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Finland Away: HEL-CPH-HEL With SK

Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:27 pm

having been to all Finland away games (football) since last season I thought I could skip the Denmark game at Parken, Copenhagen - I been to the city a few times and this was a friendly anyways. but hey, at the end of the day couldn´t resist the pull of away travel. also I had some SAS miles to spend so this wouldn´t mess my budget too much.

wed 20.8.03
HEL 13.15
CPH 14.15
SK711 SAS (Scandinavian Commuter) de Havilland Q400
/ economy

for some strange reason I had difficulty getting a seat to fly to CPH in the afternoon. I mean, it´s loads of SAS flights leaving from Helsinki around that time; there's 3 flights leaving between 12.50 and 13.15! I got booked to SK711 leaving at 13.15. I arrived at the airport around 50 minutes before departure, having said that I have a summer job at the airport so I only needed to walk like 10 minutes to the terminal. check-in was really fast, but I got a bit suspicious when I realised the gate would be 26a - which means a bus to the plane. while waiting for the flight, I sorted out some local currency - can´t believe these people don´t use euros, would be much easier for the Finnish supporters. yep, boarding started at 12,50 and we were taken to a dH Q400 standing in front of the terminal. I had earlier flown on a SAS turboprop to ARN but didn´t really expect to board one when flying out to CPH in the afternoon. I was glad to see the plane was almost full - I reckon the company needs every penny they can get. to be honest, I got totally bored during the 90+ minutes of the flight. only had a pre-match white wine with the stale bun offered - was a bit too shy to ask for extra rounds of drinks as I was flying on my own.

20.8.03 K.O. 19.15 Parken, Copenhagen Denmark-Finland 1-1
arrived at Kastrup around two and bought a return ticket at 45DKK to Østerport, which is a 10-minute walk from the ground – by the way, full credit to the city´s public transport system, it´s very reliable and affordable. I had some difficulty finding my way to the stadium as I had only been there once earlier. After asking maybe 5 people for directions I found the DBU (the Danish F.A.) office and got the tix for me and mates. The guys were still at the U21s game so I decided to have some pre-match pints. The standard appears to be 40DKK (maybe 5,5euros) for a pint. Nothing special happened before the game except for the fact that I got well pissed as I only had time in my hands – strange enough, I had to speak swedish with some of the locals who couldn´t / didn´t bother to speak english. Yep, the game was as uneventful as expected and at half-time we were 1-0 down, which is really typical for us. A few minutes before end I was about to leave for the airport when Aki Riihilahti diverted a free-kick into the Danes´ net – we were absolutely delighted with the 1-1 draw and sang our hearts out. For once we were able to sing “sneaking out” to the home fans leaving the ground!

wed 20.8.03
CPH 22.45
HEL 01.35
SK718 SAS (Scandinavian Commuter) de Havilland Q400
/ business

I was in a real hurry to get back to the airport and had to run back to the station. But hey who cares if your average national team score an away goal – for me this was a great night out. I was back at Kastrup maybe 45 mins before departure but I had already checked in at Helsinki so there was no real hurry. The airport was really quiet at that time of night and I made my way to the deserted SAS lounge to have a coffee and check results from other games. Boarding started at 22.20 and again there was a bus transfer for another turboprop flight. As the flight was pretty full I had to book a business class ticket for that flight – this really is not worth it as the only benefit you get is the meal, which is not that special at the end of the day. In Copenhagen I have lounge access anyways so even that doesn´t make any difference. After a few minutes’ taxy the captain made an announcement that we´d have to return as there were some probs with “artificial horizon” or something – I personally don´t understand anything about this stuff anyways. Our plane was parked and the captain announced we would get another plane “soon”. After maybe half an hour they arranged us another aircraft and we walked some 100 metres and boarded it. Although it was getting late and people were tired of the hassle, I will have to admit that the personnel handled the situation quite well keeping us informed of what was happening and how long this all would take. No troubles with the second attempt and we started towards Helsinki. The food and service in business were not worth mentioning. Dessert was two pieces of chocolate, huh. Well, I didn´t really care as I wasn´t paying anything for the flight anyways. Again, I was just glad to see the cabin full both in business and economy – hope to see SAS around in future as well. The journey back home went ok but we landed around 2.45, some 70 minutes after scheduled time. The airport in Helsinki was empty and there were only some people trying to sleep in the hallway between international and domestic terminals. I headed back to the office as I would have to start work at 8 again. To be honest, I was slightly surprised to find myself lying on the office floor in the morning – just wonder why I didn´t sleep on the sofa, maybe I was just confused as Finland didn´t lose away...

