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Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Tue Jun 26, 2001 6:19 pm

Well, finally my holiday in Thailand had come to an end, and it was time to fly back to the UK, this time on Qantas (the inward trip was on BA). Date, 25th June 2001 - scheduled departure 00.30.

Imagine my surprise when the airport bus turned up at the Qantas 744 in WUNALA DREAMING colourscheme. It actually looks nicer up close than in the photos, although if you ask me I'm not the greatest fan of this scheme.

Anyway, I was seated in seat 61 H, by the window towards the rear of the A/C. Fisrst impressions of the cabin was that it was noticeably inferior to that of BA. No PTV, no footrest, and tatty seats weren't all that impressive compared to the inward flight on BA. Still, a cabin is not the be all and end all, so I took my seat, and we pushed back about 5 minutes late (00.35).

Rotation was prompt, and a nice view of Bangkok at night was seen from my window. We headed up to a cruising altitude of 37,000 feet, and the route took us over Myanmar, India Afghanistan, various ex-Soviet states, Russia, Latvia, passing underneath Scandinavia before heading down towards the Netherlands, then descending into the UK.

Dinner was served about 2 hours after rotation, it was a choice of Chicken with vegetables or Spaghetti in a tomato-based sauce. Accompanying was a Thai-style Somtam salad (spicy papaya salad) and a dessert of a type of egg custard flan. I had the chicken. The food was okay, but paled into insignificance compared to BA's offerings. Still, the BA food was prepared at its home airport of LHR, whereas QF's food was done by Thai caterers, so I cannot leap to any conclusions based on that.

Breakfast was a choice of tropical fruit, or a vegetable quiche (I opted for the quiche - again it was so-so)

There was a 'Movie Marathon' on offer, but as this prevented the Route and statistics map being shown on the screen, I was a bit annoyed by this. For me, the major advantage of PTV is the fact that you can keep the Airshow on your screen at all times.

The flight was absolutely packed, and subsequently the cabin was a bit noisy, with the Aussies being the major culprits! The BA flight was only about half full, so obviously was quieter for this reason.

Okay, so far I have talked about areas in which Qantas needs to catch up a bit, but there were some nice touches too. The F/A's were in my opinion, excellent, very friendly. BA's F/A's were very efficient, but quite aloof (very British) whereas the Qantas F/A's were very approachable and smiling. Drinks could have been offered more frequently (BA came around every 30 minutes with drinks), but you have to consider here that the QF flight was packed and the BA flight was 50% full.

Another nice touch was the fact that on the QF F/A's name badges there is a flag indicating the foreign language(s) spoken by that attendant. This is a great idea in my opinion, and shows a degree of thoughtfulness on the part of the airline towards it's passengers.

Another nice touch was the presentation movie on the destination, showing all the good areas in London and the UK etc - again this shows a great degree of thoughtfulness towards pax.

We landed around 2 minutes later than scheduled (06.32 UK time), and after a flight of around 12 hours we deplaned.


Final thoughts. At the moment, if you want good food, PTV and a nice cabin, take BA's New World Traveller - it absolutely smashes Qantas away in this respect. However, Qantas is believed to be undergoing cabin modernisation in it's 744 fleet shortly, so this argument may not be valid for long.

What Qantas does have going for it is a very friendly, unpretentious Flight Crew, and this counts for a lot in my opinion. Okay, so it is clear that as things stand, BA is the better airline at the moment, but I look forward to trying Qantas' new 744 cabins in the near future, to see the difference.
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Tue Jun 26, 2001 7:00 pm

Great trip report..
Hey you noticed the bad food aswell huh! I have had bad food on Qantas everytime i have flown them, though i do love there FA's and there service is very good!!

Don't you just hate there FA uniform though?? So ugly!!!

Also, Why don't you like the C/S?? It is awesome!! I wish AirNZ did something like that!!

