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Airport Spotting Location Pictures?

Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:26 pm

Hello All,

The photographers in Miami have begun a concerted effort to get an upgrade in the facilities around MIA that are available to aviation photographers and the local community. Our efforts have been with the support of the local politicians and we are now in an advance state of discussion with the upper management at MIA. Our talks have been quite successful -so far- and we are in a crucial stage of formulating policy and planning.

As part of our discussions, we are looking for pictures of spotting facilities at airports around the world, that can be used to determine what the final physical appearance, proximity and economics of the MIA location(s) would be.

These pictures will also allow the MIA facilities and planning team to determine what it takes to build a place that may incorporate one or more features in the world wide locations.

I would greatly appreciate if anyone is willing to share with us pictures that depict such locations at their home airports or at airports they have visited.

These pictures will be shared only with the MIA management. Please feel free to watermark them prominently with your name or website or any other information you see fit. We cannot offer you any money for your pictures except -perhaps- more improved facilities on your next trip here!  

If you know of such pictures online already, I would appreciate links to them as that will help get MIA to see them too.

For e.g. I am interested in pictures of the spotting hill at Munich. On my trip there a few years ago,i took pictures of the aircraft but not of the hill. This is where the Connie and Ju-52 is. While, we can can pull it up on Google maps, ground level photo(s) would enable views that would help in determining planning and construction etc.

You can either post link here or email me at:satapattuATgmail.com

Thank you,

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RE: Airport Spotting Location Pictures?

Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:52 pm

I wouldn't worry about payment Suresh - anyone expecting compensation for supplying photographs that could ultimately benefit the whole community needs their head examining!

We have recently had a 'refurb' at the RVP (Runway Viewing Park) at MAN. I've not seen it personally as yet but I'd be happy to take some photos when I next visit. Should be quite soon I imagine.

There is also the famous pub at the runway end. Not sure whether photos of that and its beer garden would be of any use?

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Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:07 pm

Quoting jaktrax (Reply 1):
We have recently had a 'refurb' at the RVP (Runway Viewing Park) at MAN. I've not seen it personally as yet but I'd be happy to take some photos when I next visit. Should be quite soon I imagine.

There is also the famous pub at the runway end. Not sure whether photos of that and its beer garden would be of any use?

Karl

Karl,

Thanks for your support.

Yes. I will take anything you got even the pub and beer garden. There is a restaurant that rents from MIA a bit of land (the 94th Aero Squadron), one of our efforts is to also reach out to them to improve facilities hence giving photographers a better vantage point while they get extra business hence your pictures of the pub will be helpful. We are attacking this problem from all angles  


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Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:32 pm

Suresh, I'm not trying to be funny, but it is ironic, that the other sites Accept spotting locations into their databases. If Anet accepted such photos (I don't believe they do) you could have just sent them a link to the wonderful spotting locations in our DB right here!
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:34 pm

Well, Miami with its "holes" provides me with just about everything I need! That said, here are some shots I've taken over the years of several other facilities. Some of these are indoor venues, and most were taken with my mobile phone camera with predictable quality. If these are useful, have at them. If you get much response to this it would be nice to have a repository of such pictures - we've talked about trying to get something like this going here in Hartford (BDL) and having some representative samples of other facilities would be useful.

Grand Rapids, MI
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/grr_1.jpg
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/grr_2.jpg
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/grr_3.jpg
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/grr_4.jpg

Fort Lauderdale
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/fll_1.jpg

Baltimore/Washington
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/bwi_1.jpg
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/bwi_2.jpg
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/bwi_3.jpg
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/bwi_4.jpg

Miami - maybe interesting for people in other areas...
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/mia_1.jpg
http://airshots.homestead.com/files/mia_2.jpg
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:22 pm

Quoting eksath (Thread starter):
For e.g. I am interested in pictures of the spotting hill at Munich. On my trip there a few years ago,i took pictures of the aircraft but not of the hill. This is where the Connie and Ju-52 is. While, we can can pull it up on Google maps, ground level photo(s) would enable views that would help in determining planning and construction etc.

That hill is quite a long way from the runway and is only decent for one direction of traffic. If planes are taking off towards you, they're way too high (unless it's an A343) to get decent photos of. But I suppose this website might help you a little: http://dreamspotter.canalblog.com/ar...nich__muc_eddm__germany/index.html


Of course, you can stretch it to the other extreme and take ZRH's new visitor terrace into account. That's one impressive state-of-the-art facility.
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RE: Airport Spotting Location Pictures?

Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:30 pm

Until I get some photos specifically depicting the public spotting/photography facilities at MAN, how about this one? Not the best for showing such facilities but it does show a portion of the Airport Hotel pub's beer garden at the end of MAN's 23R. It also shows the proximity to landing aircraft.


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RE: Airport Spotting Location Pictures?

Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:07 pm

Quoting RonS (Reply 3):
Suresh, I'm not trying to be funny, but it is ironic, that the other sites Accept spotting locations into their databases.

In this instance, it would have been valuable to have this info in one place for this purpose.

Quoting JohnJ (Reply 4):
Well, Miami with its "holes" provides me with just about everything I need! That said, here are some shots I've taken over the years of several other facilities. Some of these are indoor venues, and most were taken with my mobile phone camera with predictable quality. If these are useful, have at them. If you get much response to this it would be nice to have a repository of such pictures - we've talked about trying to get something like this going here in Hartford (BDL) and having some representative samples of other facilities would be useful.

John, we hope to do far better than "just" the holes at 12. I can gladly share with you the documentation we used to make this case and also the tact. Hopefully, our endeavor will lead to more legal places at MIA with more variety and better vantages. Thanks for your photos. I will probably be using all of them.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 5):
Of course, you can stretch it to the other extreme and take ZRH's new visitor terrace into account. That's one impressive state-of-the-art facility.

Thanks for the link. We have already bought the ZRH facility to the attention of MIA. One of our members provided us with a lot of detailed pictures of it from his recent trips there.

Quoting jaktrax (Reply 6):
Until I get some photos specifically depicting the public spotting/photography facilities at MAN, how about this one?

Karl..this is good too. However, I am also looking forward to the other views you mentioned. They will all be very helpful to us. Thanks again!
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 12:30 pm

I hope it's allright to link to a competing site, since Airliners.net doesn't have a spotting category.
http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?airline=Spotting%20Location
Here you can see spotting locations from all over the world, and a lot of them with google earth cordinates.

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:56 pm

Quoting jlunddk (Reply 8):
Here you can see spotting locations from all over the world, and a lot of them with google earth cordinates.

Jlund

Thanks. That info will be very helpful to the MIA photographers. "The project" will benefit from it! Thanks very much!
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:39 am

Having been to MIA once last year, I think the runway 9 and the "holes" over on 12 are fantastic locations! Will be going back over Easter weekend and am really looking forward to spending time at those locations. Will be nice to see what you guys get down in MIA. I have been trying to get something like that done at IAH for over a year now, but just keep getting the run around from the IAH management.
 
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:35 am

I've thought about this and wonder if one relatively cheap way to improve a spotting area would be to install a set of aluminum bleachers a little ways back from the border fences at an airport. It would give families a place to sit and watch planes for a bit and the photographers could stand at the top and hopefully have enough height to be able to shoot over the top of the fence. If places some distance back from the bench, the bleachers shouldn't be any kind of security risk.
 
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:28 am

Here's the viewing area at MKE.

That's my black Volkswagen in the lower-right corner. As you can see, the fence precludes an unobstructed view. I stand on the garbage can to reach over the fence.

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4052/4427940380_92c2ec693e_b.jpg
MKE Viewing Area 3 by 2H4, on Flickr

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MKE Viewing Area 2 by 2H4, on Flickr

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2716/4427935990_59671ebb47_b.jpg
MKE Viewing Area by 2H4, on Flickr

And here are a few shots from the viewing area:


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Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:33 pm

In this picture you can see (on the left side) a small part from one of the two hills in Munich:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA--...d=b2084342ba00dd9c8d6c1d4b3f8653c0
I will shoot both hills for you as soon as I´m at EDDM!

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Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:10 pm

Quoting arndt262 (Reply 13):
In this picture you can see (on the left side) a small part from one of the two hills in Munich:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA--...d=b2084342ba00dd9c8d6c1d4b3f8653c0
I will shoot both hills for you as soon as I´m at EDDM!

Arndt

Thanks a lot. This picture is helpful too. I am looking forward to anything else you can get of this area showing a wide view so that the MIA planning people can get an idea of what it looks like. Thanks in advance for your help!

