only thoughts on the 300mm / 2.8.........it will definitely make your wallet a lot thinner !

Damn, that's what it was... I was wondering why my bank account looked empty on Friday morning...

Quoting interstate (Reply 9):
Based on my experience, the images with the 300 f/2.8 + 1.4x TC are similar to what a bare 500 f/4 VRII would produce in terms of sharpness and vignetting. I've used both the 1.7x and 2.0x TCs on the 300 f/2.8 VR and wasn't satisfied with the results.

Hi Kavin, thanks for the feedback. Can you confirm that your experience was with the latest 2x TC (ver III)? I've read mixed reviews on it. I'm not expecting it to be near the 1.4x IQ (especially wide open). On the other hand, better ways to get near 600mm (say 400mm f2.8 + 1.4x, 500mm f4 + 1.4x, or 600mm f4) would be even more expensive, larger, and heavier. So, as long as I get more resolution with the 2x compared to 1.4x and cropping I would be OK with it. Anyway, I'm starting with just the 1.4x and I might rent the 2x at some point to do some testing with it.

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Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:29 am

You can't go wrong with the Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR...Even the older versions are the best optics Nikon has ever produced. Older versions were a bit slower and would not accept TC-ll,1.4. 2x converters pretty much crap out any lens, 1.4 is about it while still expecting excellent results. If you are shooting for a publication 1.7's and 2x's are fine as magazine quality these days is terrible. I had the 200-400VR and went back to the 2.8 300 prime. You just can't go wrong...the images are worth every penny.
 
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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:34 am

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 11):
Very few shots were good from using the 2x converter

Hi Chris, just curious: was it due to IQ or due to inaccurate AF?

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 12):
I had the 200-400VR and went back to the 2.8 300 prime.

I did consider the 200-400 but, apart from being more expensive, it's also 10% heavier and 50% longer than the 300mm 2.8. It also has the (well documented) attribute of its IQ degrading the further away you focus.

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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:14 pm

Quoting SNATH (Reply 13):
Hi Chris, just curious: was it due to IQ or due to inaccurate AF?

AF wasn't really an issue, it was the IQ. They were quite a bit softer. This was with the Mark 1 version of the AF-S 2x though
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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:09 pm

Hi Chris,

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 14):
AF wasn't really an issue, it was the IQ. They were quite a bit softer. This was with the Mark 1 version of the AF-S 2x though

Yeah, the mk III version of the 2x is supposed to be a big improvement over the previous versions (this is also the case for the Canon one too). When I get round to trying it I'll report back.

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RE: Nikon 300mm 2.8 VR II + 1.4x/2x TCs: Any Thoughts?

Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:09 pm

Hi I have some images was taken with a 300m f2.8 AF-s not the Mk 2 version with a tc-20eiii
its looks ok to me
I only got it at the end of last session so only managed one airshow
I do know that the tc-14e is practically invisible as far as image loss
try this link
http://s844.photobucket.com/albums/a...action=view&current=Duxford113.jpg
This site won't let me upload photos unless I pay !!!
Hope this helps

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