OH-LGA
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My First Non-Rev Experience!

Sat Oct 06, 2001 2:29 am

OK, I got to take my first non-rev trip on Wednesday! A short hop yes, but the main thing was that it was for free  Smile


UA7975 SFO-STS - 10.3.2001
Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia (N1105G)
Seat 9C (exit row)
Cruising Level: ???


I began my trip the night before, when I asked my parents if I could do the non-rev thing from San Francisco to Santa Rosa. "Sure, go ahead. The car will be waiting for you at the Airporter stop in Petaluma." Sweet! I called up UAL List and listed myself for my first ever non-rev trip. I selected UA7975, San Francisco to Santa Rosa, 7:47 departure. The system responded: "Economy - More than 25 seats open." In a 30-seater plane, this is a very good thing. Big grin

The next day I putzed around doing stuff, running a few small errands and a teensy bit of schoolwork. I went and got a haircut from Eduardo, who always cuts my hair perfectly, and for $13 at that! I walked back home and then washed my hair to get all the clippings out, and got ready to go. I put on a pair of khakis with a belt and a green plaid shirt I tucked in. I gelled up my hair until it looked good, and then I put the styling gel in my backpack along with some goodies and an extra shirt just in case this first shirt wasn't good enough to non-rev in (in the end it was fine)

I then put on a helmet and rode my bike to the bus stop, because my mom took my brother and some of his friends to the beach. Fine, didn't matter. I locked up the bike at the stop and waited about 10 minutes for the bus to come. I got on, put on my headphones and listened to Hearsay's "Show Me The Way To Your Love (Almighty Mix)" and other club mixes for the entire hour and 5 minute journey to SFO. I got off at the US Airways stop and poked around the International Terminal and Terminal 1 (the terminals have been renamed as of Oct. 1st) before making my way through the deserted Terminal 2 and eventually into Terminal 3 (United/American). I went through security, relatively painless this time, and made my way to 87A, but not before dashing into the bathroom and fixing my hair with gel and water from the abuse due to the bike helmet, and then on to the bus.

Arriving in the terminal, I went up to where my friends Brie and Jason were at Gate 5. "How are my favorite people?!" Brie knew I was coming but Jason didn't, he looked at me funny. "What in the heck are you doing here on your day off?" "Flying for free!"  Smile Brie checked me in for my flight, and acted all prim and proper.

"Mr. Groves, has anyone asked you to carry an item on this flight?"
"No."
"Mr. Groves, have any of the items you are traveling with been out of your control at any time since you packed them?"
"No."
"Are you carrying any hazardous materials?"
"No."
"Thank you very much Mr. Groves."

I collected my boarding pass, and to my delight, I had been assigned Seat 9C, exit row, window seat. I went and sat down for a second. I went up to Brie again and gave her a Finnish chocolate bar.

"You have to share this with Tom and Jason."
"What makes you think I will? Big grin"

I went to go sit back down, but then I looked down the terminal to find my ramper friend Tom coming down the terminal. He was surprised to see me as well. We talked for a minute, and then Brie stole him to go walk some passengers out to a plane.

"If you do this for me I'll show you the surprise Kai brought."
"I know what it is already."
"Well still you can do this for me... please???"

The poor guy gave in and walked the pax out. He came back and then they divided up the chocolate, and of course being the nice people they are, they shared with the other agents that were nearby. They all loved the chocolate (Yay!  Smile). So then Tom and I talked for a while, then he went off to do some more work. I had promised Jason earlier I would get him a Jamba Juice smoothie, and asked Tom if he wanted one too. He said yes, whatever I was getting would be fine. Brie wanted a cinnamon roll from Just Desserts. So taking all these orders (and some money as well) I left to go back to the main terminal. I quickly arrived back with the orders. They sat by my feet waiting until they all went on their respective breaks.

Us (minus Jason) went out back and talked while they smoked. There were some weird dialogue, for example:
Tom: "You know, this Jamba Juice is really good with cigarettes."
Me: "I'll keep that in mind."
"Also keep in mind what I said earlier. Don't start."
"OK."
"I don't want to be blamed for corrupting you or anything like that."
"That's OK, we'll just blame Brie Big grin"

Brie was talking to someone else, but she turned around a short pause later:
Brie: "Hold on just a second, blame me for what?"
Me: "If I take up smoking."
"Oh, OK."

Then it was about time to go. I said goodbye (of sorts) to both of them. I asked Tom if he was going to board my flight to STS. He was like, OK... even though he was supposed to be on his lunch break. Such a nice guy!  Big thumbs up I waited a couple of minutes, joking with the two agents working Gate 4. Soon enough, "For those passengers travelling to Santa Rosa on United Express flight 7975, we are now boarding out of Gate 4." I was last in line of all 3 passengers for this flight, and gave them my boarding pass, and received the stub. We waited for about 15 seconds and then Tom walked us out to parking position 2-Bravo, where our plane N1105G was parked. We boarded, and Tom and I said our last "vocal" goodbyes.

