Newark727
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Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:44 pm

I'm a bit frustrated with my current lens for walking around/close up shooting, an EF 24-105 IS USM- some may remember my travails trying to get it fixed, which I've mostly solved now, but still, it does tend to run out of focal length rather quickly and it's sometimes a bit unhappy at the far end of its focal range still. Looking through a Canon catalog, I see a 18-200mm lens that would be useful in that respect, if not necessarily anything else. Has anyone used it? Was it a good lens? Thanks.
 
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:33 pm

I don't any experience with this lens, but all in one zooms are known for their vesatility, not their all around sharpness. If you want a walkaround lens, it is great. For spotting, look at the 70-200mm.
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:16 pm

For $50 less you can get the 70-300f4-f5.6IS that is very well received and for a bit less (on offer) there's the 70-200f4L which is excellent, but no IS.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...2578A002_EF_70_200mm_f_4L_USM.html

(the link for the 70-300IS is getting mangled, but you can find it at b&h)

As said, such a wide range of focal lengths on the 18-200 inevitably means optical compromises. It depends on the quality you want to obtain and whether you want to be swapping lenses.
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:56 pm

Quoting Newark727 (Thread starter):

Are you looking for more range at the short end, long end, or both?

If you need a wider lens and don't want to spend a whole lot, the 18-55 IS is actually a pretty decent lens for the (cheap) price.

I haven't used the 18-200, but I would expect it to be quite soft at the long end, based on my experience with the EF-S 55-250. Even the EF 70-300 IS USM gets quite soft over 250mm.
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:24 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 3):
Are you looking for more range at the short end, long end, or both?

If you need a wider lens and don't want to spend a whole lot, the 18-55 IS is actually a pretty decent lens for the (cheap) price.

More range at the short end would be nice. The issue I have is that I use the 24-105 or 28-135 for subjects nearby, but if I am tempted by something smaller or further away while using it I have to decide whether to switch to the 100-400L (which is heavy, and too big to keep fitted to the camera when not in use with my current camera bag.) But the answers I've seen so far aren't altogether surprising as to the difficulties encountered by general zoom lenses, I'll think on other solutions.
 
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:40 pm

18mm is almost super-wide-angle. 200mm is getting towards super-telephoto. A lens that professes to do both well will either be mega, mega expensive or... well.... doesn't exist. Big compromises at both ends I'd say.

Plus you have two L series lenses in the 24-105 and 100-400. It's pointless 'down-grading' to a lesser lens unless you absolutely need the flexibility. Changing lenses is a pain but normally it's par for the course.

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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:23 pm

Quoting JakTrax (Reply 5):

18mm is almost super-wide-angle. 200mm is getting towards super-telephoto. A lens that professes to do both well will either be mega, mega expensive or... well.... doesn't exist. Big compromises at both ends I'd say.

Plus you have two L series lenses in the 24-105 and 100-400. It's pointless 'down-grading' to a lesser lens unless you absolutely need the flexibility. Changing lenses is a pain but normally it's par for the course.

Karl

If I was really serious about this I'd consider the 28-300 L, but it is over $2500 on Canon's website. As it is, I'm just kicking around ideas, I'm not ready to jump back into the market for a new lens.
 
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:11 pm

This may sound stupid, but would you like another body? Mabye you could get a used or refurbished Canon 60D or 7D.
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:14 pm

Quoting FLPhoto (Reply 7):
This may sound stupid, but would you like another body? Mabye you could get a used or refurbished Canon 60D or 7D.

What would that possibly do to expand his focal length range or solve lens issues?
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:41 pm

Quoting FLPhoto (Reply 7):
This may sound stupid, but would you like another body? Mabye you could get a used or refurbished Canon 60D or 7D.
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:44 pm

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 8):
What would that possibly do to expand his focal length range or solve lens issues?

Well it would mean I don't have to change lenses on one body, and can just switch from camera to camera. Which, in a limited range of situations I've been in recently, would be pretty handy to do, but ehhhh.
 
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:57 pm

Quoting FLPhoto (Reply 7):

What I meant by this is he said he had a 100-400, and he could have two bodies with a 100-400 on one and a 24-105 on another.
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RE: Canon EF-S 18-200 IS: Good For Spotting?

Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:51 am

Quoting FLPhoto (Reply 11):
What I meant by this is he said he had a 100-400, and he could have two bodies with a 100-400 on one and a 24-105 on another.

Ok, but he could also just switch between the lenses instead of dropping $600 or more, on a brand new or used body. It's not the end of the world to have to do.

It's not like you need a 1:1 for lenses and bodies, that would be ridiculous. Maybe you should learn how to shoot with the body that you have rather than just wanting a new one.

To address you Newark727: I can't really add anything, everyone seems to have helped you out, but I would not waste money on a body that you don't absolutely require. Glass is good to have in different ranges... bodies, not so much.

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