riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

Post-Screening(Riflex)

Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:17 pm

Hello,

So I have sent this image which got rejected due to being grainy:

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ename=p1350399687.9106img_6031.jpg

The first 2 rejections were mainly because it was soft, which I corrected by giving it some sharping(to the whole picture).
In my opinion I think it's exagerated because I don't see almost any grain. I would like to ask for some opinion(s) to see what can I do to improve the image  

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:28 pm

Quoting riflex (Thread starter):
So I have sent this image which got rejected due to being grainy:

There's a slight amount of noise in the shadows. Should be easy to fix. Noise often get introduced to an image when you sharpen it, so you shouldn't be totally surprised.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:29 am

Hello,

Thanks for your help! I'm aware that images can get noisy but in this particular case I didn't think it would get rejected because of grain.
So all I have to do is to select the shadows and remove some noise?

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:32 am

Quoting riflex (Reply 2):
So all I have to do is to select the shadows and remove some noise?

Yes, that should take care of the noise, but it does also still look a little soft to me.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:34 am

Hm...I'll give it a little more sharp then and fix the noise in the shadows. Thank you once again for your help!  
Nuno Faria
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:25 pm

Dana, a quick question again about the noise removal:

I've used: Strenght 6, preserved 80% of the details, reduced 5% of color noise and sharpen details are at 25%. I'm note sure if I should be a bit more "harsh" in treating the photo...

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/v1351261411.6077img_60312.jpg
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:29 pm

To be honest, I don't see much difference between this one and the rejected; on the other hand, the rejected doesn't need much adjustment, so just be sure you don't overdo it.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:52 pm

Right...I've corrected again, this time: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/t1351266654.7713img_60312.jpg
This time I diminished the details a bit more to 55%.
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:16 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 7):
Right...I've corrected again

You've removed the previous version, so I can't really compare. The difference between this and the rejected seems also slight.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:14 am

Well...it's getting more challenging than I expected   how about this: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/e1351300300.565img_60312.jpg

The link doesn't appear since I'm uploading the pictures again deleting the previous one but I guess the best picture to compare is the first one that got rejected.
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:56 am

Quoting riflex (Reply 9):
how about this:

I don't see noise being an issue for that one.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:08 am

Allright then, I'll give it a go   let's see the results...thank you again for your help!
Nuno Faria
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:39 pm

Hello again.

Got this one rejected because it was high in frame and high contrast:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ename=p1350920165.4716img_4808.jpg
The contrast I agree, the centered reason...it's sort of confusing. The aircraft body is in the middle, I even lowered a bit because of the tail but still wasn't enough.

I also wanted to ask for some opinion about these 3:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/k1351700696.5975img_4875.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/q1351702050.0869img_5867.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/s1351705080.9171img_5948.jpg

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:05 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 12):
Got this one rejected because it was high in frame

Looks a bit high to me.

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/2779/20121031p13509201654716.jpg

Quoting riflex (Reply 12):
I also wanted to ask for some opinion about these 3:

All soft/blurry to varying degrees, especially the second. The first might also not be fixable, as it looks like heat haze.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:23 pm

Ah, now I understand better the centering   thank you for showing me that. I'll fix it in no-time.

About the other 3 pictures, I'll eliminate the first 2. The 3rd one...it seems that the nose needs a bit of sharpening. Is there any other area I should fix?
Nuno Faria
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:38 pm

Fixed version of the Air Italy, I had to give a bigger crop or the aircraft would be again high in frame:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/s1351708638.7947img_4808.jpg
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:33 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 15):
Fixed version of the Air Italy

Centering looks fine, though the contrast is still harsh, and looking again it might need a bit of cw rotation.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:54 pm

Hello,

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/e1351813789.9148img_4808.jpg
Gave some CW rotation and took care of the harsh contrast.

I'd like to ask an opinion also about this one:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/a1351706511.4969img_7637.jpg
The first rejection was also because of too much contrast.