Quoting andrew50 (Reply 10):
Having been to MIA once last year, I think the runway 9 and the "holes" over on 12 are fantastic locations! Will be going back over Easter weekend and am really looking forward to spending time at those locations. Will be nice to see what you guys get down in MIA.

Andrew - We are hoping for more access along 09 and also 27 and 30 operations views. The current 09 view is not an official place hence subject to the whims of the local authorities and the business owners. We would like something with an official stamp of approval with a high vantage point and parking. All this is up for consideration with MIA management currently - they have been very nice and we hope to move closer towards a definite plan in early april

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 12):
Here's the viewing area at MKE.

Thank you. I will include these pictures in our submission to MIA.
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RE: Airport Spotting Location Pictures?

Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:52 pm

Hey there,

here some photos of our great visitior platform at Düsseldorf Airport. We have two platforms, one on the roof of Terminal B and one is located over the railstation of the airport. I searched my whole hard drive, but I only found some overviews of the railstation-platform.

In the early morning it is great for some nightshots,but you have to be lucky to get a good shot! (the planes are moving most of the time)

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2839/img2342ga.jpg
By mariuspa at 2012-03-08

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3875/img2334c.jpg
By mariuspa at 2012-03-08

From this point you have a great view over the runway and the taxiways , nothing is blocking the view and you're close to the action.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9836/img6858ft.jpg
By mariuspa at 2012-03-08

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9021/img5533kopie.jpg
By mariuspa at 2012-03-08

..and you get many waves from the pilots too!  http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8421/img5823qm.jpg
By mariuspa at 2012-03-08

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8199/img5415o.jpg

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The spot is also good when runway 05R/L is in use:

Departure (05R)
http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/8035/img1624s.jpg
By mariuspa at 2012-03-08

Arrival (05L)
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/558/img1539d.jpg
By mariuspa at 2012-03-08


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RE: Airport Spotting Location Pictures?

Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:10 pm

Quoting eksath (Reply 14):
I am looking forward to anything else you can get of this area showing a wide view

Here is a link to Munich Airports website (you might find an english version of the site too). It is in German but you find two pictures that give you an impression:
http://www.munich-airport.de/de/cons.../erlebnis/besucherhuegel/index.jsp
And here is another link, also in German, but with pictures:
http://www.ganz-muenchen.de/freizeit...n/besucherpark/besucherhuegel.html
If you browse google for "besucherhuegel muenchen fotos" you might find some pictures too
And another link in German, but with pictures that enlarge (scroll down):
http://www.muenchenkabel.de/airportmuenchen/besucherpark.html

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Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:13 pm

And here is the link to Munich Airports website in english (about the visitor hill):
http://www.munich-airport.de/en/cons.../erlebnis/besucherhuegel/index.jsp

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Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting LH234 (Reply 15):
Hey there,

here some photos of our great visitior platform at Düsseldorf Airport. We have two platforms, one on the roof of Terminal B and one is located over the railstation of the airport. I searched my whole hard drive, but I only found some overviews of the railstation-platform.

In the early morning it is great for some nightshots,but you have to be lucky to get a good shot! (the planes are moving most of the time)

Thanks a lot. These show the proximity well.

Quoting arndt262 (Reply 16):
Here is a link to Munich Airports website (you might find an english version of the site too). It is in German but you find two pictures that give you an impression:

Thanks again! Greatly appreciate your help.
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Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:59 pm

Ah, just found another one from the Terminal-Platform!

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/7599/img0681q.jpg

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Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:41 am

Here's one I took last January during a trip to Stockholm. Spotters built it themselves and there is enough clearance between the spot and the fence that no-one can jump over it or anything.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2073152/Stockholm%20%2712/08-26spottingplace.jpg


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Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:56 pm

If you zoom in here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ix=teb&q...=1242&bih=743&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

You can see the Charlotte Overlook. Simple parking lots with benches. Very fun place though,
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:27 pm

Quoting LH234 (Reply 19):
Quoting airkas1 (Reply 20):
Spotters built it themselves and there is enough clearance between the spot and the fence that no-one can jump over it or anything.

Thanks guys!
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Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:45 pm

In Malta the aviation Authorities are very spotter friendly. They permitted the building of the platform shown here and have inserted reinforced holes in the chain link fences about 12" square at various points of interest around the airport. The platform is on the south side of runway 31/13 so the sun is behind you best part of the day.

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