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Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:24 am

Hi everyone,

I'm still a beginner photographer, and trying to practice both my photo taking and editing abilities. I was hoping that I could get some feedback on some photos of GA at my local airport.

I know these are nothing special and there's no heavy metal, but I'm trying to take photos of subjects that are within my current skill range and camera ability as I learn how to improve.

Thanks in advance for your help and advice!

Cherokee:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...otography%20101/VP_Cherokee_02.jpg

C172:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...hotography%20101/VP_Skyhawk_01.jpg

Cirrus:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...Photography%20101/VP_Cirrus_01.jpg

C172:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...tography%20101/VP_Cessna172_01.jpg

TriPacer
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...otography%20101/VP_Tripacer_01.jpg
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:31 am

Not too bad. They are all somewhat oversharpened, and the second and fourth are backlit. The third seems to be suffering from some heat haze as well. I would focus on the first and last, which should just need some adjustment to the sharpening.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:07 pm

Thank you very much for the advice. They were all sharpened using 2 or 3 light passes of USM in PS. I hopefully fixed up the Cherokee and TriPacer photos by erasing jagged edges where needed using layers. They are currently in the queue.

I'll keep the other 3 for the personal album. Thanks again!
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:27 pm

Well, both the Cherokee and TriPacer were accepted, so thanks again for the help and advice!

Today I stopped by the airport and managed to get a few shots before I gave up due to my fingers being numb from the cold.

Hawker 800 (Love this paint job.)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...tography%20101/VP_Hawker800_03.jpg

Had a little trouble editing this next one, specifically with the color cast. Due to the setting sun, there was a strong yellow cast that I tried to neutralize. Any advice on this one is greatly appreciated.
Cessna 175:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...tography%20101/VP_Cessna175_02.jpg

Diamond Katana:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...aphy%20101/VP_DiamondKatana_01.jpg
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:37 pm

Quoting vposbic (Reply 3):
Diamond Katana:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...1.jpg

Love that aircraft. Its a DA40XLS Diamond Star though. Katana is the little A1 bother. I have over 100 hours in the DA40-180 model with G1000. Lovely aircraft to fly and if I ever bought one, that would be it.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:12 am

Quoting comair25 (Reply 4):
Love that aircraft. Its a DA40XLS Diamond Star though. Katana is the little A1 bother. I have over 100 hours in the DA40-180 model with G1000. Lovely aircraft to fly and if I ever bought one, that would be it.

Ah, my mistake, thanks for the correction! I obviously hadn't done my research on the N-number/aircraft type yet. I definitely would have caught that had I been uploading the shot and confirming the aircraft type.

I have to say though, the lack of main gear wheel pants detracts from the look a bit! (I've recently seen a Cirrus sans wheel pants too, and it also just looked off).
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:16 am

Quoting vposbic (Reply 3):
Hawker 800 (Love this paint job.)

Looks slightly oversharpened in places, and the contrast may be a touch strong (though it might just be the colorscheme).

Quoting vposbic (Reply 3):
Cessna 175:

Color looks fine (I actually would have probably removed less of the yellow personally). Sky looks a bit grainy.

Quoting vposbic (Reply 3):
Diamond Katana:

Tail looks maybe a little soft, but otherwise fine to me.
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:08 pm

Thanks for the input. I looked at the photos from the links, and they indeed seem oversharpened compared to when I open them in PS. I guess they lose quality in the upload process to Photobucket? Would it be better if I upload them to the A.net queu, and then remove them if they are not deemed up to par? (That way they are of the actual quality that will appear on A.net)

Anyway, in addition to those three photos, can I please have some advice regarding the following:

This one passed a brief motive test by a screener in another thread, but was not critiqued for overall quality, etc.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...Photography%20101/VP_Nimbus_01.jpg

And if the above photo of the Hawker in full is not acceptable, I am considering submitting this tail shot instead (though not both).
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...ography%20101/VP_HawkerTail_01.jpg

Thanks for your help and advice!
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:17 pm

Quoting vposbic (Reply 7):
This one passed a brief motive test by a screener in another thread, but was not critiqued for overall quality, etc.

Looks fine.

Quoting vposbic (Reply 7):
And if the above photo of the Hawker in full is not acceptable, I am considering submitting this tail shot instead

Prefer the wide-crop myself.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:00 am

Thanks Dana, I'll upload them and see how it goes.
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:48 pm

Well, thanks to everyone's help, all of the photos in my last batch got added to the database, so I was very pleased about that.

I have some new photos to upload, and I would please like some feedback on 2 of them. So far, I have been uploading 1024 pixel high photos, but I wanted to try to upload the following 2 photos at 1600 pixels, and I would like to know if the quality is there to upload them at this size or not.

Appreciate the feedback!

