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Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Sun May 16, 2004 11:07 pm

Hello everybody,

as you may know, LH used to operate some A340-200, chiefly serving the US east coast, Central Asia and Africa. While their passenger configuration and was just right for these destinations, their long range capabilities were obviously wasted on these short routes - pearly before swine, so to speak.
So, LH ordered ten A330-300 as a replacement. As a stop-gap measure, they leased five A330-200, two ex-Sabena ("33Z" in company lingo) and three ex-Swissair ("332").

On March 3, 2004, the days of the new "Kilo-class" at LH finally started, when D-AIKA was delivered. (Revenue flights started on March 16.)


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Meanwhile, KB and KC joined the fleet as well, on March 19 and 31, respectively.


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Since no A330 was ever present at the ILA, the bi-annual air show at Berlin´s Schoenefeld airport, and LH apparently wanted to show off their new C class seats, it was decided that an LH 333 would be included in the static display at the http://www.ila2004.de .

The plane would obviously have to be ferried in from F.RA where she´s based. Also, the LH head honchoes concluded that it would be a waste to fly 221 empty seats to SXF. So the Lufthanseat, LH´s weekly company newspaper set up a draw in which 200 of those seats were given away to an LH employee and a maximum of two travel companions. I suppose the other seats were kept in reserve in case some VIP or somebody on an official trip would require one of those.
A friend of mine and me both entered the draw, naming each other as second companion. He won, I didn´t. Neat-o!


Saturday, May 15, 2004
Frankfurt RheinMain to Berlin Schoenefeld
LH 8944
0815-0920
A330-343X, D-AIKA, "Minden", delivered March 3, 2004


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We had been instructed to come to three check-in counters in the priority area in terminal 1 A one hour prior to departure. We arrived at about 0700, greeted by the screens saying "Special ILA Flight - LH 8944 - Berlin Schoenefeld" and a crowd of merry colleagues in holiday mood. (Though I noticed a couple of suits clutching travel order forms, so they´d go on official business.)

Check-in was fast and efficient - logical, with nobody bringing any bags to be checked.
We got our boarding passes for both flights; I noticed that my sequence number was three lower on the return - meaning three people had apparently opted to stay longer in Berlin and passed on the return flight.

Boarding was such a breeze as well: it was completed in no more than five minutes. Sure, using two fingers contributed to this as well, but it was obvious that the passengers on this flight were pro travellers, meaning everybody knew where to go, what to do and how to stow his hand luggage without slowing the process around him. On this occasion, a scary thought crossed my mind: if this flight was to crash, LH would have a major problem. Other companies have policies limiting the permitted number of colleagues on the same a/c for this very reason...

We were off blocks at 0822 and took off at 0832. During taxi, we went past KB and KC as well, meaning the whole Kilo-class fleet was present at F.RA at the same time.
The crew was very nice and it was clear that this was a special flight for them as well. Except the security ballet which was the standard one, coming from tape, all announcements were made in German only, mostly starting with "dear colleagues, dear children..."
Service consisted of the usual one drink - in my case, a piccolo bottle of Metternich champagne to celebrate the special occasion.

Let me take this opportunity to comment a bit on this brand new a/c. While the type itself is of course not new, I found some interesting details which distinguish this newest member of the LH family from the others.
For KA, btw, that day´s ferry hops were flights number 205 and 206 with a total flying time of only about 740 hours.

- There are PTV boxes installed under the window and centre seats (A, E, F, K) in each row. They take up about 40 % of legroom and hence are a pain in the ass.

- The Y class seats have more legroom - because the seat backs are much thinner, hence very hard and very uncomfortable, I was glad I had to sit on them for just an hour; have fun on your EZE flight...

- There are two armrests between the centre seats E and F - meaning that every passenger has one armrest all to himself.

- The reading lights dim out

- There´s a central ventilation and no more individual air vents.

- The reclining seat backs don´t snap back but return smoothly to the upright position.