I took my exit row seat, in a very comfortable leather seat. The f/a asked me if I would be able to assist in the event of an emergency, I said yes, of course. Tom was doing whatever rampers do when they are inside the plane, giving the F/A the paperwork and speaking to the flight crew. Our flight attendant, Amanda, began her welcome announcement, and Tom waved at me from behind her. I waved back at him. Amanda finished her announcement as the plane started up and moved away from it's parking position. Sure enough, there was Tom, marshaling the aircraft out. One last wave, and he went off to go have a cigarette  Smile As we were taxiing, you could feel almost every bump in the taxiway, but that was fine with me. Amanda came back and took beverage orders. I ordered a Sprite (my inflight drink of choice). We reached 1L, and came to a stop.

Almost immediately, the go-ahead was given and the engines sprang into action. We started down the runway, lifting off before even reaching the first crossing of the perpendicular runways. We lifted off into the beautiful San Francisco evening sky at 7:57pm. We climbed up over San Francisco. Over the Golden Gate Bridge, my drink was served. Soon after that, the famous SkyWest snack basket came through, and I selected my personal favorite, the SkyWest 2000 Snack Mix. I munched on the contents and sipped on my drink as we passed over the familiar countryside below. I picked out where my dad's work was, San Quentin, Northgate Mall, Vintage Oaks shopping center (highly visible due to the large Target sign placed on the respective store), and my relative's house. Unfortunately, the fog started right as we started to see Petaluma, but I kind of figured out where my house was. Over Petaluma, we began our descent into Santa Rosa. I watched as we dipped closer to the layer of low clouds, keeping my eyes attached to the beautiful golden moon sitting close to Mt. St. Helena. I bid a silent farewell to the moon as bumps in the cloud layer would obscure it for a second, then it would appear again. Soon enough, we dipped completely below the fog layer. About 10 seconds later, the ceiling of the fog layer gave way, as we approached Charles M. Schultz - Sonoma County Airport. The runway soon appeared, and we hit the runway firmly at 8:17pm, exactly 20 minutes after takeoff from San Francisco. The landing wasn't rough, perfect I'd say. Brakes were applied and turned off the runway. Amanda came on the PA and welcomed us to Santa Rosa, where the local time was just about 8:20pm. She thanked us for flying SkyWest United Express on behalf of the Sacramento-based flight crew. The plane taxied for a while until it came to a stop in front of the terminal. We waited a few minutes after the props were turned off. Amanda offered us all a complimentary Thank You mint. Then the door opened, and all three of us stepped off the plane.

I entered the terminal, and went up to the United Express desk. In SFO I had been given the very important job of COMAT'ing material (SkyWest blue employee trip passes Big grin) to Santa Rosa, as the station is closing October 30th and they aren't ordering any more, thus dependent on us for blue passes  Smile I gave them to a person, and then stood around until the plane was turned around for it's return as UA7976 to SFO. Then they came back out to the desk, and I talked with them for a while, as I was waiting for the airporter back to Petaluma which left at 9:15. All of the 3 I talked to are planning to transfer to SFO, working on a part-time basis. So I taught them how to do a few things they don't do in STS, such as sending bag messages. I also saw them sign for fuel purchases, something CS Agents don't do in SFO  Smile

Then it was time to go, and I said goodbye to the very nice ground crew in Santa Rosa and boarded the bus. 45 minutes and 3 stops later, I got off the bus in Petaluma, found the car, unlocked the bike and put it on the bike rack, and drove home.

That's my first non-rev experience, hope you all enjoyed reading it!

Comments are of course welcomed!!!

Kai
Head in the clouds... yet feet planted firmly on the ground.
 
OH-LZA
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Sat Oct 06, 2001 6:04 am

WOW! Nice Report!

Zulu Alpha
 
Jason Seiple
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Sat Oct 06, 2001 6:11 am

A few too many non-essential details.
 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Sat Oct 06, 2001 7:49 am

Yeah nice report. How did you get that job at Skywest?

Tom
 
OH-LGA
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Sun Oct 07, 2001 4:31 am

Avion:

I sent in an application, I found out about it via the SFO Airport website. The SkyWest company website didn't even have the listings for it.

Jason:
Yes, I know... too many non-essential details  Sad But the way I wrote this trip report was complete stream-of-consciousness writing, thus I wrote whatever came to mind. You don't mess with stream-of-conciousness  Smile

I like to write my trip reports like ILUV767 does, except I probably could have done without paragraph number 2. The flight in an of itself was uneventful, so it would have been a short and rather boring trip report.

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Thanks all for the comments, and keep them coming (if you want). I'll keep them in mind when I write my next trip report!

