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Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Tue Sep 11, 2001 7:41 pm

How easy is it to get to sit there at "pole position" for takeoff and/or landing?? Wich airlines are the easiest with these kind of requests?
I would like to hear from people at A.net who have posted photos from the jumpseat how you got to sit there in the first place.

Rgds,

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Tue Sep 11, 2001 8:45 pm

I find it very easy on Qantas. I was offered the landing on my last attempt.

I took this from one of the jumpseats onboard 767-336 ZXG on finals for 03 at Perth.

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Wed Sep 12, 2001 8:43 am

After today, kiss that thought goodbye. The only time anybody will be in a jumpseat from here on foward will be if you are a pilot!

Rot in hell terrorists!
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Wed Sep 12, 2001 9:25 am

Is it possible to gain jumpseat access on a flight operated by a US airline if you are a commerical pilot from a foreign country?
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Wed Sep 12, 2001 3:40 pm

After 9-11, I very much believe the FAA will mandate that airlines flying to and from the United States no longer allow non company personnel to jumpseat.

Sorry guys.
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 1:59 am

Yup, I think we've seen the end of jumpseating due to terrorists.


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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Thu Sep 13, 2001 3:46 am

Damn.....
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 15, 2001 7:46 pm

I still think that it's being over zealous banning jumpseating, simply because it really achieves next to nothing.

If a terrorist really wants to get into the cockpit, they will. They're not going to ask the flight attendant, "Excuse me, would I be able to visit the cockpit?"

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 1:03 am

I hope during my life I will be able to jumpseat.
I'm only 13 and have wanted to do so for a long time.

Rot in hell terrorists Angry
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Sun Sep 16, 2001 5:17 am

I try to have one for Christmas on CX LHR_HKG, but I think now, i might as well forget it!

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Tue Sep 18, 2001 6:13 pm

I once had the chance to fly Stuttgart-Agadir-Stuttgart on jumpseat. Both flights the same day on the same plane with the same crew. They call it "Streckenerfahrungsflug" (not sure how to translate that, maybe trip-experience flight???), for motivation of us ramp agents who always wanted to become pilot but didn't succeed. Not sure if they still offer it.
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Fri Sep 21, 2001 1:22 pm

Well, unless the airline has specificially stated that you *cant* go in there, then I reckon you still have a chance... SQ has banned it saying its a restricted area.

But then again, I still managed to get a few visits even during the previous time when they banned it.
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Fri Sep 21, 2001 9:11 pm

I would say it is basically up to the captain. I guess most of the time the captain will agree provided the weather is good.. etc. But from now, I see little chance, after the attacks on the USA.

Rot in hell terrorists.

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Sep 22, 2001 8:05 am

I talk to pilots all the time before flights and I asked them that question on a flight from EWR-AMS. They said that it is against FAA regs. for anyone but airline pilots (such as extra pilots) to use the jumpseats at any time. Fun approach over the English Channel, i was a little disappointed...

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Sun Sep 23, 2001 4:08 pm

I have got a jump seat many times! once on Cathay Pacific. from Hong Kong Kai Tak to Tokyo Narita. Then this past january I got it ALOT in New Zealand. 737 from Auckland to Queenstown! by far the best approach besides Kai Tak's! A few days later on the 737 from Queenstown to Christchurch the same captain was doing the route and actually had a F/A come to my seat and said "the captain has requested your presence in the flight deck" you can imagine how cool that was! so got to be on that entire flight. Next was on the big one! Christchurch to Auckland on the Air New Zealand 747-400!! just amazing seeing those guys handle such a big bird with the greatest of ease! I must say Air New Zealand pilots are great! all very friendly! I hope we all can still take advantage of jumpseating in the future! sure does make the whole passenger flying aspect that much better! if you dont like your seat... just ask to be upgraded to the flight deck!

cheers!
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RE: Forget It!

Tue Sep 25, 2001 8:01 am

what many of you guys dont understand is that you will never be able to get in the cockpit anymore.....airlines will ban it left and right, just like it is here in the USA.
someone who said if someone wanted to get in then they could, well ya thats true but they will do whatever they can to minimize that chance.

sorry, but forget about sitting in the cockpit from now on...;-(!!!!
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Tue Sep 25, 2001 8:29 am

I'm going to be asking anyway...

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Wed Sep 26, 2001 5:53 am

In replying to what Elal 106 mentioned above - the cockpit visits during the flight were banned on US airlines, it didn't help. Why other airlines should implement the procedure which doesn't work?

I think that in some future the things will "get to normal" and people will treat flying like way to commute, not the potential for the act of terror.
At that time we will be again able to take a jumpseat.

Jarek
 
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RE: Jarek

Wed Sep 26, 2001 7:03 am

hahahahahah.... Laugh out loud

hmm when was the last time someone got into the cockpit of an ELAL plane?

pilots (not all!) will be scared to let people in, and you never know what could happen with crazy people on this earth that would get in if they allowed anyone to get in the cockpit especially after what happend....
anyways if they let people back it that would be great, but have you noticed how many airlines around the world already started banning it?

good luck and very cool if you get in again!
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Wed Sep 26, 2001 9:54 pm

Elal106,

on El Al there is not only the ban for the cockpit visit but special double door.
Hmm may be that's why El Al was lucky  Smile

Unfortunatelly I am not planning to fly any time soon so I will not be able to check how does it look like.

Anyway I will let you know if I try.

