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Spotting At Newark Question

Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:45 pm

A.Net,

If you read my previous posts, you will know that I am taking a trip this summer and connecting at EWR and FRA. I was wondering where (What terminal, concourse, ect.) I should go to get good pictures of planes and the runway at EWR. I was also looking for an updated list of every airline that flies into EWR and every destination and aircraft that is sent. I have looked at some sites like wikipedia (of course) but with the recent additions like Icelandair, Virgin America and other UA destinations being added, I was wondering if there was a database that was accurate and up to date. I want to know all this information so I can figure out where to go to get the best pictures and spotting opportunities. Thanks to all the people who answer all my questions in advance!  

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:50 pm

In terms of looking ahead at the flights that are passing through EWR, try this, hopefully this helps...

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KEWR
 
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:11 am

Thanks a lot, I cant believe I didn't even look at FlightAware!!
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:23 pm

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:14 pm

Thanks,
The problem with the website is that it doesn't list everything in one snapshot
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:02 pm

Does anyone have a list of all the departures and arrivals on June 5, 2013 or has a method of finding departures and arrivals on a Wendsday?

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:27 pm

Take a look at FlightAware for a few days and jot down flights that look interesting to you - not sure what you're after, but the list of really interesting stuff shouldn't be that long. Then, go to the individual airline web sites and look up their schedules for your date. It's far from scientific but will help you plan your trip.

EDIT: With regard to the second part of your question, you can scroll back in FlightAware to the previous Wednesday to see flights. You have a few weeks before your trip, so if you do that for a few weeks in a row you'll have a good idea of the regular traffic for that day.

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:18 pm

Quoting aerovtp (Thread starter):
was wondering where (What terminal, concourse, ect.)

If you're flying UA, then you are in luck. Go down to I think its gate 85--88 or so. Great view of taxiway and runway.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:55 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. I decided to go onto Kayak and "book flights" from different airlines and their destinations. I was able to find the arrivals and departures for all the major airlines on the date. I will post it here for the benefit of others once I am finished.

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Wed May 01, 2013 10:38 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 7):
If you're flying UA, then you are in luck. Go down to I think its gate 85--88 or so. Great view of taxiway and runway.

Thanks! I am flying coming Tuesday via EWR. Have a 3 hour layover.....Will try to see what I can get
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Wed May 01, 2013 11:04 am

Arrival Departure
Air India 7:55 16:25
British Airways 13:20 18:25
El Al 5:45 13:30
Jet Airways 12:30 18:30
Lufthansa (DUS) 14:35 --
Lufthansa (FRA) 15:55 18:05
Singapore 17:50 --
TAP Portugal 3:25 17:55
SAS (Oslo) 13:10 --
SAS (Sweden) 12:55 17:20

This list is for a Wednesday June 5 and is specialized for my connection times so I have left blanks. There is an another SAS flight to Copenhagan you should check KAYAK. I will update it a little later. Enjoy!!

For the person who is going to go to EWR, can you post a Trip report of pictures! Link it on this thread please too!
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Wed May 01, 2013 5:00 pm

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Wed May 01, 2013 8:23 pm

Thanks to everyone who has given information so far especially 727LOVER,

To keep the ball rolling in this thread (My 8 hours at EWR are going to be amazing because of this thread) does anyone know if the active runways change based on the wind conditions and if that changes where you should go to do spotting. I want to be able to predict where to go the night before flying because I will know the wind direction by then.

Thanks a lot guys and keep it coming,

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Wed May 01, 2013 9:41 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong, but... if it's blowing from the north:

4L is used for takeoffs and 4R is used for landings

If the winds shift to the opposite direction (south,southwest,southeast I don't know it's whatever),

22R is used for takeoffs and 22L is used for landings.

In terms of where to go, you could drive up and down Route 95... just kidding ALTHOUGH it's fun to try to race to planes I suggest you try it, anyways, uhhhh.... 727LOVER, got anything? If this was Boston I could help you.
 
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Wed May 01, 2013 11:50 pm

Quoting southwest9 (Reply 13):
uhhhh.... 727LOVER, got anything?

