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Pre Screening - Whales

Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:34 pm

Hello

Please could I get some feedback on the photo below, it was taken in the evening, and there was a lot of cloud around. I am not sure about the lighting and the contrast mainly. If there is anything please let me know.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8062/8182938500_68ff9d58c9_b.jpg
ZS-SJL13NOV12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:11 pm

Quoting whales (Thread starter):
Please could I get some feedback on the photo below

You're right, the light isn't the best. It's also oversharpened.
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:27 am

Hi Dana

Thank you for your reply, if I reduced the sharpening, would the light be passable?

Thanks

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Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:01 pm

Quoting whales (Reply 2):
if I reduced the sharpening, would the light be passable?

Probably not, it's pretty poor.
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:46 pm

Hi Dana

Thank you for your advice, I will put it in the personal album.

I have 2 photos below which I would like feed back on please.

1. Level, I have used the horizon for this, but am not sure about it, and anything else.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8488/8185718031_0070188b0d_b.jpg
ZS-OKG14NOV12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]


2. Motive, the pilot and co pilot are doing pre flight checks would this be cause for motive? and anything else please.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8185724851_53bdf52cc5_b.jpg
Z-YXV31OCT12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]


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Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:41 pm

Quoting whales (Reply 4):
1. Level

Level ok, but there are some quality issues (ovesharpened, noise)

Quoting whales (Reply 4):
Motive, the pilot and co pilot are doing pre flight checks would this be cause for motive?

Better without them, but should be passable with. As with the window view, it is oversharpened.
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:05 pm

Thanks for the replies Dana, I have been away for 3 weeks after an op, but am back again.

I have another 3 photos I would like some general feed back on, which of 1 or 2 would be better for upload?

1.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8339/8185897696_612859b291_b.jpg
Z-YXV01NOV12a by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

2.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8185893864_7bb8977d2c_b.jpg
Z-YXV14NOV121 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

3.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8480/8244318017_66bfb63d4b_b.jpg
ZU-SEA03DEC121a by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:43 am

Quoting whales (Reply 6):
which of 1 or 2 would be better

Both have harsh light, but it's worse on the second. First is noticeably oversharpened. Third also a bit overexposed/harsh light.
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:41 am

Thanks Dana for your help, I will drop the second and try and rework 1 and 3.

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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:36 pm

Hello

I have a couple of photos that I would like some feed back on.

1. I am not sure about the contrast and any other problems

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8337/8248158030_f7418df90e_b.jpg
ZS-OKK15OCT12b by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]


2. General feed back for this one please.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8199/8245444338_5ef2f3ef33_b.jpg
ZS-PMV03DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:32 am

Nice shots! I especially like the first one  
The second one seems unlevel (judging the horizon), but looks fine otherwise(?)
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:40 am

Quoting whales (Reply 9):

2. General feed back for this one please.

Looks like very harsh light, as mentioned above. Also looks a bit dark up front and soft, especially towards the registration. Might need a bit of CCW, also.
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Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:12 am

Quoting whales (Reply 9):
1. I am not sure about the contrast and any other problems

Bit flat & noisy, also slight orange tinge. May be fixable.

Quoting whales (Reply 9):
2. General feed back for this one please.

Overexposed, verging on blown out in some areas. Not sure what horizon the others are seeing, all I see are trees, so the level is probably best left as you have it.
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:53 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 12):
Not sure what horizon the others are seeing

I wasn't basing the level off the horizon, because as you said there isn't one. I just thought it looked a little leany. One of those eye things, I wasn't basing my level off any object.  
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:11 am

Thanks everyone for the comments, I will work on them when I am back at my desk top.

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Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:12 am

Hi

I have another 2 photos, for general feed back, and which of the 2 would be better for A.net?

1.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8504/8256235575_a0b0113681_b.jpg
ZS-OKK09DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

2.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8357/8256256725_69887f5c72_b.jpg
ZS-OKK09DEC121 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]


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Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:37 am

Quoting whales (Reply 15):
which of the 2 would be better for A.net?

Don't see a large difference between the two, so that would be up to you.
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:09 pm

Thanks Dana.

I have another photo which I not sure about the level, I have used 2 poles to the right of the 738, and any other issues with the photo.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8075/8262172372_14525d136a_b.jpg
ZS-SNC10DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:52 pm

Quoting whales (Reply 17):
I have another photo

Level, maybe a touch ccw. Also oversharpened.
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:15 pm

Thanks Dana

I will attend to it.

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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:43 pm

Hi

I have the photo below, and was wondering if it stood any chance at all, as the light is harsh.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8210/8265174618_d5af541c77_b.jpg
ZS-SND11DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

I have another photo here and was wanting general feedback and was wondering about motive?

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8265338228_17599cea69_b.jpg
3B-NAY11DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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[Edited 2012-12-11 12:05:39]
 
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Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:28 pm

Quoting whales (Reply 20):
I have the photo below, and was wondering if it stood any chance at all

You -might- be able to get a decent edit out of it, but it's quite oversharpened and noisy as it is.

Quoting whales (Reply 20):
I have another photo

Would definitely benefit from a 3:4 crop instead of 2:3, and there are some minor quality issues (noise, contrast).
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:56 pm

Hi Dana

Thanks for the reply, I am reworking them.