Jarek
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Fri Sep 28, 2001 3:51 am

The FAA never allowed "visitors" in the cockpit. In a non US city-non US city it was easier, but now we won't be seeing that for some time.
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Sun Sep 30, 2001 6:04 am

I remember when I was on a Qantas 767 from Auckland to Brisbane, the captain told the flight attendant to ask the kids in my group a math problem that involved converting km-miles. (We're American) The prize for the correct answer was to sit in the jumpseat on approach and landing into Brisbance. Unfortunately I got the question wrong but another kid was lucky enough to get up there.
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Wed Oct 10, 2001 10:38 pm

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It was nice.

The guy who pointed us to the gate was this old guy, and the co-pilot said to the pilot, "Wanna run him over?"
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Thu Oct 11, 2001 4:13 am

I'm also afraid that it's impossible from now on to have a jumpseat flight, but I'm happy about the cockpit flights on following airplanes: Austrian Airlines MD80, A340-300, Lauda Air B767-300ER, Tyrolean Dash8/300, Rheintalflug Dash8/300, Finnair MD82, Air Mauritius B767-200ER, ATR 42-300, TAP A321, Aerocondor Shorts 360, SAS MD87, B737-600, Braathens B737-400 and Slovak Government Flying Service Yak 40. But that's history :-((
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Fri Oct 12, 2001 2:40 am

I think I will be able to jumpseat because I fly Olympic all the time and my dad was an OA pilot and he knows all of the captains. The only chance I have not to jumpseat will be if other passengers compain because they are afraid...
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Thu Oct 18, 2001 9:29 pm

Well, over a month has passed since the terrorist perversion of using airliners as a living bomb; and I am afraid that for a very long time jump-seat-rides for t/o and landing will be banned.

I had two brilliant experiences on two LH flights when I was invited to the flight deck for an early morning landing in Buenos Aires (EZE) and a CAT II landing in Frankfurt (FRA), both on a 747-430.

I strongly agree with those of you who want to see the terrorists rot in hell.

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 5:34 am

I ve flown many jump seat landings on air liberté F100 (twice), Airfrance A320 (twice), Mea 310 (once) and Mea 320 (once). The crew was very kind .
I'm flying on sunday Cdg-Bey on middle east airlines an d i will try to jump seat. Perhaps it's easyer on an arab airline. I will tell you.
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Fri Oct 26, 2001 8:46 pm

Has anyone been successful since September 11th in even managing to visit th flight deck? On a 'round the world ticket' last year, I found that only Air New Zealand and Ansett (as it was) were obliging in this matter. Singapore have had their standard spiel about "Singapore CAA and special dispensations only" for some time it would seem. I had a fantastic jump-seat ride in to Birmingham aboard an Air 2000 757 4 years ago whilst returning from Greece. The crew were fantastic and not in the least bit phased about having an extra pair of eyes and ears up front.
I have also had a long interest in shipping and have found that writing to the Master of a passenger vessel in advance is sometimes the only way of getting access up front there. Let's hope that things haven't been ruined forever.......
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Wed Oct 31, 2001 9:37 pm

It's very easy to get access...if you know the pilots. Big grin


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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Thu Nov 08, 2001 6:49 pm

I had Success, i visited the flightdeck on a LH flight to Boston Big grin less then a week ago.

unfortunately I did not ask to stay for landing  Sad
I really should not forget that the next time.

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Sun Nov 11, 2001 7:32 pm

Gunfighter,

How did this happen, im really interested to know. I will be flying soon also, and wonder what my chances are. My flight is with Monarch to Goa.

Rgds, Give it a GO
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 2:43 am

I only got a landing jumpseat along with a friend onboard Olympic 2 weeks ago ATH-LHR. I couldn't go during takeoff because a captain was going through route check. (check my trip report!)
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Mon Nov 12, 2001 7:30 am

Again, the question to Lewis, isn't this banned now?

How did it happen?
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Wed Nov 14, 2001 4:21 am

If it is banned, Olympic crews possibly dont give a damn, so fly Olympic! I had a jumpseat during landing because my dad knew both captains. But the thing is that they will possibly say yes to anyone because a classmate of mine who was flying came along too. On my return flight I didn't go because I was pissed off with the captain who was a real @$$hole (again, read my trip report for more details).
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Sat Nov 17, 2001 2:26 pm

As a Continental employee, I just found out the other day that we will start accepting, once again, jumpseaters from other airlines, at the Captains discrecion. However, they will not be able to sit in the cockpit. They will have to take a seat in the cabin. Other airline employees are no longer allowed to sit in the 'pit for the flight
 
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Tue Nov 27, 2001 5:16 pm

To get a jumpseat landing with SAS, you have to know somebody who works for them. My uncle got a jumpseat landing two weeks ago onboard a SAS MD 87. His girlfriend is a flight attendant with SAS so thats how he got permission to enter the cockpit. I have also been promised that she will arrange a jumpseat landing for me on my next flight to Stockholm on December 22.

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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Tue Nov 27, 2001 7:26 pm

Best Jump seat that I had was onboard a 146 into London City Airport.

With steep approach through the business district of London... it was amazing...

With a short runway and steep approach, the 146 is the only jet (apart from the f-70) that can operate into LCY.
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RE: Jumpseat For Takeoff And Landing?

Thu Nov 29, 2001 1:58 am

Hello....I sat in the jumpseat aboard JMC whilst on a flight BRS-LCA and they were very happy to let me sit in the jumpseat for the landing  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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