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Post Screening JK Photos

Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:40 am

Hi guys,

i want to start a general thread form myself, so that I don't need to open another thread for every problem.

I had some rejections last night. Bus as I these were my first night shots, I was more or less expecting it.
I am already happy that the colours were allright!


But I do have some questions where I need your help:

This one was rejected for:
contrast level (needs CE rotation) personal
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...53249929.7298img_4043_crop_air.jpg

Contrast: Yes, okay. Soft: Well yes, can someone tell me where it is soft?
But why does it need a CW rotation? I adjusted the levels looking at the lamp posts and it seems allright for me.

This one was rejected for levels as well (and also for soft and contrast).
I can understand it in this case, but where do I need to orientate myself in this case in order to have a correct level?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...3250028.8448img_4072_d_cropair.jpg

I am looking forward to your responses in order to improve my night shots.
I am still learning.

Many thanks!

regards

Jay
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:15 pm

Quoting JKPhotos (Thread starter):
This one was rejected for:
contrast level (needs CE rotation) personal

I can see a little CW (not CE?) to level the verticals, and definitely some more contrast.

Quoting JKPhotos (Thread starter):
This one was rejected for levels as well (and also for soft and contrast).

Not really any reference points for level, so I don't think there is much to base it on, though I admit it would look better with CCW rotation.

Both images would benefit from being submitted at a smaller size as well.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:35 pm

Hi,

many thanks for your response. CE was a tiping mistake, sorry for that, I meant CW of course.

I took care of your advice and adjusted my pictures.

Here is the new version of the Lufthansa:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...4051735.173img_4043_a1cropanet.jpg

and here the new version of the Niki:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...847.9487img_4072_cropair_final.jpg

and yes I agree that the level looks better now.

Are they allright now? Is the contrast okay?

Regards

Jay
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:38 pm

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 2):
Are they allright now? Is the contrast okay?

To be honest, the light on the LH was never that great to begin with, so it will be borderline no matter what you do with it. The Niki looks ok now.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:32 am

Thanks for your honesty, I deleted the LH from the upload queue..no problem.


I have a question on this one:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...53708319.5156img_4132_cropanet.jpg

Does it need more contrast, too?

Regards
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:39 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 4):
Does it need more contrast, too?

Contrast should be ok, but if possible give it a bit of ccw rotation and place it slightly higher in the frame.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:57 am

I will do so and upload it again!


Many thanks!
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:30 pm

I just had another rejection:

Reason: blue cast:
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/...135621.4199img_4089a1_pla1anet.jpg

It was not mentioned in the first rejection, but anyway I do see the point. Also I think it has only slightly a blue cast.

How do you see it?
What would bei the best way to remove the blue cast?

I am thankful for some help.

Regards,

Jay
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:00 pm

Yes, the aircraft in the photo looks a bit blue to me, I would edit the whitebalance in the raw file. If you only have a jpeg, try editing the color balance.
Just like the shirt says, Boeing Builds It Better!
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:10 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 7):
What would bei the best way to remove the blue cast?

Adjust the white balance.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:30 am

Thanks for your response.
Yeah I was shooting in RAW, so i willl try to adjust the whitebalance and afterwards post the result here.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:29 pm

Finally I got my hands on the AF again.

Here is the new version
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...24512.8346img_4089a1_pla1anet2.jpg

Does it still has a colour cast?

I think it looks better now.

Any other issues that came up with my new edit?

Thanks again!

[Edited 2012-12-14 14:32:40]

[Edited 2012-12-14 14:36:10]
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:15 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 11):
Here is the new version

Tough one...still looks a little green/cyan, but not too bad. Other than that, you've done pretty well for a night shot.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:59 pm

HI Dana,

thanks for your nice comment!

I made another slight change to the colour balance and hopefully it is passable now
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...76067.2248img_4089a1_pla1anet3.jpg

I think at least the green cast is almost gone now.

I will delete yesterday's version shortly. I just left it in the upload queue to have a comparison.

Regards

[Edited 2012-12-15 05:02:13]
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:48 pm

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 13):
I made another slight change to the colour balance and hopefully it is passable now

Whites still don't look quite white. If you want to send me the original, I can give it a try.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:12 pm

Thanks. I just send you a message.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:00 pm

Will take a look and let you know.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:48 pm

Hi,

just got this picture rejected:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...5578919.0629img_0369-anetfinal.jpg

Reason: low in frame.