I have another photo below and was wondering if there was any of getting on? It is backlit.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8342/8285204024_99aaebc4e6_b.jpg
ET-AOQ17DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:09 pm

Nice shot, but I don't think it has a shot due to being backlit, as the sky is almost blown out and also all of the obstructions (ie, wing and box in the upper right.)
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:00 pm

It has chance if you can fix the contrast (too low), and dial-down the sharpening, which is quite strong.
 
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:11 pm

So it can be fixed even with that box in the upper right? But, Andrew's photo for a slight gear block is rejected. Now that confuses me, just saying, I think that's a bit harsh. I like the photo a lot, but when we are getting rejections for having +1 too much contrast, that gets accepted with the wing in the way and that box along with a marginally blown out sky?
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:26 pm

Quoting DL747 (Reply 25):
But, Andrew's photo for a slight gear block is rejected. Now that confuses me

Perhaps you should read the motive rules then. Aircraft obstructed = motive. The aircraft is not obstructed above.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 25):
So it can be fixed
Quoting DL747 (Reply 25):
that gets accepted

I said it would have a chance.

If you have nothing constructive to add, perhaps it would be better if you refrained from posting.
 
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Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:33 pm

First off, I have read the motive rules, as you yourself suggested earlier, also, the gear obstruction was barely noticeable. I think these obstructions are distracting, imho. I did have constructive criticism in my first reply. And, I will refrain from posting, I meant no disrespect or bad intentions, I just think it is a bit confusing and I think it should be changed.
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Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:59 pm

Thanks Dana

I will try work on what you have said. I have another photo below taken in very bright conditions what do you think?

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8478/8287141009_7876fd8b56_b.jpg
Z-WGW14NOV12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:13 am

Quoting whales (Reply 28):
I have another photo

A little overexposed and oversharpened.
 
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:25 pm

Hi Dana

Thanks again Dana I will work on it. I have another below and am not sure about motive.


[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8497/8293811473_612f894b51_b.jpg
ZS-OTF21DEC12 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:06 am

Quoting whales (Reply 30):
I have another below and am not sure about motive.

Kind of interesting motive, but would likely need more opinions. However, multiple severe quality issues that would need to be sorted (if even possible) first.
 
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Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:59 am

Hi Dana

Thanks for your help and advice on the Air Mauritius photo in reply 20, it was accepted today. Also a big thank you for all your help and advice throughout 2012, it has been very much appreciated. I hope 2013 is a great year for you.

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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:29 pm

Hi All

I had this rejected for contrast to start with, I added more contrast. It was then rejected for level, it said cw needed, I appealed it, but have not recieved the email, but still says level, and they have added contrast again. I do not believe there is anything wrong with the level, I have used the posts as my levelling measur as they have the most amount of area to work with. Is this site wanting us to use protractors now? If it is out, it is no more than 0.05 of a degree out! I have double checked in CS5 with the grids, and it showing as level. The contrast does it need more or less?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...t1356508243.471c9-aum06dec121b.jpg


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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:29 pm

Hi All

I have also had the following photo rejected for level, quality, noise, oversharpened and dark. I do not see any of the rejection reasons, please can I have some help. If I brighten the picture, the fuselage will then be done for overexposed, the level according to the tower in back ground in the middle of the photo is showing it is level.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._x1356507546.5984zs-sxa26dec12.jpg

Below I have attempted a re edit. What do you think?

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8356/8342451047_f4517b8aeb_b.jpg
ZS-SXA03JAN13 by whaleszim, on Flickr[/img]

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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:14 pm

Hi All

Another rejection, quality and soft. Quality rejection is such a vague rejection, even in the rejection guide. It would help if the screener elaborated on the quality, like they do with contrast and level and added a personal note. Is this picture salvageable? Please could you also tell me where it is soft.

http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...v1356555235.0473zs-oag26dec12a.jpg

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Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:22 am

Quoting whales (Reply 33):
I had this rejected for contrast to start with, I added more contrast.

Looks like it needs more contrast and a little cw rotation.

Quoting whales (Reply 34):
I have also had the following photo rejected for level, quality, noise, oversharpened and dark. I do not see any of the rejection reasons,

The only one I would disagree with is dark. The rest were justified, as the quality is quite poor.

Quoting whales (Reply 35):
Another rejection, quality and soft.

Looks a little noisy too. If no other info is given, you can take a 'quality' rejection to mean your photo is not really close to being acceptable.
 
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Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:17 pm

Hello

I had the photo below rejected for various reasons twice, but none included level, now on the 3rd attempt it is done for level, I appealed it, it was rejected again for level, saying it needed some CW rotation. I don't see it, and I don't know what they are judging the level on. Please could I get some advice on how level this and what to gauge it on.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r..._h1358270471.7145zs-okh15jan13.jpg

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Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:54 pm

Hi William,

Some of the bands in the sky at the horizon do look off-level, but that does not mean they necessarily should be. I don't know what I would do differently.

What else was it rejected for? To me it looks fairly noisy/grainy and there might be some reflections as well, so that might be a bigger issue than the leveling.

It's a very nice shot, though!

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Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:24 am

Kind of lost with what they would be judging the level on, I don' think you can judge level on clouds. They aren't always parallel to the horizon. I will let a screener explain that. The noise is pretty apparent and I am surprised it wasn't rejected for that as well.
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RE: Pre Screening - Whales

Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:30 pm

Hello again.

I was wondering if a screener would be able to help me out with my question above.

Thanks

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