len90
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Kphl Spotting

Tue Jul 30, 2013 10:13 pm

Hello everyone!

I just have a quick question about spotting at KPHL. I know you can go on Hog Island Road to spot, but how has it been recently with the police and security? I've visited the various sites with guides to spotting at PHL but none of them had updates from this year. Anyone know if parking in the grass across the street is still allowed? Latest updates on them are from 2009 stating issues with law enforcement chasing spotters off and installation of No Parking signs.

I am hoping to try and sneak over for a little bit between 3 and 5 tomorrow afternoon. I'm hoping it is easier there than KEWR where the only spot is Ikea and the police are not very friendly out there.

Thanks in advance,
Len

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kiffy
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RE: Kphl Spotting

Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:04 pm

Quoting len90 (Thread starter):
Anyone know if parking in the grass across the street is still allowed?

Yes it is, I've been going to PHL for a few years now and I've never been bothered. Just don't go on the airport side of the road (except if your spotting from the gravel parking lot across from the fire training at the end of runway 9R). If security drives by they usually just wave and continue on their way.  
Quoting len90 (Thread starter):
installation of No Parking signs.

The only no parking signs I remember are on the road parallel to runway 9R.

Quoting len90 (Thread starter):
I'm hoping it is easier there than KEWR where the only spot is Ikea and the police are not very friendly out there.

Spotting at PHL is nothing like EWR as its actually allowed.  

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len90
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RE: Kphl Spotting

Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:39 am

Thanks kiffy for the reply. Great to know they allow spotting. Now I just hope I have the time to make the quick trip over there tomorrow. If not, then I should be able to do it one morning next week. I hear the lighting is decent almost all day with the 27s.

Going to Newark the past few months is like going on a secret mission. Need to pick your plane and hope you don't get caught.
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RE: Kphl Spotting

Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:28 am

Quoting len90 (Reply 2):
I hear the lighting is decent almost all day with the 27s

Correct and as the light changes throughout the day its pretty easy to change accordingly by moving around Hog Island Rd. This time of year you'll want to stay to the north of 27 in the morning and evenings. Here's a helpful site called SunCalc.

Quoting len90 (Reply 2):
Going to Newark the past few months is like going on a secret mission. Need to pick your plane and hope you don't get caught.

Haha very true, I might have done that before...   
 
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RE: Kphl Spotting

Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:37 am

Actually, the no parking signs are installed along the entire length of Hog Island Rd. If an LEO wants to make an issue of it(and they have, in a recent encounter I am aware of), they can make you move. Technically, you are not allowed to park there, even though people have been doing it for years. I myself have never been chased.

This time of year, about mid afternoon the sun shines right down the center of the 27's, such that all aircraft landing on them are front-lit. After about 3pm, you'll want to move further up the road to get shots that aren't backlit. During the winter months, you can stay to the south of the runways for pretty much the whole day and have decent lighting(albeit not that much of it)

I just flew in today on US and we landed on 9R, which is common during bad weather, I guess it had just finished raining.

As far as EWR goes, that airport is very difficult to spot at. However, there is no such rule that says 'plane spotting is not allowed' there. That's just something they like to make up to scare you off. Remember, tresspassing is one thing, planespotting is not illegal.
 
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RE: Kphl Spotting

Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:17 am

Thanks Kiffy for the helpful tips. I was finally able to get out there this past Wednesday for a brief moment. Only was able to catch 3 or 4 planes land on 9R. Conditions were not great as it was very overcast.

megatop412: There were a lot of Philly police riding up and down Hog Island road this past Wednesday. I actually did stop and talk to one about it. Basically the LEO informed me that you can hang around on the far side of the street and take pictures, just don't set up tripods, and keep the camera lens small. LEOs will get called out by the public and will approach you. The most they will probably do is take your information and tell you to leave. The police are well aware of the regular spotters and seem to be overall decent to letting it. I'll try swinging by another time I have freedom and good weather. From what I see the heavy traffic at PHL is between 13:30 and 15:00.

EWR: Elizabeth police and PAPD will chase you away. In general the Port Authority of NY NJ is just against it despite spotting/photogrpahy being legal.
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