Have a great day,
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Tue Jun 26, 2001 10:59 pm

Very nice report! A+
I too totaly agree with you about BA & QF There's some major differances that need to be sorted on QF. But the FA's are pretty good. One thing: I swear Wunala Dreaming is a B747-300, could be wrong but in all the pics i can remember one thing, no winglits!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Tue Jun 26, 2001 11:00 pm

You're thinking of 'Nalanji Dreaming'. Wunala was definitely a 744!
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RE: Ryanb741

Tue Jun 26, 2001 11:07 pm

O yeah whoops!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
just remembered! LOL
Cheers
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British Airways

Tue Jun 26, 2001 11:52 pm

Hey,
Very nice trip report! Could you tell me more about the British Airways economy (whatever they call them) seats in their 744's? Do they have PTV's? Comfortable?
Thanks, and looking foward to your response.

Travis
 
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RE: Tbone202

Wed Jun 27, 2001 12:00 am

Here is the link for my trip repost on the outward flight on BA.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/9572/
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Wed Jun 27, 2001 12:43 am

Great your trip report. I enjoyed you reading your story. I would like to fly to Australia soon, this or next year, but I don't know which airline I will take. All of my choices are good airliens, BA, QF, MH, CX, ANZ and lots more.
Greetings
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RE: Swiss-airplane

Wed Jun 27, 2001 2:37 am

If your going economy or Business, basicaly iff your going at all, go either British Airways or Cathay Pacific. Obviously the best choices for going to Australia. You will go to Hong Kong with Cathay Pacific and the to Australia on a A340 probebley or with British Airways to Singapore and then to Australia on B744.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Your choice, both excellent airlines.
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Wed Jun 27, 2001 2:56 pm

Great report.
I really enjoyed it.
I guess your right, QF cant be blamed for catering from BKK.
Hope you try it agian when there is an upgrade

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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Wed Jun 27, 2001 3:00 pm

You'll be glad to know that VH-OJE, the first Qantas aircraft with PTVs throughout, should be winging its way to Heathrow as you read these words Smile/happy/getting dizzy.
I have yet to see the new interior however I understand it is quite impressive.
As for the food, well, it's hard to cater for hundreds of different people, normally one should limit intake to the bare minimum anyway.
I'm glad that Wunala appeared for you Ryan, what timing!
 
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Wed Jun 27, 2001 5:09 pm

Thanks for all the replies guys!
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Wed Jun 27, 2001 7:51 pm

WHAT????
Has Qantas released the 744 with PTV's yet?

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AJ....

Wed Jun 27, 2001 8:04 pm

Are you sure??
I heard from a Sorce within Qantas that the plane has not been released yet, ad it is still in the hanger... There was a problem and it is now not getting rleased till early July!!

Well maybe you could be right. My source is currently in BNE!!

Have a great Day
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Wed Jun 27, 2001 8:07 pm

Are you sure??

I heard from my source within Qantas that it is not getting released till July due to some problems!!

My source is currently in BNE so i will; haev to talk to him when he gets back!!

Cheers
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Thu Jun 28, 2001 9:59 am

That's quite a stutter Mikey!
The aircraft's release will not be huge news, as the last thing wanted is for every passenger on every flight to be expecting PTVs when there is only ONE aircraft on line. This news came from the engineers at LHR expecting the aircraft for training, however it is still aviation so it may have changed since!
 
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Fri Jun 29, 2001 7:49 am

Cheers AJ!!

Thanks lot!

Mikey
 
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Sun Jul 01, 2001 7:59 pm

Great trip report. I can see that you enjoyed the flight despite the shortcomings of QF in you mind. I just flew on BA this week and I noticed that the F/A's badges do feature flags suggestive of foreign languages which they speak. Perhaps BA has caught onto QF's lead in this regard.

Again, a lovely report.

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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Mon Jul 02, 2001 8:13 am

Great trip report , you were extremely lucky to fly on Wunala Dreaming.

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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Mon Jul 02, 2001 10:50 am

The flags on the name tags is not just unique to QF or BA as long as i can remember flying to asia the F/A's on United had flags representing the language they spoke.
 
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Tue Jul 03, 2001 1:46 pm

I took 2 pictures of Wunala at LHR on Tuesday 19 June 2001. If I get access to a scanner (which I have never had as yet) I will attempt to post them here (along with other great photos).

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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Thu Jul 05, 2001 10:34 pm

Whats wrong with the QF FA uniform ? Which one do you mean ??

