AZ
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Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:23 pm

I left Hyatt Hotel in CDG very early in the morning and after 10 minutes I entered the airport for checking in.

A very kind lady at the first class counter, did everything in less than 2 minutes and she informed me that the business class was booked by 10 pax only. I was really glad but soon she told me that economy class was overbooked so they would upgrade many pax and that at that time the business class cabin would be full. She then informed me that if they needed more seats, I would be upgraded to First class.

I cleared immigration and entered the Business Class lounge that is not bad, with a lot of space and at least 8 PC. Wireless internet access is also available.

Soon the boarding time arrived.
To my surprise, there were no separate lines for First/Business class pax.



As soon as I boarded the plane, a very kind F/A escorted to my seat, 7B which is in the second section of Business class. The seat is not really comfortable but also not really uncofortable; soon they will be repalced by new lie-flat bed.


Boarding took a lot of time and we took off almost 1 hour late.

The flight time, due to very tail strong wind, was expected to be around 12:30 hours.

After the seat bealt sign had been turned off, I checked if there were any 2 seats empty, and surprisingly, I found 2 of them in the first section of business class.

I then moved there and a F/A took all my stuff and helped me to get to my new seat. Very nice indeed.








Soon, aperitive were served and I had a glass of Bordeaux red wine, which was not very good.

Meal started minutes later and I must say that the variety and quantity of food, was not very impressive. Anyway, I had a crab salad, not bad, some fish that was not too good, some mushrooms rice and a nice plate of french cheese, which is always good on Air France.




Dessert, tea and a real espresso coffee, were served at the end of the meal.

After the service, the lights were dimmed and then turned off so I tried to watch a movie that in this case was Matrix reloaded. Really don’t like it. I then turned on my laptop and a F/A came to me and asked if I was a pilot since I was browsing my thousands pics of planes. My answer obviously was, no I’m not.
I then asked her if it was possible to have my logbook filled in and she immediately took it to the cockpit.




At that point I started to feel a little sick because of my usual stomach problem which, I don’t know why, is really stronger when I am flying. After 4 hours into the flight, I tried to have some sleep, helping me with a few drops of Valium, but as my previous hundreds flights, nothing happened, no way to sleep. At that point I was feeling very bad, so bad that a F/A asked me if everything was O.K. She helped me a lot with a cup of tea, some water and they also offered me some medicines that never works when I am flying.

I guess every 20 minutes the same F/A came to ask me how I was feeling. I found this crew very very professional. Well, time fortunately passed, even if very very slowly, and 2 hours before landing, a dinner were served. I was a little bit better so I had some fish and a plate of cheese.

A cup of espresso coffe, and I was ready to land in Manila.

The plane started the descent and I started to feel bad again, this time the pain was even stronger. I reclined my seat again and prayed to land very soon. Announcement to have the seats in the upright position was made but I was not able to do that. The crew allowed me to land with the seat reclined and I must say it is very a nice experience. We touched down as scheduled and after a short taxy, we reached the finger.

I then deplaned and went immediately to my Hotel to have a rest and I feel much much better now.

Well, Air France is a good airline, I had a very good service, as soon as they change their seats, it will be one of the best, I’m sure. Thanks to the crew for their attentive service.

Sorry if this trip report is quite long.

Daniele.
P.S.
For more pics visit: http://www.aviationjet.com

 
sushka
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:18 pm

Nice report. So was it a 777 or A340? It sounds like the crew was really nice.
On my experience this summer on an AF A321 and 777 they were not that nice.

Id love to try the A340!
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:01 am

Have a look at the cabin pics, it has the windows and overhead compartments of the A340.

Cool report! Always love to read those with photos attached to it. Hope your stomach is feeling better. Was it motion sickness you suffered in-flight?
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:57 am

I think that logbook pic is mixed up the sectors, a/c and regs dont match
 
AZ
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:40 am

Hi,
yes it was an A340-300. I never had any bad service with AF. Sometimes it is average, but most of the times very nice.