Do you really consider this as being low in frame?

I wanted to ask this question for quite a time now: for me the tail is part of the aircraft, too. So in this case it would be centered as it is. Only if you just look at the fuselage it could be considered low in frame.
Otherwise there is roughly the same space above and under the aircraft.

So should I focus the centering (crop) more on the fuselage?


Thanks
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:13 pm

Yes focus on the fuselage, looks a lot better if you do, dont worry too much about the tail.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:34 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 17):
Do you really consider this as being low in frame?

Maybe a touch, but not by much. Just needs a small adjustment I think.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:11 am

Just worked on some shots.

I am not sure about this one:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...494584.2256img_4077a_acropfina.jpg

Are the colours okay (I have to say that the apron light is quite orange in reality,too) ?
What about the levels?
Is the light in the BA-titles disturbing?


and this one is for Dana.
Here is the edit of the AF I came up with.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...1357305277.6093img_4089cropnew.jpg
The blue cast is gone, isn't it?


As always thank you very much for your help, I appreciate it.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:40 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 20):
I am not sure about this one:

Maybe a touch yellow, but bigger problem is it looks pretty washed out.

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 20):
Here is the edit of the AF I came up with.

Better than the previous.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:53 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 21):

Maybe a touch yellow, but bigger problem is it looks pretty washed out.

I reduced the saturation, because I felt the colours looked too strong before. Possibly this was a mistake and is the reason why it looks washed out?


And I did brighten it to some extent to avoid a dark rejection.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:38 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 22):
Possibly this was a mistake and is the reason why it looks washed out?

Could be. Adding some contrast might help.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:06 pm

Thanks. I will try with a new edit!
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:23 pm

so here is the new edit:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...7665615.3861img_4077a_acropnet.jpg

The washed out effect should be gone?

Any other issues that came up?
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:41 pm

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 25):
so here is the new edit:

Better, but will still be borderline as it's somewhat backlit.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:26 am

Hi guys,

I took some deicing shots yesterday.

Problem was, it was snowing at that time.

I'm afraid that because of the falling snow visible in the sky it could be considered as grainy?!
here is one example:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...60068.2477img_4441_e1cropfinal.jpg

Would it help me to include a comment that it was snowing?
Or does it have no chance?

Thanks.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:43 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 27):
I'm afraid that because of the falling snow visible in the sky it could be considered as grainy?!

No, grainy should not be an issue.

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 27):
Would it help me to include a comment that it was snowing?

That would be a good idea.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:52 am

Hi Dana,

thanks. It is the first time I shot in such conditions. So I thought it would be better to ask than waiting 8 days only to get it rejected.

I will add a comment.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:20 pm

Another question:

Would this be a motive rejection? (Because of the deicing truck)
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...532747.7137img_4428a2cropfinal.jpg

I saw other pictures on the site with deicing-trucks, so I guess in some cases they might be accaptable even if they block certain areas of the aircraft.

Still I am not sure on this one, although I definitely like the picture.

Worth a try? Or not.

Looking forward for your opinions on this one.
Thanks.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:55 pm

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 30):
Would this be a motive rejection?

Generally better if the vehicle is not blocking anything important (gear, engine), but the motive may be sufficiently interesting here to make an exception. I would be ok with it, but couldn't promise everyone else would be.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:18 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 31):
Generally better if the vehicle is not blocking anything important (gear, engine), but the motive may be sufficiently interesting here to make an exception

Thanks, I thought so, too.

I will have a try. If it gets accepted fine, if not it will stay a nice shot for my personal collection.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:40 am

Hi guys,

I was in AMS the last few days and had the opportunity for some photos.

I have some questions on these two

1.) KLM MD-11: Level? I adjusted the level according to the horizon. For me it looks okay, but I am not so sure if a screener would share this opinion.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...dy/g1360018355.73img_4535banet.jpg

2). Tails: Level okay? Crop okay?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...y/n1360013873.6024img_4542anet.jpg

Thanks in advance!

Cheers.

J
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:04 pm

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 33):
KLM MD-11: Level?

Ok.

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 33):
Level okay? Crop okay?

