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Sun Nov 23, 2003 7:31 am

I decided that I was sick of flying NW, and that I would spend the extra $40 to fly home on AC. I opted for the nonstop AC929 FLLYUL A321. The night before I called to waitlist myself, the flight was prettyfull with over 20nonrevs on the list all ahead of me. So they offered me a connection in the T-Dot.

Naturally I cringed at the idea of adding one more passenger to that airpor  Big thumbs up. But the agent told me that I was gonna ride on the A330-300 from YYZ to YUL, so that was the only reason why I accept such an option.

AC1231 A320-200 C-FFWM FLLYYZ Nov19th gate H7

The A320 popped in amongst a sea of Spirit planes in the H concourse. Air Jamaica had just pushed back from the gate. It was going to KIN then MBJ.

There were 50 revenue pax on this flight, and 6 nonrevs. About 10 pax going to YUL, and another 7 to YQB. Other pax going to YOW. We pushed back, and headed over to runway 27R.

At 27R, a SW 737 was in the distance, so here came the CFM roar and next thing you know we where heading westbound. Turned right over the Pompano general aviation airport and over to the ocean. WE passed over the Bahamas and grabbed our routing to YYZ.

Meal onboard was Tortellini with chesse, with a bean salad and a brownie for desert. SOOOO much better than anything ever served on NW. AC leg room was generous, and the seats quite wide. I thorougly enjoyed what was offered until..

We hit severe turbulence all the way to YYZ, there were storms all over the East Coast at low and high altitudes. No way to fly around, over, or below it. So naturally the plane slowed down, and we got bounced all over the place. One pax behind me barffed up his meal, and I was feeling very woozy as well.

I notice that everytime i fly the A320, we get bounced around always. I find Boeing aircraft to be much smoother rides, just my opinion of course.

So we got to YYZ finally, and it felt like forever with this turbulence. Next thing you know we were turning base for runway 24R at YYZ. We landed smoothly, taxied over to gate 247. First time connecting at YYZ, probably the last.... We went into this tunnel that took us to Canadian customs. In front of me where 6 Indian people going to DEL coming off an SFO plane. Naturally it took a while for them to be processed, and I was behind them.

After connecting, I was lead into Terminal 2. I then had the take the escalator up to the main floor to checkin at rapidair. They offered me any seat on the A330-300, but I was surprised. The flight was booked very heavy. I selected 35K, otherwise I would have had a seat in the center aft section.

AC 142 YYZYUL C-GHKR A330-300 gate 221.

Plane was there, it was inbound from YVR, with about 50 or 60 thru's.

We boarded the plane, and I was immediately impressed by the size of this aircraft. However I was not impressed by the width of the seat. It was very tigh for a slim guy like me, but the leg room was quite generous. I had a good view of the wingspan, which is awesome. Definitely the sexiest part of this aircraft.

We pushed back, and I realized what I always loved about spotting the A330-300, the noise the engine makes. It almost sounds like a whole when the engines are reving up like a "Hoooooooo" type noise.

We taxied over to runway 23, and YYZ wasnt so busy. 2 A340-300's at T1, at T2 about 10 or so A319/21s, T3 had 1 CJ, 1 SG, 1 BA 744, KL 772 (sweet), AF 332, DL/US Crj's, and an NW SF3.

We were first for departure on 23, we lifted off to intercept Gopev intersection. From there a direct route to Massena NY Vor. Perhaps a Franx arrival for runway 24R at YUL? It wasnt the case.

The flight was bumpy but not as bad as the panzy A320-200. Very powerful aircraft, very graceful, but noisy in the cabin.

We had the weirdest YUL approach ive seen in a while. We were towards Montreal, when we did a 180 and turned back. After about 2-3 minutes, we turned right, another right turn for runway 10. Runway 10 is about 7500 ft and I was exicted to see this big bird reverse hard in order to make it off the runway.

The approach was extremely windy, so we were going side to side naturally. Until we literally hit the runway very hard, and reversed onto a wet runway. We exited at the end, when it got weirder.

Our gate was 33. Those unfamiliar with YUL, its on the aeroquay which is an ugly old satelitte terminal out on the tarmac. Once inside, the ceilings are low, the walls are made of brick, you pretty much feel like your in a bomb shelter. Our gate was occupied by an AC A330-300 that was inbound from LHR (AC865). They pushed it out, and we made our way in.

At gate 33, you need to walk down stairs to make it down to the main floor. There were several old people, and they took time to get down. So the 225 or so other pax had to wait behind them.

Then from here on it was the small and crowded tunnel that takes you back to the main terminal.

I saw my girlfriend, but generally I felt sick. Sick of flying, and physically sick from the bumps and the general strain of travelling.

Love the A330-300..

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Sun Nov 23, 2003 12:21 pm


This is ecxellent trip report, Mark! Those flight was very good for yourself on their way to YYZ and also, I was flew on internetional flight from FCO-JFK and I ate that meal is Tortellini with chesse and it is very good meal for me from 2 years ago on March 2001. This is very long flight by their way to JFK for my connecting to FLL. So what are you still think about security screening at front of ticket counter in FLL? How is they was doing? Is that was no problems at all? Well, talk ya later!  Smile

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Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:58 pm

Hey Again Mark,

Yeah T2 at YYZ is a dump. My first trip to YYZ we parked at T2 and I was dissapointed to be honest (sorry YYZ guys). I felt like I was travelling through some eastern block airport, no windows, brick walls painted in outdated colours, low ceiling, crappy worn out carousels. Not a good first impression of one of the worlds larger airports.

Regarding NW meal service. I've flown NW both here and on their Asian/pacific rim routes. Their Asian/pacific rim meal service is MUCH better than their North American stuff. Mind you, they have to compete with JAL, SQ, CX and the likes so I guess it's no wonder.

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Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:17 pm

Nice report again. As far as the meal service goes, I have flown a few flights between Florida and Detroit/Minneapolis. In First Class I have never been anything but pleased when a meal is served. Dare I say it, I found the food to be of a higher quality and quantity than a certain COdeshare partner.

Sick of flying, and physically sick from the bumps and the general strain of travelling.

You have my sympathy. I know exactly how you feel. Though my flights are normally triple the flying time of these, but none the less, we all know what it feels like to finally get home!  Big grin

Regarding NW meal service. I've flown NW both here and on their Asian/pacific rim routes. Their Asian/pacific rim meal service is MUCH better than their North American stuff. Mind you, they have to compete with JAL, SQ, CX and the likes so I guess it's no wonder.

While I agree that Northwest is definitely better Internationally, I still think they lag behind when compared to the International competition. None the less they provide a very reliable product that I think has only gotten better with the A330 these days. I won't lie, I may be a Platinum with World Perks, but most of those miles are from KLM & Continental. I have noticed a steady improvement in Northwest's service these days and hope that continues as they have the potential to be a very good airline.

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