- The No Smoking/Fasten Seat Belt signs are very nice silver-grey LED displays, very pleasing to the eye.

- There are mirrors on the baggage lockers´ ceiling: a small stewardess can now easily check the bottom for left items.

- There are cup holders on each Y class seat.

- The nets of the seast pockets look quite good but are very tight.

- There are windows in the C and F class toilets.

- There are no toilets in the very back; I´m sure countless pax will first make their way there only to be sent away by the steward(esse)s.

- The toilet flush is much more gentle and less violent than previous ones.


Shortly before landing (after 54 minutes at 0926) the further procedures were lined out to us: we´d stop shortly on the taxiway, allowing an ILA organiser and his counterpart at LH to board. While our plane would be manoeuvred into her display position, they´d do a short speech and shoot some pics for the "Lufthanseat".
The manoeuvre of parking between the 340-600 and 318 in Airbus colours was then quite complicated and time-consuming, so we weren´t on-blocks until 0944.


A great day at SXF followed. I´ll go into more detail as soon as some pics are added to the database, but there were some most impressive flight displays.


Saturday, May 15, 2004
Berlin Schoenefeld to Frankfurt RheinMain
LH 8945
1630-1740
A330-343X, D-AIKA, "Minden", delivered March 3, 2004


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Our boarding pass said boarding was to be at 1610. We were told, though, to just go to the gangway at around 1545. I was there at 1530 or so, with the sightseeing tours still being in full swing. Huge crowds were still forming at the entrances. Shortly thereafter, some security guy announced that visiting was not possible any longer, those who were not yet standing on the gangway would need to come back in two years. People were a bit disgruntled, especially those at the front of the queue. I didn´t really understand this; I mean an LH 330 is just a normal plane - there was the A300 Super Transporter, a Luftwaffe flying hospital, and they queue at an LH 330??? Whatever floats your boat...

The last visitors had left the a/c at about 1550, ten minutes later we were let on board via the 2L door only. The only thing that was checked (by the flight crew) was the boarding pass; since they didn´t have the capacity to tear off and collect the larger end of the boarding pass, they just tore into it - meaning that we were to keep the whole thing, a nice premiere for me. I do hope the ILA visitors who - unlike us LH pax - had to enter through a normal entrance, had to pass a security check.

Boarding was completed very fast again, so we went off blocks eleven minutes early at 1619. Manoeuvring out our tight parking spot was again a bit awkward, plus we had to hold at the runway threshold until some flight display was over, so we were airborne at 1640. Without a safety demo this time - I guess the crew assumed we still knew it from eight hours ago.

The flight was again in a very cheerful atmosphere with pax and crew alike sharing their personal ILA stories. I had another champagne (Menger Krug this time, a bit inferior to the Metternich on the morning flight [should have been a tad more dry]).
We had a good tail wind, giving us a ground speed of up to 930 km/h. At F.RA however, the wind came from the usual western directions, so, coming from the East, we were just about right to land. Due to these factos, we could have made it in a record time, touching down at about 1720 after just 40 minutes flight. But at some stage, while were already lined up with the runway and being on final approach, I noticed we were a bit too high for my liking, plus the gear had not been extended. I´ve done this approach quite a few times and I was sure that on previous occasions we had been lower and the gear was down. And I was right: shortly afterwards, we stopped losing altitude and speed and overflew the runway in I guess 1500 ft. Ok I thought, maybe the wind has turned, we´ll fly a turn over Mainz and land from the West.
But no: We sure did turn over Mainz, but only to pass F.RA to the North and line up from the East once again. This time, the landing ensued (at 1728, still very short flying time). The cabin crew came on and announced "Welcome to F.RA, etc., thanks a lot to everybody involved for this flight, etc., it was a special flight for all of us, etc." upon which the cabin erupted in frenetic applause. Then she said the Captain had just informed her why the first approach had been "a bit scary": Boys are boys, when they get a new toy, they want to try it - in other words, show off that nice new a/c and have a nice ending to a nice day. Sure I thought, if you wanted to do a fly-by costing thousands of Euro you´d do it at F.RA where nobody gives a damn and not at SXF in front of thousands of spectators.  Yeah sure

