megatop
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Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Tue Nov 27, 2001 10:45 pm

Australia - Bali. (AAL-CPH-LHR-SIN-DRW - AYQ-SYD - SYD-DRW-DPS - DPS-SIN-LHR-CPH-AAL).

My family is I, my wife and our 3 childres (10, 6 and 2)

I have not reg the reg.no. on the aircrafts.

Here is my trip repport.

6th october 2001.
We drove from my home town til Aalborg(AAL). Here we had a short flight with SAS(SK) to Copenhagen(CPH) - 30 min. The plane was a MD-82, painted in SAS's new livery. We got only coffee and orangejuice. The flight was nice. Really not much to write about.

After 6 hours in Copenhagen(CPH) we lifted off to London(LHR) on a B757-200 from British Airways(BA). The plane was painted with some chineese or japan signs on the tail. We were lucky to get the nice blue leather seats in the front of the economy class. There has been a lot of writing about the takeoff performance on the B757, but I found it rather normal. I have over 150 takeoffs on MD-80, and I find them quite good in acceleration and climb - but of cause these are almost domestic flights in Denmark, so the planes are on low fuel. Anyway the flight took us over the NorthSea to London. The flight and FA was OK.

In LHR we change from Terminal to Terminal 4 by bus. We saw a lot of BA B747-400. After some shopping we finally took to the boarding lounge. the flight was at 22.40. The plane was a B747-400 from BA. The colors was the new one. I think it is called "Union Jack". Our seats was jus in the front of the economy class - just were the wing starts. The plane had not been fitted with the new BusinessClass. But it had PTV in all 3 classes.

The food and service with was quit average. Our 3 childres slept about 11 hours on the plane, and I had a 5 hours sleep. I woke up over the India. From here we still had about 4 hours before reaching Singapore. We landed arround 18.45 local time, 12h45m after taking of from LHR. We parked at Terminal 1.

In Singapore we was shopping a little bit, both in Terminal 1 and in terminal 2. Arround 3½ hours later we went to the departure lounge.

Our 4th flight would bring us to Darwin in Australia.

The flight from SIN to DRW was on a QF B763. There was now PTV for this 4½ hours flight. But I must say that I think that sitting I a plane, which is going to Australia for the first time, was quit cool. The food, FA's ect was good. I didn't get any sleep on this flight.

So finally after 38 hours travelling we landed in Darwin Australia.

In Northeren Teritory we had rented a car for 7 days. We saw Kakadu Nationalpark, Litchfield Nartionalpark and Nitmiluk National Park, before we took a long drive to Alice Springs and Ayers Rock.

The flight from Ayers Rock (AYQ) to Sydney (SYD) was on a QF 733. The flight was arround 3 hours. Qantas domestic is quit ordinary, you even have to pay for beer and wine.

After spending 5 days in Sydney we flew via Darwin to Denpasar(Bali). Both flights was on QF 734. There was not much different between the domestic flight, 4 hours, and the international flight, 2h15m.

We stayed on Bali for 2 weeks.

But on Bali called Qantas to ask if they still were using the B747-200 on the wedsday flight to Singapore. The answer was YES. I then asked if it was possible that we could sit on the upper deck, where QF has economy class on the B742. They told my that they could put it in as a request, but could not garanti it.

So we were very thrilled when we checked in. We got row 12 abc and 13 ab. But we still did not know if it was on the upper deck. But when we showed our boarding pass to the FA in the plane he just said. "Please go up in the front and follow the staircase to the upper deck. What a moment. You are really sitting high up. There were room for about 30 pax. The overhead locker is in the side between the wall and the A seat. Anyway we had a lovely flight to SIN. the dinner was Pizza and red wine. The ride was very nice, and you could just hear a little "wisper" from the 4 RR engines.

After a short stop we flew from SIN to LHR on a BA B744. This flight is the flight where I have got the worst service ever. The food was very very bad. Not even your dog would eat it. But anywhere I managed to sleep for about 5 hours, on this 14h flight. KEEP ON TRYING BA!!

We landed 4:35 am local time in LHR terminal 4. We changed to terminal 1.

The plane to CPH, a BA A320, lifted off at about 7 am. Here we had a very nice breakfast. Landed 2h15 min later in CPH.

Here we had to rush to catch our domestic plane SK MD80, to AAL.

Back in Skagen, Denmark again, after travelling 38.000 km on 11 flights I can only say this: WE ARE COMMING BACK MATE'S.

Regards

Jan Gram Andersen
Skagen
Denmark
 
Ironminds
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Wed Nov 28, 2001 3:48 am

Wow, that is a helluva lot of flying to do with kids -- how'd they do with all that time in the air?

Good report. Enjoyed reading it. Not overly detailed, but the details were the right ones.
 
zizou
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Wed Nov 28, 2001 8:47 am

Nice report. So what is your impression of Australia?
 
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Wed Nov 28, 2001 10:27 am

Nice Report!

I think im gona make some new law here "prohibiting people to post trip reports to Australia"

Everytime i read them it just makes me wanna go to Australia even more!!! just kidding I always enjoy reading trip reports to Aussie. I hope someday ill make my own aussie trip report.

