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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Sat May 20, 2017 2:00 pm

len90 wrote:
Was on a really nice stretch this week with the one rejection being nicely explained.

Got these 4 rejections today:

Underexposed:
http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 4f3c0273da

Dark:
http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 0aee6203f7
http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 1e4c520b15
http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 1404c3bb46

All screened at about the same time.


Hello Len,
I think the Delta is ok for me. But others i think can be brighter. I have downloaded your photos and edited them quickly some of them indeed can be brighter. Besides, the AA is Grey so it might make people feel a little dark i think so i would like to bright them more.

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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Mon May 22, 2017 10:54 am

HI Len,

Underexposed and dark are the same. We are required to use underexposed instead of dark, but not everyone has that in their system yet...

1) I agree. Try: histogram --> mid slider to 1.20, right slider to 240. See the difference.
2) Same as #1.
3) Same as #1.
4) Same as #1.
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Tue May 23, 2017 12:20 pm

Not dark per se but, given the light, I think all could stand a bit of brightening.

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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Wed May 24, 2017 3:50 am

They all fall victim to the changing sun angle at PHL then. As you get to summer the angle for 27s at PHL makes for a more nose lit set-up. Will add some brightness when I have a bit more time to edit more photos.

Kas if you remove "dark" as a reason then everyone will have to use underexposed :D
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:09 am

I have this one that got hit with motive. How is the streetlight a motive rejection?

http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 3c1eb3d935

This seems to be extremely subjective in nature. The streetlights are featured in many shots from JFK 13L arrivals and I've seen lots of other airports where there are streetlights in photos of approaching aircraft... LA and Toronto.
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:51 am

len90 wrote:
I have this one that got hit with motive. How is the streetlight a motive rejection?

http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 3c1eb3d935

This seems to be extremely subjective in nature. The streetlights are featured in many shots from JFK 13L arrivals and I've seen lots of other airports where there are streetlights in photos of approaching aircraft... LA and Toronto.


I think this situation can be accepted as i see many photos like this in DB before .
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:24 am

HarryLi wrote:
len90 wrote:
I have this one that got hit with motive. How is the streetlight a motive rejection?

http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 3c1eb3d935

This seems to be extremely subjective in nature. The streetlights are featured in many shots from JFK 13L arrivals and I've seen lots of other airports where there are streetlights in photos of approaching aircraft... LA and Toronto.


I think this situation can be accepted as i see many photos like this in DB before .


Granted there is also a slight OS issue on R1 and the plane's name. Also if I was to clone out the streetlight I believe that would go against site rules and result in a warning/temporary uploading ban?
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:57 am

len90 wrote:
HarryLi wrote:
len90 wrote:
I have this one that got hit with motive. How is the streetlight a motive rejection?

http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 3c1eb3d935

This seems to be extremely subjective in nature. The streetlights are featured in many shots from JFK 13L arrivals and I've seen lots of other airports where there are streetlights in photos of approaching aircraft... LA and Toronto.


I think this situation can be accepted as i see many photos like this in DB before .


Granted there is also a slight OS issue on R1 and the plane's name. Also if I was to clone out the streetlight I believe that would go against site rules and result in a warning/temporary uploading ban?

Yes, it would go against the rules .
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:52 pm

Vignette and OS: http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... fcfb734a54

The only equalized version I have access to right now is from the other site and there is no vignette there. Don't see any areas of OS on this one; unless you want to go extremely specific at that cockpit window???
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:19 pm

Hi Len,

speaking of the rejection reasons I don't see vignetting neither and it does not look oversharpened to me.