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RE: Finland Away: HEL-CPH-HEL With SK

Sat Aug 23, 2003 1:36 am

Excellent report! Is it common practice to use the props on a route like that? Did you find the Q400 particularly comfortable, compared to other props?
Good to hear they handled the delay quite well at CPH... Shouldnt have been to much of a hassle for them finding another Dash, as most were probably parked for the night the time you were supposed to depart!

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RE: Finland Away: HEL-CPH-HEL With SK

Mon Aug 25, 2003 8:42 am


thank you for the feedback!

SAS have certainly increased the number of turboprop flights from HEL to ARN and CPH. My opinion is that 90 mins is pretty much but at he end of the day it still doesn´t make much difference. I reckon some of the lighter departures during the day are ok for HEL-ARN but I didn´t realise that the last bank at CPH would be that quiet - leaving for HEL at 22.45.

You're right in assuming that there were lots of Q400s available at that time!

Q400 is totally ok and I have no complaints whatsoever. Anyways, I have flown IQ from MUC to LEJ and BLQ - do they have a different seating arrangement on their aircraft as I found it much nicer or am I totally mistaken somewhere? Isn´t it Q400 on these routes?

I would still say that Finnair's ATR-72s are much nicer - I have flown them on domestic routes every now and then. Yet I have to say that here the biggest factors are that the load factors are low and flights are shorter, which makes it more enjoyable. Perhaps the best turboprop flight for me has been the morning hop on Crossair Saab2000 from LEJ to ZRH early in the morning - great service, nice breakfast and comfortable seats. In a way I also enjoy flying Golden Air's domestic Saab340 services here: it's a noisy ride to some small airport in finland, which I always find a bit exotic - I drink my coffee and enjoy the view, absolutely great!
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RE: Finland Away: HEL-CPH-HEL With SK

Wed Aug 27, 2003 4:15 pm

Great trip report!

BTW as a Finn do you prefer SAS or Finnair?

I used to prefer SAS but i guess Finnair's service got better with the new livery so now I definitely choose Finnair...

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RE: Finland Away: HEL-CPH-HEL With SK

Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:01 pm

strange enough, I had to speak swedish with some of the locals who couldn´t / didn´t bother to speak english.

That's mainly because Danish people's ability to understand Swedish grow as they become more drunk Big grin

As for why we're still sticking to the DKK, ask the extreme right- & left-wing wings here in Denmark. One side is ultra-nationalistic and considers the DKK a sacred treasure on the line with out flag & language. The other considers the EU a capitalistic organisation on the line with McDonalds & Coca Cola  Insane

[Edited 2003-08-30 11:03:50]
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RE: Finland Away: HEL-CPH-HEL With SK

Sun Aug 31, 2003 6:09 am

Nice report, Okko.

I might be going to Helsinki in March and I cannot wait to catch a Jokerit hockey game at Hartwall!
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RE: Finland Away: HEL-CPH-HEL With SK

Sun Aug 31, 2003 7:17 pm

Thanks again for your feedback!

"BTW as a Finn do you prefer SAS or Finnair?"
- I very much prefer SAS and LH to Finnair. The main reasons are the faster check-in at HEL and a superior bonus programme (LH's M&M). If I'm paying for the flights, I tend to choose SK.

yep, the Danish right-wing have really got their share of publicity around Europe. As for keeping DKK, I reckon the discussion is along the same lines in Sweden currently - and we had all those arguments a few years ago. Just convert to euro, it's only the name of the currency you will lose...

"That's mainly because Danish people's ability to understand Swedish grow as they become more drunk"
- sounds like we have something in common then! But hey, Danish people appear to have a good sense of humour - at least what I have seen during my trips to Denmark.

if you need any info regarding your trip to Finland, let me know. I'm not a big hockey fan though and the last time I saw a game was at Nassau coliseum...

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RE: Finland Away: HEL-CPH-HEL With SK

Mon Sep 01, 2003 2:00 am

I'm not a big hockey fan though and the last time I saw a game was at Nassau coliseum...

At least you saw the right team play!  Big thumbs up

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