Ryanair,
no, it was not motion sickness. I always have pain in my stomach, don't know yet why, but when I fly long haul, it is getting worse, sometimes like on that flight, I think I have to die soon. I have a long trip next month and if I'm not able to discover what's wrong with my stomach, I will cancel it for sure. Don't want to die on a plane !

MAS A330,
yes the logbook seems to be related to another flight. Don't know what happened to my website yet. Will try to fix it ASAP also because the captain, attached a small sticker to it and it is funny to see.

Bye from foggy Italy.
Daniele
 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sat Nov 22, 2003 12:49 pm

Great report...how did you like Manila?
 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:43 pm

where is manilla and how long was this flight?
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:23 pm

"where is manilla and how long was this flight?"

Are you serious? This is just one example of how much the AMERICAN school system teaches students about the world...for the love of god.

 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:15 am

Manila is in The Philippines and the flying time, 13:00 hrs

 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sun Nov 23, 2003 2:37 am

What amazes me is that the people in these forums obviously have the computer literacy to use the messages boards, but don't have the common sense to go to Yahoo! and type in Manila. If they had done so, about two seconds later they would have their answer. On a related note, the same can be said about people who post topics such as "how much from A to B?" or "does ABC Airline fly to A?" Sorry, I digress...
 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sun Nov 23, 2003 3:02 am

This is just one example of how much the AMERICAN school system teaches students about the world...for the love of god.

Ahhh come on,  Smile we both went to American schools and obviously know where Manila is. Hell I even know what a Manila envelope is. Its not America's schools fault.


[Edited 2003-11-22 19:04:07]
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:15 am

Great trip report! Glad you enjoyed your trip on Air France.

Christian  Smile

PS: LOL, I don't think the problem is only in the US, here in Switzerland, most in my class don't even know what the capital of Italy, Germany (an example, one said "I don't know the capital of Rome...") or other European countries are. During the Iraq war, when Iraq was on the headlines on every newspaper and TV station, they didn't even know who Saddam or where Iraq was, and to make things more ironic, they were against the war. Big grin
 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sun Nov 23, 2003 1:49 pm

Nice report AZ ... I like the photos to compliment the report  Smile Always interested to read about our passengers on board experiences.



ATTN SUSHKA,

I would be very interested to know more about your experience on AF321 BOS-CDG ... feel free to write me an e-mail ... you'll find out why I'm more interested.
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sun Nov 23, 2003 3:28 pm

LOT767-300ER-
I was just asking a question i dont believe your criticism is necessary!
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AZ
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:39 pm

FLpuck6,
are you an AF F/A?

Bye.
Daniele
 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Mon Nov 24, 2003 4:19 am

Stop making broad generalizations about the American school system. I am at university and I could point out any country on a map if you would like. The problem is not the school system, but the students themselves. They will only learn some of the information if they want to. Go boil an egg or something.
 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:48 am

thanks AZ for a great trip report. aswell i have to give compliments to your
homepage, well made.

salute DALelite
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AZ
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:21 am

Hi guys,
here is the correct logbook of the flight.

Bye.
Daniele
 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:04 am

AZ, great report indeed. Seems like Air France is a whole lot different in Business than in Economy. I remember having bad experiences with them CDG-FDF-ORY and on other flights in Europe. I avoided them ever since...
The captain's and FO's names, Ringenbach and Weber, sound like they are Germans. Or maybe from Alsace?
Another compliment should go out to your homepage, nice work  Big thumbs up

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AZ
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:51 am

PanAmerican,
I don't know how is the service in Y, but I can tell that each flight I had with them, I received a good service. Of course, sometimes outsdanding, sometimes just average.
Funny is that the worst, but still good, service I had, was on a flight from Shanghai to Paris in First class; really average.

As you know it depends on which crew you find on board.

Regarding crew's names, yes they were from France and for sure from Alsace.

Really glad you like my website.

Bye.
Daniele
 
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:50 am

Flpuck6 It was not AF321 but an Air France Airbus A321 SVO-CDG.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Nice loggbook entry AZ! Where do you get those?
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RE: Paris-Manila AF Business Class

Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:47 pm

Ok Shuska, thanks anyway!

AZ, not an AF f/a but where I am I am responsible for our aircraft's on time departures!!!

Great report again.
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