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"General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:53 pm

Just wondering why Air to air aviation Photos are taken from higher angles. Is it to avoid the wing from covering the fuselage or to see the landscape below?

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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:23 pm

Quoting flight (Thread starter):
Just wondering why Air to air aviation Photos are taken from higher angles. Is it to avoid the wing from covering the fuselage or to see the landscape below?

I'm not an air-to-air photographer, but from a viewer's perspective, I can think of some immediate reasons:

1.) Sunlight tends to fall more from above than below.
2.) Landscape or clouds below.
3.) For aviation nuts, the underside of an aircraft may be interesting, but probably not so much for general consumption. Especially if the landing gear is retracted, there ain't much going on down there. Plus, all the painting/decal-ing tends to be on the sides of the fuse/tail.
4.) Related to #2, I feel that a shot of the airplane flying above the ground feels much more, I don't know, "flying-ish", then a shot of an airplane flying under the sky. You get much more of a sense of, "this airplane is really flying at some altitude above the ground".
5.) Did I mention that sunlight tends to fall from above?  
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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:18 am

Here's one more - A shot from below might not be distinguishable from something taken from the ground. If you are going to make the effort to shoot air-to-air you probably want something that can't be replicated otherwise.
 
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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:57 am

Well, you're partly correct. While I do have a higher percentage of images looking down, I also have some pretty much horizontal.


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And just to show, sometimes looking slightly upwards can also be very effective. In reality, it depends on what effect you're looking for.


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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:30 am

Quoting flight (Thread starter):

Just wondering why Air to air aviation Photos are taken from higher angles.

I think the simple answer is, because you can!
 
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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:45 am

Thanks for the informative responses guys.
So its safe to assume, that avoiding wings over fuselage is not one of the reasons why air to air photos are taken at a higher angle....
 
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Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:37 am

It will also depend on the clearances you get from ATC as well for the area your operating in. When we were operating over YSSY international, we got not below 1000ft and over Botany Bay, we got not below 500ft.
 
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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:39 pm

Quoting flight (Reply 5):
So its safe to assume, that avoiding wings over fuselage is not one of the reasons why air to air photos are taken at a higher angle....

You have an odd fixation about wings blocking the fuselage.  

I'm sure in some situations, there is a desire to have the fuse unblocked. There's likely no one-size-fits-all about it.

Quoting photopilot (Reply 3):
And just to show, sometimes looking slightly upwards can also be very effective. In reality, it depends on what effect you're looking for.

Nice shot!
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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:02 am

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 2):
Here's one more - A shot from below might not be distinguishable from something taken from the ground. If you are going to make the effort to shoot air-to-air you probably want something that can't be replicated otherwise.

   This.

If I were going through the effort to organize an air-to-air shoot, I wouldn't want to come away with photos that just look like they were taken from the ground. I would want it to look like I were right there alongside (or above!) the aircraft.
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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:11 am

Quoting flight (Thread starter):
Just wondering why Air to air aviation Photos are taken from higher angles. Is it to avoid the wing from covering the fuselage or to see the landscape below?

The subject will have a bearing on this and a high-winged aircraft may well look better from below as shown by Stephen above. I have recently taken some of a low-winged aircraft (not yet uploaded) and they do look best taken from a little above.and both the subject and type of camera ship have to be considered in the planning of the shoot and the briefing.


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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:27 pm

Thanks again for the comments. Mick, why do low wing aircraft look better when taken from above?
 
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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:17 am

Quoting Flight (Reply 10):
why do low wing aircraft look better when taken from above?

I am sure that many of us have been to airshows where the pilots only show the undersides of the aircraft where you see little but an unattractive great slab of wing. However when you plan an air to air session, at least if you plan properly it is possible to avoid that.

Too high above the high winged aircraft such as the Auster I showed above would have a similar effect.

Air to air is actually quite daunting, not the proximity of the aircraft but the cost of the aircraft being in the air if you do not get your photographs right.

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RE: "General Question=Air To Air Photos"

Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:57 am

Thanks Mick for the response. Lastly your intention to get higher, with your shots and/or air-to-air photos was for the points that you mentioned. Not because you where avoiding the wing blocking the fuselage.

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