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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:55 pm

Underexposed, motive, personal message "distracting metallic part bottom left"
http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... 2fbfccfbf9

Seems like this is very screener dependent as these were accepted:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/JetBlue- ... Urog%3D%3D
http://www.airliners.net/photo/JetBlue- ... A0OA%3D%3D
http://www.airliners.net/photo/TAM/Boei ... A0OA%3D%3D
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:56 pm

I think the American Eagle could use some lightening on the shadows as it seems a little toplit. As for motive, it really is subjective. Personally, I would find that metallic pole distracting, but considering that there were similar shots accepted, you could try again.
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:24 pm

I agree with YQZ, the Eagle seems a little bit dark i think it could be brighter and the "Motive" reasons i think is no problem and i have some like these were accepted before so i think it is very subjective decision.
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:28 pm

len90 wrote:
Vignette and OS: http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/air ... fcfb734a54

The only equalized version I have access to right now is from the other site and there is no vignette there. Don't see any areas of OS on this one; unless you want to go extremely specific at that cockpit window???

I don't see vignetting in this photo either although i use Equalize in PS . Besides, the the sharpness of the whole photo seems ok for me ,no OS.
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:49 pm

http://www.airliners.net/user/photo-cor ... to/4407471

I`ve got a rejection on this, i can not really understand.
Category? This is in fact the TGW and this is a special paint, can not figure out what i did wrong.
Oversharpened...ok, maybe i overdid it a little bit

Personal message was "shown sign of cloning in the grass. Next time this will result in a ban."
Ok, i know cloning is only allowed to clean dust spots and i know there`s reasons for this rule. But what i cloned out was a ugly orange pole which has nothing to do with the aircraft, it was just distracting and hideous (much more then a dust spot could be). Is it really neccessary to take this rule so extremly serious?
 
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:20 pm

Crow,

Please start your own feedback thread for your photos. Your link does not work, as it leads me to my own photo queue. The use of cloning for reasons other than to remove dust spots is not allowed, so that included cones/poles).



/on-topic: Len, I saw that your photo got accepted upon appeal. I agree that it was acceptable motive-wise. I wasn't/I'm not in a position to comment as I'm away for a few days. Just a friendly suggestion, is it perhaps possible to position yourself a bit differently next time to not get the lamp post in the frame?
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:21 pm

YQZ380 wrote:
I think the American Eagle could use some lightening on the shadows as it seems a little toplit. As for motive, it really is subjective. Personally, I would find that metallic pole distracting, but considering that there were similar shots accepted, you could try again.


To be honest I have to agree with that. I find it distracting as well (even on the DL).
 
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:32 pm

airkas1 wrote:
/on-topic: Len, I saw that your photo got accepted upon appeal. I agree that it was acceptable motive-wise. I wasn't/I'm not in a position to comment as I'm away for a few days. Just a friendly suggestion, is it perhaps possible to position yourself a bit differently next time to not get the lamp post in the frame?

There really isn't much that can be done with that spot. It all relies with how the plane approaches. If they come in higher you can get them without the pole. The annoying thing is that streetlight doesn't work. Does anyone want to assist with the light's removal? I've tried changing up my angle but you have another light on the other side of the lot. You try moving closer but that puts the planes at a higher angle. Moving further back doesn't help either as there are even more streetlights behind me and a cross street.

Can you please provide a screener comment regarding the motive of the other two images? It really seems like it is a 50/50 depending on who screens. Would like to have some clarity on this.

I know the other poster was told to start a unique thread, but what that person did sounds like the other option which is to "remove" the distraction. I think that would be a lot worse as it is altering a photo and thus clear violation of rules.
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:17 am

There is no clear rule for such distractions, so it will always be subjective. And it that case I can understand it, especially by looking at your shots from that day I have the personal feeling that on some shots it is more distracting than on the others..
Screeners will possibly feel the same and can't be blamed IMO.
 
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Re: Post Screening: Questionable Rejections

Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:50 pm

I'm back at my station.

len90 wrote:
[Can you please provide a screener comment regarding the motive of the other two images? It really seems like it is a 50/50 depending on who screens. Would like to have some clarity on this.

I saw one of your images rejected in the appeals I think, the other one I didn't catch. Can you please link me the images you seek an opinion on (if still applicable)?
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