Yes. Yes, but only because of the tails in the background.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:59 pm

Hi Dana,

thank you very much for your kind feedback.

I actually found it hard to level the pictures, because there seem to be a lot of unlevelled lamp posts in Schiphol which can be quite confusing.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 34):

Yes. Yes, but only because of the tails in the background.

I therefore included it in the "tail" category.
So my last question:
Am I right to do so? (as it is not a full tail close-up)


Thanks!

[Edited 2013-02-06 11:14:12]
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:03 pm

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 35):
there seem to be a lot of unlevelled lamp posts in Schiphol which can be quite confusing.

If the horizon is visible, that will always trump any verticals such as lampposts.

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 35):
Am I right to do so?

No, this does not qualify for 'Tail' category.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:13 pm

Ok thanks, your answer avoided a category rejection for myself. Thank you very much!  
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:25 pm

Hi,

I tried myself at some window-shots during my last flight.

As trying to get a decent quality out of window shots is pretty new to me I am not so sure if they meet the required quality-standards:

What about the sharpening on this one? Any other things to improve?
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...eady/q1361827443.8514img_4780a.jpg

I am not so sure on the framing of this one. Schiphol Airport with several runways is visible but unfortunately the view was not very clear on that day.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...1361817196.6149img_4776_crop_a.jpg
Is the crop okay? What about the motive?

I know that it would be double. I want to go for just one of the two shots..or depending on the reactions leave them both for my personal gallery  

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Julien
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:28 pm

Sky is blotchy in both, and the first also seems to be suffering from some oversharpening/quality issues. Borderline motive on the second, but I suppose enough of the airport is visible to make it worthwhile.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:23 am

Hi

Well, yes sitting on another monitor makes me realise that in fact the sky is really quite blotchy on both (could've seen this myself). I will try to add some aditional noise reduction.

I will have a try with the second one.


Thank you very much for your input!
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:37 am

Hi,

After a long time I just had some soft rejections again.

EY Man City:
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...x1362346998.151img_4933a_final.jpg

QR
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...2346800.3408img_4903crop_final.jpg

Can somebody tell me where they are soft? I assume the EY could need some overall sharpening, whereas the QR gets softer towards the front.
Right?

As really I like those pictures I do want to rework on them.

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,

Julien
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:47 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 41):
assume the EY could need some overall sharpening, whereas the QR gets softer towards the front.
Right?

Yes, they both need just a little sharpening.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:51 am

Hi Dana,

Okay thanks, should be easily fixable then. Will do a new edit.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:29 am

Hi Guys,

hopefully I can get another feedback.

Made this shot yesterday.
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...64163680.0422img_5207cropfinal.jpg

It is levelled according to the horizon, but I am afraid that this might be a case where there is a difference in what is really level and what feels to be level, as the horizon is hardly visible due to the night-time.

So should I give it some CCW?

Thanks,

Julien
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:58 am

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 44):
So should I give it some CCW?

No, I don't think level should be an issue with this one.
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:04 am

Hi Dana,

thanks for your input!

Perhaps I am worrying too much about the levels right now 
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:27 am

Hi guys,

I have a short question on my newest shot.

I took it with the very last light of the day, almost at sunset, 3 Minutes later the sun was gone.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...401872.7675img_5255_crop_final.jpg
It is of course red / yellow, but given the time it was taken it is natural.

Would this be a colour problem (rejection) or is it still passable for anet standards the way it is?

Thanks for your advice.

Cheers,

Julien
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:29 am

Hi guys,

I made this shot on the approach to BCN, light was not perfect anymore as it was close to sunset.
But given the nice background I would like to make it workable.

This is the edit I came up with
http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...366146732.3149img_5267_b1_anet.jpg

Is is too dark for airliners-standards? Should I brighten it further?

Would it stand a chance with another edit?

thanks for your help and sorry If I am asking too much.

Julien
 
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RE: Post Screening JK Photos

Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:15 pm

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 47):
Would this be a colour problem (rejection) or is it still passable for anet standards the way it is?

No longer in the queue?

Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 48):
Is is too dark for airliners-standards? Should I brighten it further?

I would indeed suggest brightening it, along with adding a little contrast. The sky also looks fairly compressed, so you might want to check that.

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