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Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:24 pm

Hello

I've just submitted this one:

1 - http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/w1349301897.8369img_1257-1.jpg

2 - http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/r1349303336.986img_1222-1.jpg


Would like your feedback about it and it´s chances of acceptance.

Thx

[Edited 2012-10-03 15:30:21]
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:44 pm

Quoting Patich (Thread starter):
Would like your feedback about it and it´s chances of acceptance.

1. This looks oversharp on my screen towards the rear of the aircraft while the nose looks a little soft.
2. Possibly a little heat hazed and oversharp trying to compensate for it?

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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:14 am

Agree with Darren both slightly os, but I think should be passable
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:20 pm

Thank you both for your inputs and glad that you think they are passable.

Photo 1 has no sharp added, except the export sharp.

Photo 2 had just a little bit, but way less then what I used to use.

Something definitly changed with my photos this couple of months to be nedding no sharp.

[Edited 2012-10-04 13:00:13]
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:56 am

Hello

Please comment on these two. One is a pre-screening and the other a post-screening

Pre-screening:
Following the OS issue I had, this one is the first time i use the sharp slider to the left.
1 - http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../q1349386153.6948img_1176-1-24.jpg

Post- screening:
Rejected by Grainy and Category "Not dark category"
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...001_k1348264662.4461img_0926-3.jpg

Changed the NR, Masking and a little twick on the exposure. However I still have a doubt: Should the Dark category be selected, as the photo was taken after the sunset?
2 - http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/a1349433919.6988img_0926-1.jpg

[Edited 2012-10-05 03:59:59]

[Edited 2012-10-05 04:00:22]
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:20 pm

Quoting Patich (Reply 4):
Pre-screening:

Still a touch os, but might be passable.

Quoting Patich (Reply 4):
Post- screening:

If the sun was below the horizon, then 'Dark' was the correct category to select. New version looks a bit dark/soft.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:54 pm

Thanks Dana

Pre-screening:
Trying to get it right. Reduced sharp little bit more:
1 - http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../q1349444972.2349img_1176-4-18.jpg

Post-screening
Went back to the 1st version and increased Masking and a bit NR.
2 - http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/q1349443893.7171img_0926-2.jpg

Looks better?

Maybe this v2 firmware for the 7D is getting my photos sharper. I don´t know.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:15 pm

UA looks a bit soft.

Angola looks soft and a bit noisy.
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:45 pm

Thanks for your comments Vik

UA-
It seems I reduced too much. Just reverted to the previous version

Angola
Increased the NR and sharp. There is some distortion around the reg that I´m having some trouble to fix
Do you see the noise all around?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/o1349465458.4385img_0926-5.jpg

Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:40 pm

Quoting Patich (Reply 8):
Do you see the noise all around?

Mostly in the darker areas, like the grey on the bottom of the fuse.

It still looks soft to me - I'm thinking that you're putting in too much NR now. Also looks quite dark overall.
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:52 am

Quoting Patich (Reply 8):
Increased the NR and sharp.

I see a slight amount of noise, but as Vik said, softness would be the bigger problem.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:23 am

Thx Dana

The Angola was at ISO 800 and I´m failing to reduce Noise and Softness at the same time. Maybe it has no solution. I don´t know

Another one.
I would like your comments on this rejection:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ame=g1348936576.0305img_9502-2.jpg

Quality
Blurry
Over-sharpened
Overexposed
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:30 pm

Quoting Patich (Reply 11):
I would like your comments on this rejection:

I would have added color as well, a little too much yellow.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:53 pm

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 12):
I would have added color as well

ok... thats embarrassing. but yes I see your point. I´ll leave that to later.

Pre-screening
Please comment on this one. I like these greys skys but they are tricky.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/u1349823066.2465img_2358-1.jpg

Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:22 pm

I would say that the tail and reg area is a little overexposed and possibly a little oversharpened, and I think it could stand to be a tick higher in the frame.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:07 pm

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 14):
possibly a little oversharpened

I actually see it the opposite - I'd probably give the whole thing a slight kick of sharpening.  
I'm watching Jeopardy. The category is worst Madonna songs. "This one from 1987 is terrible".
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:42 am

Sharpening & centering look passable, it should be ok.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:28 pm

Thanks guys.

Pre-screening
Keeping in the greys skies theme and pushing it up a level.
I´ve just realize I have one photo of this "K" baby. I thought I had missed it.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/z1350220824.8365img_2362-3.jpg

Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:53 pm

Quoting Patich (Reply 17):
I´ve just realize I have one photo of this "K" baby.

Should be ok.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:16 pm

 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:57 pm

Not the best light on the second, but both will probably be passable.
 
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:28 pm

Quoting Patich (Reply 21):
Please comment on these ones:

Just a dust spot on the second; no major issues otherwise.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:33 pm

Hello Dana, spot removed and uploaded.

Now, my first experience indoors in a museum and also with a ultrawide that a fellow visitor lended me there.


Pre-screening
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/p1351800830.6821img_1723-1.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/a1351801384.4878img_1699-2.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/l1351801889.5079img_1676-1.jpg

Thx in advance

Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:36 pm

Cockpit shot is a bit bright, but otherwise they look ok for quality. For level, try to use the verticals in the center of the frame, and keep in mind for the barrel distortion typical with uwa shots the edges should tilt in equally as much.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:17 pm

ok

Pulled back a little on the 2nd. Is it better?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/k1351810335.7894img_1699-2-3.jpg

For the level,
ajusted on the 1st by the two bars on the top.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/u1351811148.7638img_1723-2.jpg

the 3rd is leveled by the bar over the captain window. does seem leveled. is it correct?

Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:48 pm

Quoting Patich (Reply 25):
Pulled back a little on the 2nd. Is it better?

Yes.

Quoting Patich (Reply 25):
does seem leveled. is it correct?

I think it needs cw rotation.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:47 pm

 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:00 am

First should be ok, but second still feels cw.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:25 am

Ok

Leveling this is revealing more complicated than I thought.

Now I leveled by the vertical bars between the blue column and the aircraft.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/q1351934310.333img_1723-4.jpg

And this one got rejected:

Post-Screening
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ame=f1351102023.3853img_1477-1.jpg
Over-sharpened
Overexposed

Thanks
Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:35 am

Quoting Patich (Reply 29):
Now I leveled by the vertical bars between the blue column and the aircraft.


Museum photography and wide angle lenses are inherently difficult when it comes to levelling. As a rule of thumb, always level using a vertical in the centre of the frame. This averages any barrel distortion. There are plenty of verticals in the background on the window frames so I'd have used those as reference. Having said that, it's what looks right in the end that matters. I get the feel it needs a little more CW rotation. I'd probably give is a little extra sharpening as well.

Quoting Patich (Reply 29):
Over-sharpened
Overexposed


It is a little sharp on my screen, the cheat lines are very jagged. You may need to selectively sharpen the aircraft and not sharpen the cheat lines. For me, it's not overexposed, that rejection reason is a little misleading. It's just a little too bright for this site. Reduce the exposure a little and you should be fine.

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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:32 pm

Hello guys

Today I´ve tried something different. Comments please

Pre-screening
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/m1353191191.1619img_2265-2.jpg

Thanks
Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:29 am

What happened to the wheels? How are they hidden by the background grass? Or is the runway not actually the one in front?
Manny Gonzalez, Thrust Images.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:23 am

Quoting Patich (Reply 31):
Today I´ve tried something different. Comments please

Not sure what is different about it, but the missing wheels will be an issue, as it was avoidable, and it is oversharpened.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:39 am

I should have been more specific in my previous post. You are both right. Sorry for that.

The difference in the photo was the lower speed, but with the wheels issue I´ll scrap this one.

Thanks
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:02 pm

Hello

I would like your opinion on this photo in general and, for future reference, if the aircraft is allowed to be offcenter to the left because of the follow-me

Pre-screening
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/z1353786949.2103img_2532-1.jpg

Thanks
Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:00 am

Quoting Patich (Reply 35):
I would like your opinion on this photo

Centering should be ok, but there are exposure (high) and contrast (low) issues.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:48 pm

Ok Dana

Made some corrections on exposure and contrast.
Did I get it right??

Pre-scennning
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/o1353872665.6504img_2532-2.jpg

Thx again
Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:09 pm

Quoting Patich (Reply 37):
Made some corrections on exposure and contrast.
Did I get it right??

Better, but the light is still pretty poor.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:44 pm

One last try.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/g1353882933.6681img_2532-3.jpg

Maybe I´m aiming too high with this one.

Thx
Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:42 am

Quoting Patich (Reply 39):
One last try.

As above. Better than the first, but the light is quite poor.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:38 pm

Hello

I would like your comments on this one.
I like it because of the condesation in the engine, but the sun was high and in front.
Does it stand a chance? (and do you see it oversharped?)

Pre-screening
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/t1355002296.8976img_2914-02.jpg

Thanks
Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:35 am

Quoting Patich (Reply 41):
Does it stand a chance? (and do you see it oversharped?)

Sharpening seems ok, but look a little flat & noisy.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:57 pm

Hello,

Made another edit to the Angola to correct contrast anf NR.

Is it ok?

Pre-screening
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/x1355432046.9565img_2914-2.jpg

Thx again
Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:07 am

Quoting Patich (Reply 43):
Is it ok?

Should be passable.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:55 pm

Hello

Happy hollidays to all.

I need your opinion on this one.
It´s another try on low shutter speed photo

Pre-screening
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/c1356270810.3088img_3829-1.jpg

Thx
Bruno
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:32 am

Quoting Patich (Reply 45):
It´s another try on low shutter speed photo

Sorry, more than a few severe problems with this one.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:14 pm

Hello

Wish you all a happy new year with everything you desire.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 46):
Sorry, more than a few severe problems with this one.

Lets just forget I showed you that one, ok...?

Now I need help with this one:

Post-screening
- Level (no cw or ccw mention)
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ame=j1356293798.3381img_0732-1.jpg

I zoomed the photo and the edges of the houses seem ok.

Thx
And again a happy 2013
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:34 pm

Quoting Patich (Reply 47):
Post-screening
- Level

Looks like it needs a little cw.

Quoting Patich (Reply 47):
(no cw or ccw mention)

Sorry about that. I'll try and remind the screener he should be leaving personal messages with level rejections.
 
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RE: Pre And Post Screening (Patich)

Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:27 pm

Hello again

I would like your opinion on this one.
I can´t say i´m happy with this edit but i´m failing to see where to improve.

This was yesterday and was a huge, really huge, surprise as Condor don´t fly here to Lisbon. It was a medical emergency almost at lunch time with a very high sun.

Pre-screening:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ady/a1357247573.2096img_4225-1.jpg

Thx
Bruno

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