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sun Nov 04, 2012 1:57 pm

Hi,

Got this one rejected this time because the sky was noisy and not only the aircraft shadows:

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ename=e1351300300.565img_60312.jpg

Is it worth appealing?
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:09 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 18):
Got this one rejected this time because the sky was noisy and not only the aircraft shadows:

I do see a bit in the sky, but it's not that bad.

Quoting riflex (Reply 17):
Gave some CW rotation and took care of the harsh contrast.

Definitely still needs cw rotation, and contrast still a bit harsh.

Quoting riflex (Reply 17):
The first rejection was also because of too much contrast.

Also still a bit dark/contrasty.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:42 pm

Hello,

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/g1352050399.0421img_4808.jpg
Used one of the buildings to try and line-up the horizont, still I'm not sure if it will work. I had to give a negative contrast.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/a1352050830.4247img_7637.jpg
Less contrast, more light!  

Thanks for your help so far Dana!

Regards

[Edited 2012-11-04 09:43:07]
Nuno Faria
 
dazbo5
Posts: 2717
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:05 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:52 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 20):
Used one of the buildings to try and line-up the horizont, still I'm not sure if it will work.

It still looks to need some CW rotation to me.

Quoting riflex (Reply 20):
Less contrast, more light!

but unlevel and needing some CW rotation.

Darren
Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:56 am

Hi,

Thanks for your reply Darren!

Corrected the B737 again:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/o1352076785.8645img_4808.jpg

About the A340, I'm not sure because I lined the horizon according to the airport lamps, it was the best reference in the picture.

Fixed noisy sky, I think this time it's ok.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/a1352080410.9584img_6031.jpg

[Edited 2012-11-04 17:55:14]
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:11 am

Quoting riflex (Reply 22):
Corrected the B737 again:

Level still off, and looking flat & soft now.

Quoting riflex (Reply 22):
Fixed noisy sky, I think this time it's ok.

Should be ok.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:13 pm

Hello,


Gave more CW rotation but now I'm not sure if it's the right level...
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/c1352128320.6431img_4808.jpg

There's an antenna close to the nose of the aircraft, should I use it to line-up the horizon?
Nuno Faria
 
dazbo5
Posts: 2717
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:05 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 05, 2012 3:43 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 24):
Gave more CW rotation but now I'm not sure if it's the right level...

Are you sure you gave it CW rotation? It looks like you gave it CCW rotation to me. It needs to be rotated more to the right, not left.

Quoting riflex (Reply 24):
There's an antenna close to the nose of the aircraft, should I use it to line-up the horizon?

That, and the buildings in the background.

Darren
Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:00 pm

Hello,

Using the antenna to line the horizon, the photo turns out like this:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/d1352131019.7769img_4808.jpg

I was rotating to the right(CW) in the previous fixes. With this fix the photo got a slight CCW.
Nuno Faria
 
dazbo5
Posts: 2717
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:05 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:54 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 26):
the photo turns out like this:

That looks much more like it level wise.

Darren
Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:28 pm

Allright!   thanks for your help! I just hope it's not too soft.
Nuno Faria
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:14 pm

Hello,

Would like to ask about this photo:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/p1352218106.7073img_8179.jpg

Not sure about: sharp, nose soft, heat haze.

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dazbo5
Posts: 2717
Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:05 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:19 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 29):
Not sure about: sharp, nose soft, heat haze.

This doesn't have the quality for here. There's heat haze and it's quite soft towards the front.

Darren
Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:45 pm

I was afraid of that. Well...instead of that one, I'll try this:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/h1352223830.8523img_8132.jpg

Thanks for your help again Darren  

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:33 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 31):
I'll try this:

Quality is ok, but verging on being backlit.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:11 pm

Hello Dana,

I had that in attention, I chose the photo with most light possible(the reflection of the piano keys of the runway in this case). Let's see if it makes it  
Nuno Faria
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:59 pm

Hello,

Would like to ask an opinion on this picture again:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ename=l1351709125.1321img_5948.jpg

Got rejected due to being oversharped and dark.
I only did one modification on this photo since the previous rejection(rejected for being soft only) which was a bit more sharpness in the nose zone.