Oh I am no EWR expert by any means. I haven't even been there since 2006. But perimeter wise, EWR is very hard. If you are at the gate 87-88 spot, you'll be able to watch all ops on the 4s/22s no matter the wind direction.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Thu May 02, 2013 12:36 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 14):
But perimeter wise, EWR is very hard.

Very true, very true. If you look on Google Maps around EWR, you'll notice that on all four sides there is virtually NO WHERE to stand and photograph nice heavies taking off into the sunset. In all seriousness, Route 95 is literally your best bet, I got a few nice shots of a Jetblue A320 landing parallel to my Honda.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Thu May 02, 2013 2:59 am

Quoting aerovtp (Reply 12):
does anyone know if the active runways change based on the wind conditions and if that changes where you should go to do spotting. I want to be able to predict where to go the night before flying because I will know the wind direction by then.

I was there on Friday to catch the United Retro jet departing. As soon as I got set up in my spot, thinking there was no reason for them to switch, they switched. Two minutes of silence was the only clue before I was looking at landing lights. And of course, I missed the United. But not without cursing up a storm.

So, apparently, wind direction isn't the only factor, because there was no change in the wind, as shown by the flag I was observing.

Good luck
 
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Thu May 02, 2013 11:11 am

Ok thanks

I think at this point I need to just go there and play it by ear and then post how it went. I will be creating a trip report on Youtube.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Thu May 02, 2013 3:32 pm

Quoting southwest9 (Reply 15):
If you look on Google Maps around EWR, you'll notice that on all four sides there is virtually NO WHERE to stand and photograph nice heavies taking off into the sunset.

There are some spots off airport where you could shoot from, but local law enforcement is VERY aggressive about moving you out if you have a camera. For all the shooting I've done around NYC, I've never bothered with EWR.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun May 05, 2013 12:51 am

Another thing one could do is to ride the train for a little while. EWR & DFW have similiar trains. The difference is @ EWR, one is not beyond security



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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun May 05, 2013 1:14 am

Another area that I used to hang out at years ago was theNorth parkinglot for 22L arrivals. You can see it here:
http://www.panynj.gov/airports/ewr-parking.cfm

I haven;t been herein ages. You would probably only last in there for 15-30 minutes, so time it with something you REEEEEEEAAAALLLLY want.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun May 05, 2013 6:10 pm

A.Net,

With airlines leaving EWR like Alitalia and Singapore, does anyone know about any airlines that are going to come in to EWR. I'm kind of sad that all of EWR's traffic is going to JFK. I don't want EWR to become just a UA airport. UAis also focusing on IAH, ORD, and SFO and I feel that everyone is just pushing EWR down. Thoughts Anyone??

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon May 06, 2013 1:37 am

The north parking is a good spot for overhead shots as pointed out by 727Lover, and I spent a nice afternoon there a few years ago. I kept a low profile, only exiting my car when something I wanted to photograph was in range. Even better, if you could find a place to sit in your car and take pictures, you'd probably be in great shape. Be aware that when I was there the daily rate for the lot was $15, and I was a bit dismayed when I exited after about 90 minutes that the rate was not pro-rated. I guess $15 for 90 minutes of entertainment isn't that bad, and one of my shots taken that day is among my top 5 most popular shots on A.net. Well worth the money.
 
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon May 06, 2013 2:16 am

Quoting JohnJ (Reply 22):
and one of my shots taken that day is among my top 5 most popular shots on A.net. Well worth the money.

Please, show us so we may see the angle.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Tue May 07, 2013 9:11 pm

Anyone have any good videos on youtube that show the view from the train.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun May 12, 2013 9:52 pm

Does anyone know if there are any new airlines coming into EWR??
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun May 12, 2013 11:06 pm

YES!!!

Icelandair will be having flights to Reykjavík-Keflavík, begins October 28, 2013 out of terminal B.

Here are all of the airlines, along with the terminal that they operate out of.

