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Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Fri Jul 18, 2003 12:38 pm

I just got back from an eleven-flight itinerary, but I will only describe one, because the rest were routine.

I was about to board my first MD-90. It was Delta Flight 1007 from SLC to LAS, aircraft N912DN. As I entered the cabin, I noticed that it looked very much like a Delta MD-88, except the seats were 2-3 instead of 3-2, and the overhead bins had a handrail running under them. I sat down in seat 16E, a window seat on the right side. I had two people sitting next to me. The plane appeared to be full. As we taxied out, I noticed a flight attendant talking to a man about four rows ahead of me on the other side, and she appeared to be extremely upset. I tried to hear what was going on, but there was a crying three-year-old across the aisle, and it was hard to hear over him. Another passenger who could see and hear better told me the man was upset because he didn't want to stow his luggage properly for takeoff. The flight attendant went back up to her jumpseat for takeoff. Just as we turned onto the runway, the man got out of his seat and ran up toward the cockpit. I heard someone yell at him that we would return to the gate. Immediately the aircraft turned off the runway at the first turnoff, and we taxied back to the gate so fast that I thought a wingtip might scrape the ground as we turned. We went into a different gate, and there were emergency vehicles waiting. As soon as we stopped and the engines were shut down, the captain ran out of the cockpit and confronted the guy. I couldn't hear what he said, but then several security or police officers ran onto the plane and told the man to get up and go with them. He must have refused, because they jerked him out of his seat, and he fell on the floor against the bulkhead on the three-seat side, right on the passengers' feet. They finally got him up, and he came up swinging. He really put up a fight. It took four men to subdue him. After he was removed from the plane, some Delta executives in suits came aboard and asked if we were all right. Then some medics came aboard and checked out the passengers that had been in his way. Next, the flight attendants came around with forms for passengers to write about what they had seen. This went on for about an hour. A passenger across the aisle asked a flight attendant if she thought Delta would offer free drinks when we got airborne. She said that was not up to Delta, it was up to her. We finally took off about an hour and a half late. The flight attendants announced that since it was a short flight, an abbreviated beverage service was normally offered on that flight, which was a choice of lemonade, cranapple juice, or water. But she said that she thought they could bust their buns and offer a full beverage service with the cart, and cocktails were on the house.
I thought the Delta people handled this very well. The flight attendants were very friendly and performed admirably. The passengers all kept their cool. The only person I saw who showed any fear was an eight-year-old boy who said, "Daddy, I'm scared!" But his father calmed him down, and he was fine after they took the man off the plane. By the time we got to Las Vegas, many of the passengers had become friends. It was quite an experience.

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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Fri Jul 18, 2003 1:47 pm

Wow, thats crazy Bob. Sounds like it came to a good ending though, I'm glad.
 
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Fri Jul 18, 2003 2:06 pm

The Same type of incident happed to me on a WN flight from LAX to SLC a few months ago, only it was a woman. We turned off the runway just like you did during the takeoff roll. Although she refused to leave, she wasn't swinging  Smile That's pretty crazy. I wonder if it's on any local news here in SLC. (What is it about the crazy passengers flying to and from SLC  Smile ) Good that you got the full drinks, WN didn't offer anything for our delay, not even an explination...
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Fri Jul 18, 2003 10:56 pm

Gee..I wonder what was with the nut.
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Sat Jul 19, 2003 4:36 pm

Does Delta usually charge for drinks or something? I always feel good having F/As on board, just knowing they are trained for a lot of these situations, that may arrise on a flight.
 
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:24 am

Flyboy80:
The free drinks I was talking about were alcoholic beverages, which usually are not free. Sometimes when passengers are inconvenienced in some way they are offered without charge.

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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Sun Jul 20, 2003 5:33 pm

put 'em in jail! That'll teach him!
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:17 pm

Damn... it is at times like these you feel sorry for those FAs. They seem to bare the brunt of such lunatics. I am glad she managed to stand up to that loony. I am trying to think if this scene was similar to what happened on an SIA 777 a few weeks ago when they had a drunken Aussie on board. He became unruly and they plane diverted to Darwin en route from Singapore to Brisbane. That drunkard was made to pay for the diversion - some A$12000 plus in all!
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:50 pm

That is pretty strange. I'm glad it came to a good ending though. Very, very strange.
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:42 am

Bob, when is it happen?

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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:07 pm

Well thats definitly odd, Im glad that it all turned out well.
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:35 pm

Big777jet:
It happened on July 9. I was flying PHF-ATL-SLC-LAS. It was the last leg of my trip. If it had happened on an earlier leg I probably would have missed my connection.

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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:04 pm

If I was on that flight and the guy started running for the cockpit I would have got up and tackled him.

I guess there were no skymarshals aboard your flight?


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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:43 pm

wow, what an expirience!!!

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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Wed Jul 23, 2003 12:08 am

Bruce:
I immediately decided that there must not be any skymarshals aboard, or else they would have gone into action. And since this man was sitting about four rows ahead of me, and I would have had to jump over two people to get into the aisle, getting up and tackling him was not an option. He was already closer to the cockpit than I was. Somebody in first class would have had the best opportunity, but since they were sitting in front of him, they probably didn't see him get up, and by the time they saw him, he was already past them.

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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:39 am

Wow Bob, What an experience. UTAHlk about crazy people on airplanes. BTW -- What's with the skymarshal deal. I haven't noticed any on AirTran ever. Are they just on AA and UA?
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:11 am

What's with the skymarshal deal. I haven't noticed any on AirTran ever.

Not noticing them is sorta the whole point.
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Thu Jul 24, 2003 12:56 am

I saw some guy with a prominent ID card on a VIE-IAD OS hop...he looked like a marshal, and OS hires their own marshalls, from what I read, on that trip I felt really secure.
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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:53 am

That would have scared the black off me!!!! OMG!!!! I would have gotten off of the plane along with that guy. After September 11, 2001 I keep everyone under scrutiny (you never know)! I know it seems racist and it might be but it's only out of fear.

AirTran definitely has skymarshalls!!!! Every airline is ordered to have them and if you noticed them then their whole point of existence is blown. Of course, that definitely would keep someone from hijacking a plane.

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RE: Incident Aboard A Delta MD-90

Mon Aug 04, 2003 2:55 am

I can assure you, federal air marshals are on a LOT of our (AirTran) flights......and no, you'd never guess who they were.

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