Great Lakes:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...76vp_greatlakesn3822f_large_01.jpg

Cessna 172S:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...9.8984vp_cessnan387af_large_01.jpg

[Edited 2012-01-29 15:34:52]
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:24 pm

Quoting vposbic (Reply 10):
I wanted to try to upload the following 2 photos at 1600 pixels, and I would like to know if the quality is there to upload them at this size or not.

First is probably ok; the second is more borderline.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:46 pm

Hi guys,

I have a post-screening question this time. The following photo was rejected for Color: Yellow Tint. I completely agree, considering that I think I uploaded the wrong photo. I had edited this one, saw that the color was wrong, and started another edit. Unfortunately, I selected the wrong photo during the upload process.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20120208_x1327960482.042vp_cherokeen8265n_02.jpg


Here is the version I should have uploaded. Is this "correct" version actually correct?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/u1328798637.8286vp_cherokeen8265n_03.jpg

Thanks in advance for your help and advice.
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:06 pm

A little bit over-corrected (touch too blue now) but you've got the right idea.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:24 pm

Thanks again for the advice Dana. I re-edited it one more time and put it back in the queue.
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:47 pm

Hi everyone,

This isn't really a pre or post screening query, but I didn't want to start a new thread just to ask the following simple question:

I just has a photo accepted this morning, and the comment that I had put in the remark section is missing. I'm assuming that the screeners removed it since it may not have provided any useful information to the photo?

I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere on the site that the screeners do indeed reserve the right to edit or delete remarks/comments, but I assumed it was mainly for vulgar or self-praising remarks. I don't mind, I'm just curious because this is the first time I've heard of this actually happening.

Also, is there a simple way to edit/add remarks after a photo has been uploaded? If the remark I added the first time around wasn't useful enough, I can add something that is (I generally hate it when photos have no remark  ).

[Edited 2012-02-28 06:47:59]
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:38 pm

That would depend what the remark was. Vulgar and self-praising remarks of course are removed, but anything in the "hey look at the waving/smiling/picking his nose pilot", "almost a bird strike!!!", or "this airline sucks!" will usually be removed as well.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:51 pm

Hello everyone,

I finally got a chance to get out and shoot some more photos, but this time I have some more general questions rather than photo quality questions.

I shot some photos of a Baron 55 today, and got several angles of it: left side, right side, and a frontal nose shot. I reread the rejection guide though, and I'm pretty sure the following 2 photos fall under the "Double" rejection guide, but I wanted to make sure. Specifically, I looked at examples 4a and 4b under the "Double" section, and my uncertainty comes from the fact that example 4a is not exactly as much of a nose shot as mine.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/Spitfire222/Aviation%20Photography%20101/VP_BaronN497A_01.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/Spitfire222/Aviation%20Photography%20101/VP_BaronN497A_02.jpg

Secondly, I just wanted to confirm my belief that the following photo would be rejected for "Dark"? The winds were gusting making for some interested landings which is why I even bothered with this shot. The problem is these photos are taken from the glider operations area, which why I'm allowed to get so close to the runway. Ideally, I should try to get on the other side of the runway for better lighting, but I'm not sure if it's permitted.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/Spitfire222/Aviation%20Photography%20101/VP_N163ME_01.jpg

Thanks for any help/advice.
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:28 am

Quoting vposbic (Reply 17):
and I'm pretty sure the following 2 photos fall under the "Double" rejection guide, but I wanted to make sure.

I'd say yes, more than likely a double.

Quoting vposbic (Reply 17):
Secondly, I just wanted to confirm my belief that the following photo would be rejected for "Dark"? The winds were gusting making for some interested landings which is why I even bothered with this shot.

Probably some combination of Dark, Contrast, or Overexposed due to the lighting.
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:59 pm

Thanks for the advice! I went ahead and picked one of the Baron shots to upload. The rest of the backlighted photos I'll keep for my personal collection.  
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:27 am

Hi guys,

I was wondering if I could get some thoughts on the following photo.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20120413_g1333681437.7212vp_marge_01.jpg

It was rejected for "Motive", with screener comments "poor crop, obstructions." I'll admit I wasn't too optimistic of this photo's chances, but I figured i could give it a shot, considering that the display of this aircraft makes it such that this is the only angle/view to get a decent photo of it. There's just so little room to compose it properly, and even my best efforts led to some wires in frame.

The "Motive" section of the rejection guide states the following for museum photos:
"...Permanent obstructions (such as steps, fences, or signs) that could not have been avoided by composing the shot differently are acceptable....Minor obstructions such as chains or ropes should be positioned to not seriously detract from the image..."

I might get a chance to return to the museum, so I was wondering if anyone thinks I bother trying to shoot it again, appeal the photo (based on the rejection guide comments), or just accept that there's little to no possibility that a photo of this aircraft will make it into the database.

