Gunship01
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Most Rejection Reasons

Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:31 pm

All,

We have seen the rejection notes before...."Everyone has their photos rejected from time to time....." Regardless how one may feel about them, they do help make us better photographers/editors. "Constructive criticism" if you will.

Many here may get a photo kicked back for one reason or another "Oversharpened" or "grainy". You fix it, and then try again.

But this thread is for the photos that you do not have the time for in a week to fix.The ones that you thought "I think it looks ok....." and then the feedback is such that, well, the photo will never see the light of day. The "Uber-rejection".

AND, this is not a dig at the screeners. They have jobs and families/friends too and take the time to wade through the material.

So I pose this question to the photographers in the spirit of growing and improving, "What one photo garnered you the most rejection reasons?"

I'll lead off.

6.

1) Vignetting
2) Dark
3) Editing Halos
4) Quality
5) Size
6) Grainy

My apologies for sending something in that bad. Thanks to whomever took the time to sift through it. It will not be coming back.
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:51 pm

The first photo I ever uploaded was with a medium-end point-and-shoot and got downed for soft, grainy, distance, size, centered, and probably some other things besides. I don't remember, since I don't have that rejection message anymore. But it was something like six reasons. Suffice it to say that I never made that mistake again.
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:16 am

1) Soft
2) Soft
3) Soft
4) Colour
In that order
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:24 pm

These were for the same picture?

Or 4 different shots?

Looks like you had a British screener look at number four based on the spelling.

Anyone know why we do not hear of the names of the screener that first looks at our photos?
I will search for a "Screener process" thread.

Also, does anyone know when the "Rejection Guide" or the "Photoshop Guide" might be updated?

Is there one for Light room? I honestly do not have the time to go through the 35-step editing process to make every shot perfect and I'm sure there are some screeners out there who would attest to the fact that I don't.
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:50 pm

Quoting gunship01 (Reply 3):
Looks like you had a British screener look at number four based on the spelling.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, some of the rejection reasons are off a form and the screener only directly types them in the "comment from the screeners" section (in the rejected photos section of the photographer homepage, you'll see an extra "personal" next to the other rejection reasons.)
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:26 pm

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 4):
I wouldn't be so sure about that, some of the rejection reasons are off a form

All rejection reason text is automatically generated, as we simply check a box for the appropriate rejection reason. The only time we will manually type a comment is if more details are warranted.

Quoting gunship01 (Reply 3):
Anyone know why we do not hear of the names of the screener that first looks at our photos?
I will search for a "Screener process" thread.

Seriously? We get enough hate mail as it is, can you imagine the ill-will knowing exactly who rejected your image would generate? Not a chance this would ever happen.

Quoting gunship01 (Reply 3):
Also, does anyone know when the "Rejection Guide" or the "Photoshop Guide" might be updated?

Rejection guide was updated a few months ago, and is updated from time to time, as needed. The Editing Guide was done on a volunteer basis, so if you can get another knowledgeable person to volunteer their time, it can be updated at any time.

Quoting gunship01 (Reply 3):
I honestly do not have the time to go through the 35-step editing process to make every shot perfect

If you think editing involves 35 steps, you truly don't have much feel for what is needed. My editing flow is closer to 5 steps, and my acceptance ratio is pretty good.

Quoting gunship01 (Thread starter):
What one photo garnered you the most rejection reasons?
Quoting gunship01 (Thread starter):
What one photo garnered you the most rejection reasons?"

I'll lead off.

6.

I think the record is 14, so you got off relatively lightly.
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:23 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 5):
I think the record is 14

Probably mine :P

I rarely get more than 3, usually just one "Quality" which wheighs more than all others combined...
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:36 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 5):
All rejection reason text is automatically generated, as we simply check a box for the appropriate rejection reason. The only time we will manually type a comment is if more details are warranted.

Didn't know. Makes sense to have it in that manner.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 5):
Seriously? We get enough hate mail as it is, can you imagine the ill-will knowing exactly who rejected your image would generate? Not a chance this would ever happen.

Right on that I suppose.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 5):
Rejection guide was updated a few months ago, and is updated from time to time, as needed. The Editing Guide was done on a volunteer basis, so if you can get another knowledgeable person to volunteer their time, it can be updated at any time.

With only 5 pictures in the hopper as of right now, few would consider my thoughts as authoritative, but I am willing to see about generating one for Lightroom and letting the masses chime in for corrections.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 5):
If you think editing involves 35 steps, you truly don't have much feel for what is needed. My editing flow is closer to 5 steps, and my acceptance ratio is pretty good.

The number was generated was my attempt at sarcasm. I know it is less and my basic technique is to work top down in Lightroom checking 5-6 items along the way. Have seen more "grainy" rejections but that is plane against sky or could be a factor of cropping. Will work on that.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 5):
I think the record is 14, so you got off relatively lightly.

LMAO! That was my question from the start. 14 on one picture! I was fortunate and shall consider myself so in the future in light of this information.

Thanks for taking the time to respond all.
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:13 pm

Quoting JOshu (Reply 2):

No no! I was just referring to it in commonality...I get a ton of soft rejections. I need a new lens.
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Gunship01
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:30 pm

Copy.

I'm getting "Grainy" now where it used to be "Over sharpened." "Soft" would be number three. Oh, and "Dark". Seems to get it to the perfect exposure, the tail or another aspect gets washed out.

Will have to look for a You Tube or other "Lightroom" editing guide in a video format to view to see what I am messing up.
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:37 pm

Quoting gunship01 (Reply 7):
With only 5 pictures in the hopper as of right now, few would consider my thoughts as authoritative, but I am willing to see about generating one for Lightroom and letting the masses chime in for corrections.

I would say that knowing the software well is more important than having a lot of photos in the db. The PS editing guide is really fairly basic. I think that people with a lot of photos probably have a better understanding of how/when/how much to use the basic tools and techniques, but there is a lot of that that you just can't explain in a guide.
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:21 pm

soft, high contrast, distance, motive, low in frame, center, quality, grainy, dark, category, blurry, over sharpened, informatiıon, level, size,

I think I went through all the rejection reasons   top ones are though quality, soft and dark

I am trying to post photos since 2005 and out of 40 tries since then, I only managed to get 4 of them accepted so far. However I am happy because each time I get a new critique for my photography and I get to improve it.

One think I strongly suggest to fellow photographers is to check their monitors at home. Everyone has a different screen setting and so if your screen is too bright, when you edit your photo accordingly, in an another screen it might appear much darker than yours.

Also, as suggested in this post, it would be very cool to see the rejection statistics, it would be very interesting to see the top rejection reasons
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:46 pm

LLA001,

I have to agree with you. I get hit with "Dark" so much, I should change my moniker here to "Dark Vadar".

I will have the get the screen calibrated as the 7D viewing screen shows plenty of light, but when I edit and then post for submission, it looks soft and dark.

Thanks for chiming in.

Cliff

On that note......who here knows of a good calibration tool for laptops and desktop systems?
 
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RE: Most Rejection Reasons

Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:16 am

"Dark Vader" nice one  

well there are some calibrating tools for your monitor, you plug in through the USB and put the sensors on the monitor and it will automatically calibrate your monitor.

I had monitor calibrating problems when I printed my photographs, so the print shop I work with gave me a test print of a color chart according to their setting and I went home an compared that print to my monitor and adjusted accordingly.

If monitor calibrating is a major reason for rejections, perhaps a similar solution could be applied here ?

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