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Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:03 pm

Ok so im having a bit of trouble getting my sharpening right so i thought id post a few in here till i about get it right. ive had a few rejections for over-sharpening. The first 2 were sharpened how i normally sharpen them but ive uploaded them already so might aswell leave them in! the second 2 pics have been sharpened less than i normally do. what do we reckon?

thanks

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...v1353970060.0096hawker850-bham.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...e1353694360.1637cess510-man-cw.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b.../f1353883622.9492lutha319-bham.jpg

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...1353918380.6902ryanbham-251112.jpg

i hope the links work.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:49 pm

First one looks mostly fine to me; the nose might be a bit soft.

Second one looks oversharpened in parts, especially on the cheatlines (I never sharpen cheatlines as much as other areas, because they tend to become oversharpened very quickly).

Having trouble telling about the third; looks slightly soft in spots, but maybe slightly oversharpened in others. Or maybe it's just right.  

Fourth one looks to me like it might be slightly blurry.

In all, I'd say you might have to consider that not all areas on the aircraft will need the same amount of sharpening. I have a pretty standard set of areas where I erase some of the sharpening, like cheatlines, wings/flaps, cockpit windows sometimes...
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:02 pm

sorry to sound silly but what are cheatlines?
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:10 pm

Vik is referencing the lines that run horizontally (ish) down the fuselage. Nice photos, by the way!
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:17 pm

ahh right thank you. sorry im a newbie too all this. And thanks for the kind comment  
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:45 pm

Quoting chriswade (Thread starter):
what do we reckon?

They all look fine.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:49 pm

Really? you have made my day. Thank you
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:03 am

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 5):
They all look fine.

Ack.....I really must remember not to reply to screening threads on my work monitor....  
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:11 am

haha dont worry about it. im on my home pc and cant spot half the stuff most people can  
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:07 am

Quoting chriswade (Reply 8):

Yeah, me too. But, hey, anet is cool, and we are all here to learn from the best in the business.
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:24 am

ok, i have a set that are all like these next photos and im a bit worried about how bright they are etc. what do you reckon?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswadereptiles/8238834067/lightbox/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswadereptiles/8239900728/lightbox/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswadereptiles/8238839209/lightbox/

Also ive seen a few tail shots be accepted. how about this one?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswadereptiles/8238839209/lightbox/

thanks

chris
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:28 am

Quoting chriswade (Reply 10):
what do you reckon?

They look ok.

Quoting chriswade (Reply 10):
ive seen a few tail shots be accepted. how about this one?

Seems the same as the third one above.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:30 am

 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:32 pm

Hi Chris,

Hope the lens is holding up well!

Nice tail shot but there's a lot of dead space - can you do a 4:3 crop, or even a portrait? Might make it look more balanced.

Karl
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:28 pm

Quoting chriswade (Reply 12):
this is the one.

A touch soft, but otherwise looks ok.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:44 pm

Thanks Karl ill try that  . Hope the trip went well.

ok thanks dlowwa. i cant see the soft myself but im useless :p
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:11 am

I decided to give the tail shot a miss as i really didnt like it myself anyway. These will be my next 2 uploads. im worried a little about the lighting on the Ryanair? and the Qatar is the first pic ive tried in that style.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswadereptiles/8242116179/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswadereptiles/8243184742/

Also a quick question. If i have a picture of an aircraft i wish to upload which was taken on the same day as someone else (i.e same aircraft reg and same day and already uploaded by them) is there any point me uploading it or will it be rejected for common?

Thanks

Chris
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:33 am

Quoting chriswade (Reply 16):
These will be my next 2 uploads.

They look fine.

Quoting chriswade (Reply 16):
If i have a picture of an aircraft i wish to upload which was taken on the same day as someone else (i.e same aircraft reg and same day and already uploaded by them) is there any point me uploading it or will it be rejected for common?

It will not be rejected for common for that reason.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:48 am

Thank you. That means i have more to upload now 
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:11 am

will this be rejected because of the reddish appearance? it was very early morning sun!

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...354311235.7572luthmanch-a320cw.jpg
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:10 am

Quoting chriswade (Reply 19):
will this be rejected because of the reddish appearance?

Should be ok.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:05 am

Was accepted. Thanks  
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:19 pm

Took this today but had wrong camera settings. Doh. Anyway im not sure if i got away with it etc. what do you reckon?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...147447.1776royjorcargo-emid-cw.jpg
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:37 pm

Looks fine to me. What do you mean by 'wrong settings'? They are only wrong if the resulting image is poor.

