|Quoting clickhappy (Reply 1):|
Do you really think an official from some place like Vozdvizhenka air base would be fooled simply because the location is marked as Withheld?
|Quoting noamen (Thread starter):|
I do not understand why do I have to risk going to jail for revealing something secret like the location of a IAF base?
|Quoting clickhappy (Reply 1):|
On a personal note, and not directed at you in any way, the whole "Withheld" thing is a bunch of nonsense. If people were uploading photos from places they should not be, as soon as they posted them on the Internet, their cover is blown.
|Quoting sovietjet (Reply 11):|
It is not that simple. Like someone mentioned before, sometimes the "higher brass" has a false sense of security and peace of mind when you don't disclose specific base information. This is normal in Russia, India, China, Iran, etc.. Is it silly? Sometimes. But it makes them happy, and when they're happy they let you on base and let you take photos. Would you rather not see the photos than see them with location "withheld"? If you see a Su-25 with reg "01 RED" would you know automatically where it was taken? Not necessarily. It could be at any Su-25 base, or at a deployment somewhere, or in transit, etc... and the people that take the photos may have been told not to disclose this information. In other cases, they may have been on base "unofficially" through a friend inside the base and that person doesn't want to get in trouble. I know I've been told to withhold location and dates in the past. In fact, I took photos of the first flying private Su-27 in the USA and was told I can only share the photo if I don't disclose the location and date. You can easily find it all in google, but I was told that I personally can't share it. So, should I burn my bridge with that contact and write all info on here just so you can have a complete database?
|Quoting JakTrax (Reply 12):|
What I find far more concerning is the fact that a lot of people here continue to hide the precise date of images of common aircraft shot at common civilian airports.
|Quoting dendrobatid (Reply 2):|
For this reason full dates are always preferred and they must be included for open events.
|Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 14):|
Is the reported date or Exif data used to determine doubles?
|Quoting dendrobatid (Reply 15):|
I think a lot of the time people do want to know the date, the information is important, at your local airport what day did you miss the subject etc and there is generally very little reason not to include it
|Quoting JakTrax (Reply 17):|
From what I understand this may be part of the problem. As I'm sure many of us will know there are those in this hobby who unfortunately deliberately withhold information purely out of spite, because they somehow feel they are the only ones 'entitled' to shoot something new or newsworthy. Other photographers are a threat, so by omitting the exact date it throws the potential 'threat' off the scent, so to speak
|Quoting noamen (Reply 5):|
1. As I mentioned earlier... I was the only non employee to get a clearance to photograph.
2. I understand that this site is a worldwide database, but it's not like I try to upload a civilian A/C, that's not the case here, I try to upload a military A/C that you all would not have a chance to see if I didn't agree with the IDF spokesman condition to not disclose certain details...
3. If this is a database, shouldn't it be an AIRCRAFT database and not DATE or LOCATION database? I mean that if the information is correct, and the photo is good why not trust my judjment what detailes I can or nan't give away?
|Quoting ckw (Reply 22):|
Not everyone remembers or bothers to set correct date and time on their camera.
|Quoting spotterke (Reply 23):|
Ok,date and time is not important to me,but if the other exif is available like shutter speeds etc..i could compare with my pictures and maybe learn something from it..
|Quoting JakTrax (Reply 9):|
Quoting mnazarinia (Reply 8):
Can you give me a good reason why one shouldn't disclose the precise day?
Um. Is that not what I just asked?
You tell me, because there are plenty of uploaders still omitting the exact day.
|Quoting seachaz (Reply 28):|
So true, I also find it humorous the first screener to respond to this thread consistently omits exact dates on his photos too - pot meet kettle.