Matt D
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SNA-EWR And Back: Continental

Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:31 am

Brief, and right to the point.

Monday, October 13, 2003:

Orange County-Newark:

Continental #186

737-700 (N54711)

Departed on time, arrived 20 minutes early. Excellent flight. Plane was a little full, but that's a good thing. Service was friendly, courteous, and professional. The pilot warning about the steep takeoff from SNA was also a nice touch (He wasn't kidding). Food also wasn't bad: an egg and cheese buscuit along with some yogurt, a blueberry muffin, and a cup of pineapples and grapes, plus choice of drink.

Wednesday, October 22 2003:

Continental #287

737-700 (N21723)

It took about 20 minutes from the time of pushback until actual takeoff. Once airborne, it was pretty much a repeat of the first flight: Courteous, friendly, and professional flightcrews. Meal was the same. A few bumps here and there, but nothing major. Flight arrived at SNA 25 minutes early, and as a result, we had to sit in the penalty box for most of those 25 minutes while we waited for gate 11 to clear. I guess sometimes firewalling it can end up working against you. I mean what's the point of getting there early if we have to wait out that time on the taxiway?

In short, I had no complaints with CO (I never did in the past), the only thing I would suggest is maybe for the FA's to lighten up a bit. I mean yes, they were nice and professional, and really what more can I ask for, but in spite of that, they had no personality either; the food service was somewhat mechanical.

Now about the TSA.

At SNA, they were really something. It was, in all honesty, very hard not to smile. The one guy, I guess he was the "lead" on duty assumed not only the role of screening passengers, but that of Carnival Barker as well: "Step up...step up please....check out our brand new XYZ-2000 screening machines...all of you paid for it, so c'mon down.....!!!! who's the next lucky contestant on 'Who wants To Fly Safe?' Ma''re the lucky one......if you could please be so kind as to step this way please.......Step up step up please....check out our brand new...........I hope none of you have athletes foot...." and so it went. I had to give the guy props for trying to make the best out of a situation no one is enjoying. And for the most part, it worked. I was smiling, and most of the people I saw around me were smiling as well.

Since this was my first post 9/11 trip through security, I wasn't sure what to expect. I decided not to take any chances, so when it was my turn to pass through, I took my belt and shoes off, even though I was afraid that my shorts would drop down to my ankles.

The TSA in EWR (at least what I encountered), was, to sum it up: bland, indifferent, and really couldn't be bothered as far as the job at hand. On the plus side, they moved very quickly, and offered a "have a nice day".

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RE: SNA-EWR And Back: Continental

Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:10 am

Hey Matt, last spring I flew the same route, EWR to SNA on CO 737-700 N27277. It was a great flight also. Glad to hear you liked your flight
BTW, do you live near Costa Mesa? I have a cousin that lives there.
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RE: SNA-EWR And Back: Continental

Thu Oct 30, 2003 6:35 am

How can a security check be described as 'bland'? What did you expect, Carnival Barker? Oh, right.
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RE: SNA-EWR And Back: Continental

Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:48 pm

Glad you had a good experience. Personally, I won't fly CO 73Gs long-haul due to the very tight seat pitch.

I always enjoy flying out of of the more "user-friendly" airports, and I love the takeoff.
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RE: SNA-EWR And Back: Continental

Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:49 pm

Steep noise abatement climb for a quiet plane like the 737-700. Hmmm, wonder how the local neighborhood would react if a non-hushkitted 737-100/200 flew over.
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RE: SNA-EWR And Back: Continental

Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:29 am

The EWR-SNA flight is so incredibly long on a 73G. I did that last year and it's a tough one to sit through. And we sat there for about 15-20 minutes also while a gate was being used.

Yesterday I flew EWR-SFO which is another 6 hour flight on a 738. It was by far one of the worst flights. The seats were cramped and the people on it were obnoxious.


As far as SNA goes, back in the day they used to fly old 737s and possibly 727s too...The noise abatement is a relatively new thing that started in the late 80s. At least I don't ever remember it being a big deal before the 80s. I think that's when the rich people in Newport Beach and Corona del Mar figured out that they had clout.
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RE: SNA-EWR And Back: Continental

Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:23 am

Isn't it funny, that just when next-generation, quieter aircraft come along, people start sqawking about aircraft "noise" (I call is MUSIC)?
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RE: SNA-EWR And Back: Continental

Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:56 am

I've flown on this flight on several occassions. First time was when it was still a 757. The 73G is great on a transcon if you have an open seat next to you. I find it a lot more intimate and the service is quicker than on the bigger planes. However, as a non-rev I've also had the opportunity to also fly this route sitting in a middle seat.

To make the flight more bareable I suggest the following:

-after take-off, place those items you have stowed underneath the seat in front of you, behind your legs. You'll have more space to stretch and will be a lot more comfortable.

- I like to place a pillow below my lower back. Those seats on COs 700/800/900 can be kind of on the hard side.

-avoid the last row as well as the row right in front of the emergency exist. They do not recline.

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