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Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Wed Feb 14, 2001 4:04 pm

I am young (16) but an avid aviation enthusiast. My favorite plane is the Tristar, and I would be so jazzed if I could get into the cockpit. Is this possible during flight (would I ask the F/A?), or should I just wait until after the flight has landed to peep my head in?

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mhsieh
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Thu Feb 15, 2001 8:42 am

US airlines are not permitted to allow non-crew members to enter the cockpit while the aircraft is in motion (FAA regulation). Some foreign carriers do not have this restriction so it is at the captain's discretion. I have personally been in the cockpit (several times staying for the landing) on Singapore Air, Japan Airlines, Canadian Pacific, Air Canada, Malaysian Airlines. If you ask a nice FA, there is pretty good chance you will get to visit at some point during the flight. It's best to ask after meal service is complete and a movie is showing so they have the time to escort you up. Bottom line, you got nothing to lose...the worst that can happen is they'll say no.
 
tim
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Thu Feb 15, 2001 10:14 am

I have no problems getting into the cockpit and jumpseat for landing on Qantas. I allways ask the FA first and show them my licence and that im learning to fly etc.

Last time on QF I didnt even have to ask to stay for the landing up front.

Regards
Tim

 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Thu Feb 15, 2001 3:24 pm


You won't have luck inflight on US American Airlines as Mhsieh has already mentioned.
I have had the pleassure aboard Canada 3000, Lufthansa, Air France, Condor though.

Rgds,
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Fri Feb 16, 2001 3:04 am

I have the pleasure of flying jumpseat three times, and all were amazing. My first time was in a TAP L1011-500 landing in Montreal, take-off from Montreal, then landing in Toronto. That flight was coming back from Lisbon, and I was about 13 years old at the time.

Last summer, I flew jumpseat on a Royal A310 during the take off from Madrid and landing in Toronto. Last week, I flew the whole flight in the jumpseat of a Royal A310 from TOronto to Malaga.

If you get the chance, it is an amazing experience.
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Fri Feb 16, 2001 8:04 am

First, There are certain people who would not be considered crew members to fly jumpseat. ATC personnel, and dispatched have jumpseat access. It is possible to get a jumpseat authorization for an flight on an US Carrier, but it is very involved. You first must identfy the POI, or Princepal Operating Inspector of the Airline, I got it throught the Chief Pilot. After writing the letter, include Flight Number, Times, Places of Dep and Arr, and why you are requesting this approval. If it is accepted it will be sent to you in letter form as an authorization for those flights. I have done it several times to jumpseat with my dad, it's a stretch if you don't know any of the flight crew, but for all you people like who die at every chance to get up from it's worth it.
P.S. Be sure to tell them of any Ratings and Certificates you may have.
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Sun Feb 18, 2001 11:33 pm

Hi, As BA staff i always ask the cabin services director prior to take off .I have been on the f/deck on entire flights it is always an experience.BA crews are always happy to permit such visits so go for it ....!

regards

Sal
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Mon Feb 19, 2001 4:33 am

I don't want to rain on your parade but it won't happen with DL's L1011's because it's a U.S. airline. But definitely a foreign airline!
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Mon Feb 19, 2001 4:39 am

Yea, not a chance on any U.S. airline. But you do have good chances on foreign airlines.
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Tue Feb 20, 2001 5:07 am

I tried a lot on Lufthansa (I fly Lufthansa all the time). Last time I asked a few times and was denied. First excuse was that they don't allow visits during night flights, which was odd because I saw a little kid walk out of the cockpit after she said that. Then from FRA to LAX, I was also denied  Pissed. I thought this may have had to do with the fact that the day before, a BA744 had that incident where that wacko guy tried to take over the cockpit, and the plane did a flip. And I also told them I am a training pilot with cessna's, and maybe the captain didn't want to take any chances. Does anyone here know what I can do? I would love a jumpseat flight.
 
Jetboy
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Tue Feb 20, 2001 6:08 am

hey all

as flying with airline staff tickets im usually put in the jumpseat if all the other seats are full. Have noticed though that some pilots dont want people flying with them in the cockpit, but ohers are many welcoming.

Have also been in the jumpseat for takeoff/landing even when havin a seat. Both times the pilot invited me after a visit to the cockpit.

so this far ive been in the cockpit jumpseat on several Finnair flights and once on a Cathay Pacific flight (that was actually two landing and on takeoff)

cheers jetboy
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Sat Feb 24, 2001 11:37 am

It was all said I guess. Ask nicely and see what happens. You can only win, if they say yes your're in.

I have flown many times jump on the flight deck for the whole flight. Years back it used to be a lot easier than nowadays. More weirdos and restrictions make it more and more difficult.

AR,LH,LT, SQ were some of the carriers I was able to fly on the flight deck.


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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Sun Feb 25, 2001 4:54 am

I am convinced  Smile

I am Flying to Boston in 6 weeks and i am definately gonna ask  Smile

thanks folks  Smile
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Sun Feb 25, 2001 6:25 am

I have been in the jumpseat once, it was on a Finnair B757-200, when i was coming home from Costa Rica (you can find my trip report with the search engine).
But when i flew a Finnair MD-82 to Northern Finland (see my trip report about that too), they said that they weren't allowed to let non-staff members to sit in the cockpit during the landing in case of a emergency.

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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Sun Feb 25, 2001 11:16 am

What are AirNZ and Ansett's policies??

As for an L-1011, try Air Transat...

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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Mon Feb 26, 2001 6:50 pm

Went to Australia in December 1999 but I didn't know i could visit the cockpit... and I flew with Qantas. I heard they always allow cockpit visits....

will try in my next flight

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tim
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Mon Feb 26, 2001 10:54 pm

Qantas seem to be very good at allowing cockpit visits and jumpseats!
but shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

who knows one of u may be on the same flight as me and competing for it!
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Regards
Tim
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Tue Feb 27, 2001 11:47 am

Hi! I was going to ask the same question. I was hoping to on a MCI-ATL (and back) flight on Delta. But I guess not. If it might help me, I know three people who are either related to, or know airline pilots. The lady that cuts my hair's father is a NW jumbo pilot out of HNL. A girl that's a friend of mine on my street has an older sister who is dating an AA pilot, and my mom works with someone who's brother is a UAL pilot. Would any of these connections help, do you think I could possibly write the airline and somehow work things out? Thanks for your help!
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Wed Feb 28, 2001 8:23 am

Does anybody have the experience of being in a jump seat in Singapore airlines. It will give me an idea if they will allow me.
 
mhsieh
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Wed Feb 28, 2001 10:15 am

Yes, Singapore Airlines did allow me to jumpseat from the middle of the flight until we landed on a 747-300 flight from HNL to TPE back in 1988....
 
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RE: Getting Into The Jumpseat/cockpit

Wed Feb 28, 2001 8:04 pm

Does anyone know how the Swissair policy is on this subject ?

Thanks
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