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:47 am

Quoting riflex (Reply 34):
Got rejected due to being oversharped and dark.

Oversharpened? Can't see that. It's not dark so much as the contrast is a little harsh (which makes certain areas look darker). Try reducing the contrast a little, and also brightening just slightly, and see how it looks.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:11 pm

Hi Dana,

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/j1352560173.5157img_5948.jpg
Done the corrections on the contrast and gave a bit of bright to the picture.

Would like to ask about this one I forgot:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...ename=m1351707125.7118img_7474.jpg

Also rejected because it was oversharped and dark(I may agree with this last one).

To finish, do you think this one has a chance?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/j1352563421.3308img_6101.jpg

First time I uploaded it was rejected only because it was soft(I only sharped the aircraft), at the second time I sharped the whole picture and the rejection reasons increased: blurry, dark, soft, etc...

Regards and thanks for your help again  

[Edited 2012-11-10 08:07:03]
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:08 am

Quoting riflex (Reply 36):
Done the corrections on the contrast and gave a bit of bright to the picture.

Still seems a bit dark.

Quoting riflex (Reply 36):
Would like to ask about this one I forgot:

Again, the 'dark' rejection comes from the poor light/contrast, not necessarily underexposure.

Quoting riflex (Reply 36):
To finish, do you think this one has a chance?

No, sorry, quality looks quite poor.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:21 am

Hello,

Fixed the 757 with more bright, I just hope I didn't exagerated this time:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/m1352603763.2387img_5948.jpg

Also for the Turkish same thing, more bright and a bit less of contrast:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/s1352604013.2358img_7474.jpg

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:32 pm

Like I said above for both: it's not really the exposure that is the problem, it's the poor contrast. I think the first is more fixable, but you will be able to do that by adjusting the levels/contrast more than by just increasing the exposure.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:04 am

Hello Dana,

Well, instead of increasing the bright, I used the levels as you said:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/q1352682215.0774img_5948.jpg
Tried not to exagerade since it was only needed a small correction  

Regards!
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:04 am

Quoting riflex (Reply 40):
I used the levels as you said:

Contrast/exposure is better, though I can't really compare to the older versions as you seem to have removed them. This one is also starting to look a little soft & noisy.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:18 pm

Hi Dana,

Made a few corrections to the 757, this time we can compare  
Old version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9001755...182570943/in/photostream/lightbox/

Fixed version: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...84.2414img_5948comsharpnomotor.jpg
I fixed the noise below the wings and in the sky and added an extra sharp to the engine with the titles but not sure if there's anything missing.

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 42):
Made a few corrections to the 757

Should be ok now.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:30 pm

Thanks for your help on the 757 Dana  

Would like to ask about this one, I'm still a rookie in night pictures: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...29420.307519dejaneirode2011031.jpg

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:42 pm

Quoting riflex (Reply 44):
Would like to ask about this one

It's soft and noisy.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:27 pm

Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:25 am

Quoting riflex (Reply 46):
Fixed version:

Don't see much difference. On second look, it could also be brightened a bit.
 
riflex
Topic Author
Posts: 100
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:14 am

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:24 am

Hello Dana,

Old version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/90017555@N02/8192069994/lightbox/ (I forgot to save the picture that I fixed after this one)

Fixed version: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...95224.632419dejaneirode2011031.jpg


Also would like to ask if you think this one has any chance or if it's possible to fix: http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...ready/a1353293626.1412img_5174.jpg

Regards
Nuno Faria
 
dlowwa
Posts: 7168
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2005 4:17 pm

RE: Post-Screening(Riflex)

Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:32 am

Quoting riflex (Reply 48):
Fixed version:

This one looks noisy and blurry/oversharpened.

Quoting riflex (Reply 48):
Also would like to ask if you think this one has any chance or if it's possible to fix:

Don't think so, the quality looks quite poor.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest