KCLE
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CLE-PHX On Delta

Fri Aug 03, 2001 2:31 pm

My itinery was as follows: 6:55 AM, July 28, CLE-CVG, MD80; 9:30 AM, CVG-PHX, 757; 3:00 PM, August 2, PHX-CVG, 757; 10:50 PM, CVG-CLE MD80. I got to CLE at 5 AM, so I was bumped to the 6 AM flight to ATL. We had to circle ATL for 10 min. until some fog lifted. We got SkyDeli. It's pretty good. I was hoping to see a final L1011, but all I saw were 767s, which I've never seen before either. Around 8:30, we left on the 757 to PHX, we got breakfast, which was a banana, milk, cereal, and a croissant (sp.). The flight was uneventful.

Returning was a different story. We couldn't get on an earlier flight, because we saw that our 757 flight was half empty!! So, we left at 3:00 and about 3000 feet up, we suddenly dipped, presumabely because the pilot had turned the autopilot on. We landed in CVG around 9:45, to thick clouds and some storms in the area. Our 10:50 flight to CLE left on time, and was pretty bumpy. BUT, our descent was even worse!! We were goin up and down, and side to side, through these clouds and storms. We had to descend over downtown Cleveland, and make a sharp turn to final right over Jacobs Field. I knew we were in for a rough landing by the way we kept swaying side to side. Sure enough, about halfway down the runway, we finally touched down. Right main first, then left main, then nose gear. We were going way too fast and the spoilers were up as soon as the gear touched. The reverse thrust was at full power, and we still had to skid to a stop with the brakes  Wow! !!!!! All in all, it was a great trip, and I give a lot of respect to the pilot and first officer that got us on the ground!  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: CLE-PHX On Delta

Sat Aug 04, 2001 3:45 am

How did you compare CVG to CLE?

Personally I think CVG is better than CLE.
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RE: CLE-PHX On Delta

Sat Aug 04, 2001 4:16 am

You are absoutely correct, CVG is a million times better then CLE. CVG looks more inviting with all those shops and high ceilings. Plus, I saw my first MD-11!! It was the direct flight from Anchorage, Alaska. CLE, on the other hand, doesn't have all the shops and high ceilings, nor the space for lots of people to sit if widebodies ever came here.

Oh, I also forgot to add that our flight from CVG-CLE, the one that skid to a stop, well we landed on 24L, but we finally stopped about 500 feet from the touchdown point of 6R. That's short stopping distance seeing as though we didn't make contact until the 18-36 intersection.
 
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RE: CLE-PHX On Delta

Sat Aug 04, 2001 7:46 am

If passengers flying through CVG would actually step out of Delta's Terminal 3, people's impression of CVG would be MUCH different. Personally, I like traveling through CLE better, no need to take a bus or train to make a connection, and gates in the C Concourse are relatively close to each other.
 
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RE: CLE-PHX On Delta

Sat Aug 04, 2001 8:48 am

Yeah, I wish CLE was a lot more like CVG.

>>If passengers flying through CVG would actually step out of Delta's Terminal 3, people's impression of CVG would be MUCH different. Personally, I like traveling through CLE better, no need to take a bus or train to make a connection, and gates in the C Concourse are relatively close to each other.<<

But almost everyone going through CVG will be travelling on DL. As most people going through CLE will be travelling on CO.

True, it's easier to walk through CLE. But then the whole design of the terminal is way better than CLE.

I think that DL put a lot more money into CVG than CO put into CLE.

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