We arrived at the gate at 1734 the crew said good bye and informed us, that the local Frankfurt football club had just gained three points in their desperate struggle against relegation. The cabin expressed their joy again through some applause while I didn´t care: my club had become this season´s Champion the previuos week. Big grin

Upon leaving the plane I went to the cockpit and asked whether that low pass had really been intentional: of course it was not: "We were a bit fast on finals, so we decided it would be better to just try again." Aha, though so.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy So, another premiere: After 17 years of flying, my first ever go around. It was not really a bad experience, but the feeling was somehow strange. I hope it´ll take at least another 17 years until the next one.


Again, I´ll tell you more about the great day at SXF as soon as I can back it up with some pics - so, photographers and screeners, hurry up  Wink/being sarcastic  Laugh out loud

Looking forward to your comments and questions.

Thanks,

Daniel Smile
 
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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Mon May 17, 2004 12:54 am

Sounds great! Must be great to go on a special flight like that - and a go-around too, what more could you want?!?
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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Mon May 17, 2004 2:27 am

Lucky bugger! Smile

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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Mon May 17, 2004 3:55 am

Sounds like an amazing trip  Big grin

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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Mon May 17, 2004 5:56 am

Hi Daniel,

great report - you were really lucky to be on that special trip!  Big thumbs up

since they didn´t have the capacity to tear off and collect the larger end of the boarding pass, they just tore into it - meaning that we were to keep the whole thing, a nice premiere for me
As you mention this: I also once could keep the whole boarding pass - it was on a regular DBA-flight NCE-STR. Nobody at NCE cared about tearing off the large part of it - it wasn't even torn into. Really strange.

The go around with such a big plane must have been quite impressive (I only once had a go around at LEJ on an An 24 sightseeing flight).

I also found your description of the interior of the A 330 quite interesting. There is no first class in the A 330-300, is there?
By the way: was the Business Class also occupied on these special flights or did they leave it empty?

Once again, thanks for the report - I enjoyed reading it!

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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Mon May 17, 2004 4:18 pm

Hi Daniel!

Ah, I see, while ordinary "peasants"  Big grin have to get to the ILA by car, train or low cost carrier, Mr. K. gets to fly on Lufthansa's fancy new toy, sipping away the champagner. Very nice... I guess it is "Ehre, wem Ehre gebuehrt!"  Big thumbs up

Thank you for a very detailed description of the A330 cabin. BTW -the lack of individual air conditioning outlets are AFAIK common to all A330's - IMO quite a disadvantage because it leaves you at the mercy of the purser's temperature sense.

Interesting note about the PTV boxes. I guess this will get the a.net teenies wetting their pants for joy, because there might eventually be the chance for them to watch Mickey Mouse on their individual postcard size screen during their once in a lifetime Lufthansa longhaul flight. Big grin




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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAr

Tue May 18, 2004 5:09 am

Hi Daniel,

hey you were lucky! Flying to the ILA for free and drinking champagne - while working class people like me had to take a low-cost carrier, drinking a bottle of tapwater brought from home. There's something wrong in this world  Sad  Laugh out loud

Check-in was fast and efficient - logical, with nobody bringing any bags to be checked.
What? No discussion about your carry-on this time  Big grin

Sure I thought, if you wanted to do a fly-by costing thousands of Euro you´d do it at F.RA where nobody gives a damn and not at SXF in front of thousands of spectators.
You're right. Maybe there's a policy not to do fly-bys at airshows any more? (Remember the AF A320 at Habsheim)
 
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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Tue May 18, 2004 8:24 pm

Wow your a lucky sod, nice report, sounds like you had fun!