Megatop. How was Sydney?

Regards

MIAspotter
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megatop
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Zizou - MIAspotter

Wed Nov 28, 2001 7:00 pm

Regarding Australia, I must say, that it is not the last time we go there. Driving in the outback was just outstading.

As for Sydney, we were a bit disapointed. Well, the Sydney Operahouse, the Habour-Bridge and the whole waterfront is really really nice.

We also went up the ATM Tower( I think it is called so), where you could see Sydney from about 270 m.

You could see Kingsford Smith Airport. We saw "Wunala Dreaming" take off.

Located east of Sydney we also saw the Blue Mountains, which was also really nice.

BUT otherwise I think that Sydney was just like any other big cities. Quite durty, and we happened to stay in the "bad" end of Sydney, Kings Kross.

Regarding travelling with 3 children is no problem. We have been travelling to the following places the last many years:

1987 Sri Lanka - Maldives
1988 China - Hongkong
1989 Thailand
1990 Kenya
1991 Thailand
1992 Singapore - Malaysia
1993 Thailand - Indonesia
1994 Sri Lanka
1995 Hongkong - Indonesia
1996 Singapore - Indonesia
1997 Singapore - Indonesia
1998 Thailand - Indonesia
1999 Singapore - Indonesia
2000 Malaysia - Indonesia

Since 1992 that travelling has been with children.

Megatop
 
Victor
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Wed Nov 28, 2001 7:24 pm

A very good trip report..
So, how about your other trip?
I really looking forward to see your other report.
 
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Wed Nov 28, 2001 8:15 pm

Thank-you for taking the time to post this report.

I love Australia too, and am thinking about moving there from where I live today (England).

Thanks for your report on Qantas domestic. I was surprised to read of the fact that one had to pay for drinks-I thought Qantas was a 'frills' airline, where drinks would be complimentary?

What were the domestic fares like? The scenery as you flew over Australia?

It does not surprise me that you found the BA service average to poor.

My experience with BA longhaul has been either 1) Fantastic or 2) Poor. I guess it's so big, that there is plenty of opportunity to meet not-so-nice cabin crew!

When I flew Qantas 767 from SIN to SYD via JKT, I was actually quite disappointed by the service. The cabin crew did not seem interested in their job or their customers. Definitely not the usual happy/cheery Aussie attitude I am used to!  Sad

Regards

p.s. What made you choose the airlines from Europe to Australia-price, schedules or something else?
 
daks
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Wed Nov 28, 2001 9:16 pm

Great report , brought back some memories of my trip to Oz via Bali on BA and QF.
Thanks
Paul
 
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Capt.Picard

Wed Nov 28, 2001 9:52 pm

We originally had a ticket with Singapore Airlines and Ansett. But as you know Ansett stopped in september. So we had to fight very hard to get a new ticket. And by that time we had to take whatever we could get.

The scenery flying from Ayers Rock to Sydney was great. Just after we took off, we had Ayers Rock jus down to our right. Otherwise it was just outback all the way with some lakes.

The flight from Sydney to Denpasar was almost nightflight all the way. But we saw some big fires in the outbag.

Megatop
 
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Thu Nov 29, 2001 10:34 am

Interesting to see that you have been to Sri Lanka. I am set to fly there in two weeks time. What was your impression of Sri Lanka, if you don't mind? Better than Australia?
 
megatop
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Zizou

Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:36 pm

Regarding Sri Lanka, this is perhaps the most wonderfull place in the World.

The beaches in ect. Bentota is about 50 m wide and is pure sand without rocks.

In the south there are some national parks with elephants, crocodilles etc etc.

In the center you must visit Candy, the old capital.

The only things than is keeping us from goeing there again is the Tamil War.

But if there should be peace in Sri Lanka, we would go there again.

Megatop

 
v jet
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Thu Nov 29, 2001 9:14 pm

Capt.Picard
You've always had to pay for alcoholic drinks in Australia be it with TAA/Australian Airlines/Qantas or even the defunct Ansett.
 
v jet
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Thu Nov 29, 2001 9:15 pm

Bugger!!! I meant to say in Y class you have to pay for the grog. Get it for free in J class.
 
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RE: V Jet

Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:59 am

I didn't find this the case on my An and QF internal flights in teh last 2 years. Got a few beers etc for no extra price. Maybe it has just come into existence?
Dan Valentine - Bad Ass MOFO Photographer
 
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Fri Nov 30, 2001 10:42 am

Thanks V Jet.

I'm slightly surprised, but if it means a slightly lower price, that's OK!

Regards
 
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RE:BA747-436

Sat Dec 01, 2001 8:50 am

The normal thing for years has been to pay for any alcoholic drinks in Y class. As far back as I can recall which is about 25 years! You may have been extra charming to the F/A and got them for free!
 
carmy
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Sat Dec 01, 2001 3:26 pm

That's very odd, paying for alcoholic drinks in Y class. Does this apply for the international routes as well?
 
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RE: Australia - Bali On BA And QF

Sat Dec 01, 2001 9:23 pm

On Qantas you pay for alcohol only on domestic routes.
God if you didnt charge for alcohol here the airline would go flat broke!!!

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