Karl
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:54 pm

i was a bit worried about the shiny front, also had it set too alfocus rather than alservo as was shooting stills before. Thanks karl, fingers crossed.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:17 pm

Chris,

The 'shiny front' is nothing more than the sun reflecting off the nose, which is perfectly acceptable. Don't worry about that.

AI servo and AI focus are similar, and both should work okay for a moving subject. Is the original file blurry or overly soft anywhere?

Karl
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:43 pm

nah seems fine  , had some lovely side on shots but were blurred   this was best of the bunch.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:34 pm

Were you using manual mode? I used to use manual all the time but it can really catch you out with the changeable UK weather! I tend to stick to Av these days (and occasionally Tv), which accounts for lighting changes a little better than full manual.

I still love manual but only tend to use it for static subjects these days - I've ruined far too many opportunities in the past by avoiding the semi-automatic modes.

Karl
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:57 pm

ive switched to using Av now. i ruined a fair few from that day in manchester with you because of manual mode.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:22 pm

Yeah, manual is great but you can't control the weather unfortunately. Luckily digital cameras are far more forgiving in the semi-automatic modes than their 35mm forerunners.

By the way, we have a great forecast up here for tomorrow!

Karl
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:01 pm

I wish karl but looking after the child tomorrow  
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:02 pm

Had this one rejected for Flat, needs a little more saturation, colour.

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...h1354635313.5424qatar-manch-cw.jpg

What you reckon? i thought was ok and so did dlowwa!
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:23 pm

Chris,

I can see what caused this rejection but it's a little harsh I think. The light's hitting the nose so I wouldn't expect the rest of the aircraft to be super-vibrant. I'd try an appeal and failing that, just add a touch of saturation (and maybe a pinch more contrast).

Karl
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:30 pm

Thanks karl. Being the noob i am to this editing business (although i have learnt so much in the past few months ive been doing it) explain in general how i add saturation and contrast and what im exactly looking for. sorry  
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:51 pm

Chris, appeal it first, see how you go on. If you get no joy I'll be happy to explain.

Karl
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:00 am

Have appealed anyway. Will let ya know. cheers karl.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:30 am

I appealed and still rejected. Comment was...Photo ok but colour a little washed out.

ahh well you win some, you lose some  
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:47 am

Yes, looks a bit washed out, and probably not the best light, but a very nice photo regardless. Does look flat to me, but not by a ton.
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:53 am

It just needs a bit more contrast, no? Should be fixable.

Quoting DL747 (Reply 37):

^ Why is the light not good? It illuminated the whole aircraft. I'd be happy with that light.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:09 am

Well, it is very head on it seems, and that may be why it looks washed out.
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:33 am

Thanks for the input guys, ill give it a try  
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:40 pm

Im struggling to decide which one of these 2 too add if anyone wishes to help me out?

This one: although does the BA world cargo logo look a little over sharpened?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswa...275218892/in/photostream/lightbox/

Or this one but im worries about the crop and angle etc:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswa...274157127/in/photostream/lightbox/

Thanks

chris
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:50 pm

Quoting chriswade (Reply 41):
a little over sharpened?

Just a little, yes.

Quoting chriswade (Reply 41):
Or this one but im worries about the crop and angle etc:

Both are fine.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:41 am

Thank you   will upload the second as i prefer it.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:35 pm

Cant decide on which one of these too upload? mainly due to the crops.

Will this be rejected for motive as only 2 visible engines?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswa...290712449/in/photostream/lightbox/

this is my fave and the one i want to upload but worried about where the crop is on the right hand side through the engine?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswa...291768560/in/photostream/lightbox/

or play safe and use this one?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriswa...290712277/in/photostream/lightbox/

thanks
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:23 pm

Quoting chriswade (Reply 44):
Will this be rejected for motive as only 2 visible engines?

No.

Quoting chriswade (Reply 44):
worried about where the crop is on the right hand side through the engine?

Better to include the whole engine; this crop is a bit unattractive.

Quoting chriswade (Reply 44):
play safe and use this one?

Crop is fine.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:05 pm

ok thank you i will go with the safe one as the cropped front one is where the picture ends anyway. Thanks dlowwa as always  
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:40 pm

Just had this rejected for high in frame? personally i think with the angle that it is about right. the nose and fuselage is below the centreline. what do you think?

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/r...226_l1355907121.5692klm-man-cw.jpg
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:43 pm

Quoting chriswade (Reply 47):
what do you think?

Yes, quite high in the frame.
 
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RE: Pre_screening (Christopher Wade)

Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:12 am

Was dreading you saying that :P. ok thank you will move down.

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