-the lack of individual air conditioning outlets are AFAIK common to all A330's

Well maybe on LH 330's, we had them on our TCX 332  Smile Anyway..

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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Wed May 19, 2004 4:29 am

Thanks for the thumbs up to you all!

>>>I also found your description of the interior of the A 330 quite interesting. There is no first class in the A 330-300, is there?

Yes there is, they´re configured 8-48-165. This was the first time I´ve seen the new C alongside with the old F - your bad if you´re shelling out the additional bucks for F...

>>>By the way: was the Business Class also occupied on these special flights or did they leave it empty?

They left F empty, C was occupied. I don´t know how they determined the lucky C flyers. I guess through seniority.
The load was 0-45-153 on F.RA-SXF; on the return, it was officially 0-0-0: the lack of computerised boarding/processing of boarding cards leads to a passenger number of zero in the system.

>>>Thank you for a very detailed description of the A330 cabin.

You´re welcome. You all know what a BA 767 or an NG CRJ looks like, but when I get to ride on something new and/or unusual (at least for the time being...) I´ll go a little more into detail.

>>>BTW -the lack of individual air conditioning outlets are AFAIK common to all A330's - IMO quite a disadvantage because it leaves you at the mercy of the purser's temperature sense.

>>>Well maybe on LH 330's, we had them on our TCX 332

Ah Ok. I just pointed it out because it was new to me for the LH fleet. I´m not really particularly fond of the individual outlets because of the draft they create. I usually just disable them before a flight.


Now, I promised something more about the ILA itself. Unfortunately, no pictures from Saturday have found the way into the database yet. Probably no spotters attended because of the terrible weather. But I´ll make some remarks using photos from other days as reference.

Airbus sent a 318 F-WWIA, a 346 (F-WWCA) and a Super Transporter.


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The 318 and the 346 were also displayed in flight; especially the 346 did some breathtaking manoeuvres with quite extreme flight patterns.


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Also very interesting: the Connie; she was just static, though, and the inside inaccessible on this day.


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Another oldtimer, but even older (she did a formation flight with her LH sister ship - looked and SOUNDED great!):


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And, who´d have thought it get´s another two decades older:


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These two Dorniers showed off in a very nice formation flight:


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The AWACS´


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inside was off limits for us civilians, I did NOT see the following:


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While I´m not a big fan of military aviation, I was very impressed by a Harrier flying sideways and backwards as well as a very agile Tiger:


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While we´re at it: the Luftwaffe was a bit more open than the AWACS. I got to see the flying hospital A310MRTT (amazing) as well as the good old Transall. The former demonstrated both a "Sarajevo approach" (Descending at an angle of 30 degree, from 1500 ft at the runway threshold) and a parachute dropping of cargo. No photos of these performances.


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As you can see, what I meant with "amazing" was "amazingly good hospital, amazingly bad standard seats"  Laugh out loud


I really hope some Saturday photos make it into the database; it would be especially cool to have a pic of our landing or take-off.

Daniel Smile

 
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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Fri May 21, 2004 10:03 pm

Great report, really enjoyed reading it.

Even with the weather we had that day the visit at the ILA was a great day.

Good that I did not need to see the C-17, AWACS and other planes from the inside as I had seen them at previous events. The MRTT was something special though since I had once hoped that one of them would bring me "far from home" on an Army mission and a few months later also bring me back to good old Deutschland...

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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Mon May 24, 2004 3:39 am

Congrats on that special trip! I hope to fly on that bird soon as well, as it serves some of the routes in my new "territory" (Africa and Middle East).
I guess I should read the Lufthanseat more carefully (or not be for so long be away from the office). Then again, I've never had luck with those lotteries, whether it was the 346 route proving or Connexion SEA trip.

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RE: Ferrying A Brand New LH 333 To The ILA;w/ GoAround

Mon May 24, 2004 4:27 am

the air ventlation units for individuals is only on some older A330's i believe. The newer ones have been modified

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