Thanks for any advice!  
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:35 am

Try to find an angle where the cables/net aren't in the way. A slightly awkward crop should be acceptable if you can do that.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:02 am

Thanks for the quick advice Dana. Unfortunately, I don't think there's decent angle without some cables or netting being in frame. I'll check again the next time I'm there, and see if there might be some other workable solution if I get creative. Thanks again!
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:48 pm

Hi guys,

I just submitted a photo of Discovery atop her 747 carrier at IAD and got rejected for grain. I re-edited and applied a bit more noise reduction during RAW processing, and I was wondering if it was enough. Or, should I try this photo at 1000 pixels instead of 1200? Thanks for any help.  http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/v1334695571.5865vp_n905na_03.jpg
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:03 pm

I just added it, so you're good to go  
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:07 pm

Dana, thank you so much! This was my first experience with priority screening, and the expediency is very impressive. I'm very happy to have this photo accepted as I think it's the most interesting of my meager collection of photos on A.net.Thanks again to you and the entire screening team.  
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:23 pm

Hi guys,

I'm back with a post-screening question regarding the same P-38 that I had a photo rejected of for Motive (reply 20). This time, I tried to get a top-down 3/4 view, but this is all I could get in frame without other obstructions getting in the way.

I was encouraged by Dana's comment, but the crop was still not acceptable. Question is, is there an acceptable crop from this angle? Perhaps tighter? I have other photos from a similar angle, but not too different, that I could try. Any insight is appreciated, thanks!  Smile
Quoting dlowwa (Reply 21):
Try to find an angle where the cables/net aren't in the way. A slightly awkward crop should be acceptable if you can do that.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20120708_p1341028210.0359vp_marge_01.jpg

[Edited 2012-07-10 08:23:47]
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:19 pm

Quoting vposbic (Reply 26):

If possible, I would try to frame it so that the props aren't cut.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:30 pm

Thanks Dana. I'm not sure it's possible with the limited space, and with my equipment. I don't have a fish-eye lens, and even if I did, a wider FOV would introduce obstructions into the photo. Oh well.  

I have some pre-screening questions for you guys. These photos were taken with a borrowed camera that is unfamiliar to me, so I'm not as confident in them as I am with photos taken using my usual camera.


Phenom 100
I'm guessing this one would be done in for Contrast and Overexposed at least.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/v1342008169.0345vp_phenom100_n458lm_01.jpg

Cirrus SR-20
Dark and Overexposed I suppose, owing to the angle of lighting.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/r1342008334.2283vp_n720tx_01.jpg

And finally, these would be my first attempt at in-flight photos. I am unsure about motive (enough "airplane" in the photo, and enough interesting background?) Which one would be better?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/Spitfire222/Aviation%20Photography%20101/VP_N1573F_03.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/Spitfire222/Aviation%20Photography%20101/VP_N1573F_02.jpg



Thanks for any advice!  
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:53 pm

Quoting vposbic (Reply 28):
a wider FOV would introduce obstructions into the photo.

Some obstruction is allowed, especially for permanent displays where it is unavoidable.

Quoting vposbic (Reply 28):
Phenom 100

Soft, unlevel, harsh light, and some vignetting.

Quoting vposbic (Reply 28):
Cirrus SR-20

Harsh light/overexposed, soft, quality.

Quoting vposbic (Reply 28):
And finally, these would be my first attempt at in-flight photos.

Both a little soft, and color on the second. Might be fixable.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:40 pm

Thanks for the input Dana. I've removed the Phenom and Cirrus photos from the queue, and will probably keep them to myself; I don't think they can be fixed.

I'll work on the window view photos, but I take it that motive wise, either would work. Thanks!  
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:21 pm

Got some post-screening questions this time.  

Received this "Level" rejection, with personal note from the screener : "needs CCW rotation".

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/20120720_y1342048890.8448vp_n2447v_01.jpg

I leveled this photo using the vertical corners of the middle hangar behind the aircraft. (See image below) Now, I'm not sure if this was the correct way to do it, and if this is one of those cases where it just "feels" like CCW is needed. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Should I consider appealing? If not, how do I figure out how much CCW is needed? Because it really seems like it wouldn't need much, and I don't know what else to base it off of. Thanks for any help!  http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/Spitfire222/20120720_y13420488908448vp_n2447v_01.jpg
-Vincent
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:55 am

Hi everyone,

I have a motive question. Does the aircraft passing in the background serve as an interesting enough feature to justify this crop? Or should I go with a photo featuring only the B-25?

(Please note, this photo has not been edited other than crop and resize.)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/Spitfire222/MotiveQuerry.jpg
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:28 pm

Quoting vposbic (Reply 32):
Does the aircraft passing in the background serve as an interesting enough feature to justify this crop?

Borderline. I'd probably be ok with it, but can't say the same for everyone.
 
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RE: Prescreening - Various GA

Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:40 pm

Thank you Dana, I'll give it a shot, and if it doesn't make it, I'll try a different crop (barring any other issues with the photo).
-Vincent

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