Air Canada A
Air Canada Express operated by Jazz Air A
Air Canada Express operated by Sky Regional Airlines A
Air India B
Alaska Airlines B
American Airlines A
American Eagle A
American Eagle operated by Republic Airlines A
British Airways B
Delta Air Lines B
Delta Connection operated by Compass Airlines B
Delta Connection operated by ExpressJet B
Delta Connection operated by Pinnacle Airlines B
El Al B
Icelandair B
Jet Airways B
JetBlue Airways A
Lufthansa B
OpenSkies B
Porter Airlines B
Scandinavian Airlines B
Singapore Airlines B
Southwest Airlines A
Swiss International Air Lines B
TAP Portugal B
United Airlines C
United Express operated by CommutAir C
United Express operated by ExpressJet Airlines A, C
United Express operated by Republic Airlines C
United Express operated by Shuttle America A, C
US Airways A
US Airways Express operated by Mesa Airlines A
US Airways Express operated by Piedmont Airlines A
Virgin Atlantic Airways B
Virgin America A
WestJet A
 
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon May 13, 2013 11:05 am

Thanks a lot Southwest9.

I knew about Icelandair but I was hoping there would be something before my trip.

Oh well,
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun May 26, 2013 12:23 pm

Quoting aerovtp (Reply 10):
can you post a Trip report of pictures!

So sorry mate....between my arriving flight, 2 gate changes, locating my sister (who was joining me onwards) and disorganized boarding for international, I could not get material for a trip report. However I did see the following from the lists above:

Quoting aerovtp (Reply 10):
British Airways 13:20 18:25
El Al 5:45 13:30
Jet Airways 12:30 18:30
Quoting aerovtp (Reply 10):
SAS (Oslo) 13:10 --
SAS (Sweden) 12:55 17:20

I don't know which SAS I saw but it was a 340.

Another thing, I swear I counted 3 x BA - 1 x 757 and 2 x 772. Did I make a mistake?
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sun May 26, 2013 3:00 pm

Thats awesome VTORD!! You got to use my excel sheet!! The 757 BA is Openskies and goes to Paris Orly. The other two 772s are both London bound.
Only a couple days to my trip. I will post a link to a website which will have my trip report!

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Fri May 31, 2013 6:16 pm

I just spent a combined 9 hours at EWR inside the terminal during two recent stopovers and found some good spots to get shots from. I'm still going through them all and will put some of the good ones up here. Among the interesting ones, for me (with KRSW being my "home" airport, not much big or interesting comes through there), were the SAS, TAP, Lufthansa, quite a few StarAliance aircraft and I was able to get some with the evolving New York skyline in the background. I'll add some links once the shots are up.
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:44 pm

Thanks jpmagero.

Will be interesting to actually see some pictures from these good spots.

Thanks,
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:30 am

For reference, here are some of the most recently added, I still have a stack more to edit and add. On my return, it was raining the whole afternoon so not a great shots, but got some half-decent ones of some heavies landing in the rain. Will get those up towards the end of the week. Cheers.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/vandarix/sets/72157632928728259/
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:35 pm

Awesome jpmagero
I am going to Newark and Frankfurt on Wendsday and I hope to get a couple pictures up by next week.

Thanks,
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:56 pm

I finished the trip and let me put it this way, Newark is a pretty annoying place to do plane spotting. To move from one concourse to another, you need to go through security all over again. The AirTrains are okay to spot from but it gets old and if you stay at the stations or in the trains for some time, airport workers tell you that you cannot take pictures.
I have taken a couple of good photos though and will upload them later. Overall, very happy with Frankfurt but pretty disappointed with the way my Newark visit went considering I spent so much time planning. Of my 7 hours there, I probably spent a good portion of that in security.

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:33 am

Sorry that Newark didn't really work out, not surprised about security, but it sounds like your best bet was to attach a camera to a bird and have it fly around the outside of the terminals.   Other than that, some airports are just tough to get real good and close up shots, but at least you got some good experience.
 
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:59 pm

Here is a link to a Google Drive Folder with my pictures.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-1IrbVpOTtgRmtKbnE3ZTl3Wjg&usp=sharing

I will be posting the edited trip report with videos on Youtube sometime in the near future. I tried to find the best pictures but the filter wasn't that tight  

It is still actively uploading as of this post.

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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:14 pm

Here is a video of the takeoff from Newark!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-35fWeodB0

Enjoy,
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RE: Spotting At Newark Question

Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:26 am

Here's a shot I got inside the terminal near gate C114, got some others near C99 as well, yet to be put in the queue.


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