Kai
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Mon Oct 08, 2001 9:23 am

Kai,

I really enjoyed reading your first non-rev trip report. I remember flying with Amanda. I hope that she remembers me. The last time that I flew with her, she was late for work. It was a morning flight, and after the quick round of inflight service, she was putting her make up on. I guess that she overslept, and didnt get to do it before work. Ok...enough about Amanda. You havnt done anything yet. Next saturday, prepare for me to take you on the 777!

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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Mon Oct 08, 2001 2:55 pm

Where you wearing black or tan shoes ???
 
HHHramp
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Tue Oct 09, 2001 9:58 am

I thought UAL discontinued non-rev flight listing after 10-01-01.

Unless of course they are only closing the system to companion passes.

Sean
 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Tue Oct 09, 2001 10:17 am

Jason don't be so critical.
 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Tue Oct 09, 2001 11:11 am

HHHramp wrote:
thought UAL discontinued non-rev flight listing after 10-01-01.

Unless of course they are only closing the system to companion passes.

Sean


Just the companion passes have been revoked.

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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Tue Oct 09, 2001 11:31 am

Thank you for your info.

I just tried the listing on UAL-LIST and they confirmed that as well

Damn shame

 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Fri Oct 12, 2001 3:11 am

Kai, excellent TR... it was fine the way it was.

Did not know Skywest offered "Thank You" mints... would be a cheap and friendly gesture (methinks) for the majors to start to offer.

P.S. How are you so priveleged to be able to sign on fuel purchases? I'm guessing they like your work ethic, enthusiast. =) Party on..
 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Fri Oct 12, 2001 4:56 am

Yes... I have too much fun at work..  Smile

I didn't sign for the fuel purchases at STS... the CUA's there did... i just watched  Smile I hope they like my work ethic... I've never not smiled at a customer... that could change but I don't expect it to.

I have New Hire training next week, so I'll be gone for a week ya'll... be back here a week from today probably!

Kai
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Tue Oct 16, 2001 8:36 am

I would go nuts if they took away my passes!! Today I just got back from Sydney Australia! its great being one of the first 3 people called for those kind of flights! I guess I shall write up a trip report as well about another non rev flight. Now that you got a taste for the non rev type stuff are you looking forward to going out and doing more? Glad to know you enjoy the non rev world!

Cheers!
Brian
 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Thu Oct 18, 2001 1:45 am

I loved your report, especially all the non-essential details! Big grin You must be a fan of Flight Unlimited II, I love that game...
BUT:
I am still not clear on what non-rev is? You work as a ramp agent for SkyWest, right? please explain...
 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Thu Oct 18, 2001 5:47 pm

Thanks for the great report i enjoyed reading it!
 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Sat Oct 20, 2001 12:55 am

LeftSeat86 wrote:

I am still not clear on what non-rev is? You work as a ramp agent for SkyWest, right? please explain...


A non-rev is a term given to those who are an airline employee, a dependent of an employee, parents, or someone that is traveling on employee passes. The official term is non-revenue where the airline is not making any money by flying the person. It is a perk for airline employees and their family. There are multiple types of non-reving. There is the most common Non-revenue Space Avalible which is what Kai was doing during his flights. This is where they can only get on the plane pending that there are open seats. There is also Non-revenue positive space which is when the company flys the employee for what ever reason that the airline needs to. They are guarenteed a seat on that flight.

Kai works for SkyWest as a customer service agent at the gates in SFO.

I hope that helps!

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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Sat Oct 20, 2001 4:05 am

Thanks! Big grin

We get Skywest Brasilias at LAX almost every 10min! You guys work quick!
 
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Tue Oct 30, 2001 3:57 pm

Ahhh, the pleasures of non-reving.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I remember my first nrsa trip by myself was from LHR-JFK.

I just got back from non-reving it to OGG this weekend.

OH-LGA, as an employee of SkyWest, an you ride UA? I know we can fly SkyWest just the same as we fly UA, so I'd guess it is reciprocal.
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OH-LGA
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Wed Oct 31, 2001 3:02 am

Absolutely we can!

And yes, we have many UA employees on any of our flights, many of them are commuters to their domicile. The question is if you'll get on  Smile OO employees have higher SB priority on OO than mainline employees (something that you guys do to us as well)

Coming back from training 2 weeks ago, I used my UAX WYO's (they look slightly different from mainline WYO's) to travel SLC-LAX-SFO, instead of waiting 5 hours for the direct SLC-SFO route on a BP4 NRPS. The nice thing is at SkyWest we have "blue passes", which are completely unlimited and don't need to be "issued" like WYO's, you just fill them out and go, and they have large stacks of them at every SkyWest operated counter (of course I have taken several books home).

One thing about being a SkyWest employee though is we can fly both our UAX and our DLC systems for free, while mainline UA employees would need to purchase an ID90 or something to that sort to travel on SkyWest's DLC system (based out of SLC, and now to a lesser extent, DFW)

Kai
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RE: My First Non-Rev Experience!

Sun Nov 04, 2001 8:38 am

Good trip report, by the way are there any good airline jobs in Ca.

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