I think that QF and BA are trying to get very smilar in thier Y and F classes.

If you look at their (QFs) webpage they advertises them as the same

Bit weird that their business classes are different though.

Oh almost forgot  Smile GREAT REPORT


Havn't flown QF International for a while (I now use Royal Brunei)


PS. Have you flown SQ, if so would you rate BA over SIA and if your A/C had the upgrade would SIA be better ?

Thanx
 
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Fri Jul 06, 2001 1:02 pm

Nice report! Air New Zealand have the flags on the badges too.
 
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Fri Jul 06, 2001 2:30 pm

I'm glad you liked the Qantas crew. There are some good crews around but in my experience they are few and far between. It is sad to see fellow Australians being so haughty and pretentious and it doesn't fit in with the F/A role.

I flew QF SIN-ADL 2 days ago and was appalled by the poor state of the cabin. I thought all the 767s had had the cabin refit but I assure you this one hadn't. The food was also poor, and with so many flights out of SIN, QF ought to be able to have a certain amount of control on the quality out of there.

Anyway, glad YOU enjoyed the flight. I'm envious that you flew the "flying bloodclot" however.
 
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Sun Jul 08, 2001 9:10 am

Great report

The flight you were on was QF1 was it not?

Always wanted to fly on this flagship service of our national airline, or the 'Kangaroo Route' as it is known.

Flew between Australia and Europe over ten years ago with SQ and MH (Back then they were using 747-200s and you had to make a refuelling stop in Dubai). Can't wait to fly on the 744.

Never flown QF on International routes. Heard many bad reports about the food though. Sounds as if they need to get their act together.

Best regards
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Sun Jul 08, 2001 8:10 pm

BennyB. The flight was QF1 (codeshare BA 7311), and it was nice to get to fly on the legendary Wunala Dreaming!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Bruneiair - I have flown SQ in Y and J class, same as BA. BA's J class is IMHO better, and the Y classes are pretty similar really. Best of all though is Emirates - if you get a chance to fly them go for it!  Smile

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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Mon Jul 09, 2001 2:43 pm

Unfortunatly Emirates doesn't fly into Darwin, but when i fly to UK I will fly with Royal Brunei, They don't have PTVs but you dont miss what you have never had. The service makes uup for the missing PTVs though.

PS i have heard that Emirates Y class is a bit squeazy
 
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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Tue Jul 10, 2001 5:39 am

I'm flying to Bangkok on Emirates a week Friday from Manchester via Dubai. (Economy - but i ain't complaining. Maybe after my 20hr journey I will be, depending if the Emirates service lives up to all the good press it gets!) I'll get to try out both the A330 and B777 so a good trip alround it seems!!!

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RE: Trip Report - BKK-LHR On Qantas 'Wunala Dreaming'

Wed Jul 11, 2001 1:13 am

Funny isn't it, how flying the same route you can get totally different experiences.

Flying to and from LHR last year i was with BA, where their seats are modern, i really like the PTV's and it looks nice, but the seats were too hard and i couldn't get to sleep. Also the little headrests that popout were also very uncomfortable. The QF seats (I flew everywhere in Australia and to BKK from SYD, and to PER, from SIN), despite the fact they looked tatty were in fact very comfortable, and although there wasn't a PTV the screen was not far away, and QF have more Toilets on their B744's.

The Flight Attendants were the biggest difference, the QF f/a's offered papers and magazines to each passenger, and were always pleasent, friendly and helpful. The BA f/a's were very ratty, and never really cared about any of the passengers.

And about the food, i have to admit on one flight the food was horrible, but all the rest was great! I actually got mild food poisoning from the BA food coming back from BKK to LHR and it was cold on the flight out.

Silly thing with the BA World Traveller seats, the controller for the PTV is set into the armrest, and it has a plastic cover glued on so that you don't hit the buttons with your arm, but most of them had broke off because they were poorly stuck on and when we boarded it was constant accidental calls to the f/a's going ping ping ping ping!!!

hehe.

I like BA, especially on shorter flights but i definetely prefer Qantas.

Regards, Dan

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