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Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:49 am

LUFTHANSA'S NEW BUSINESS CLASS PRODUCT 2005

As you all could have seen, did I go to Kuala Lumpur to test the New Lufthansa Business Class.
I have heard lots of things about that and wanted to find out myself how I would experience the flight. In the past ( 2001 ) I have tested Lufthansa also and at that time I flew one segment in First and one segment in Business Class. The service was from a very high standard at that time.

My flight:
04/01/2005
Munich – Kuala Lumpur via Bangkok
LH 782
Seat 11K ( window )
Airbus 340-600
D-AIHD

Arrived at MUC / FRANS JOSEF STRAUSS AIRPORT at around 1800 hours on a flight from Amsterdam. I wanted to visit the Senators Lounge but it was quite full, had a quick drink and graphed some snacks and went to make some photo’s of the new airport.









At 20.35 the boarding started of my flight to Kuala Lumpur. The flight had a stopover at Bangkok airport. Because of the Tsunami disaster and the many dead and injured people there as well as tourists also from Germany, made my trip a bit weird. But the flight was already planned two weeks before the earthquake hit the area in Asia. I boarded the flight some 15 minutes before the other passengers where boarding the flight. This gave me some time to make these kinds of photo’s. I was welcomed by the very friendly and professional crew.



They showed me around and told me everything about the new 2 class configuration on the airbus 340-600. There is no First Class anymore onboard but a new business class product that is of such a high level of quality that you can say you are travelling First Class.

First the Lavatories



For the Economy Class there are 6 lavatories downstairs in a special made container.



The Business Class passenger got the normal lavatories, but with one special thing. A toilet with your own window. I have never seen that before but you can close the blinds if you don’t want anybody to see you.

The New lLie-Flat Seat

Then it was time to check my Lie-flat seat. The cabin got a special layout. Rows 1 to 9 have there own cabin in front of the plane. Then you have the kitchen and after the kitchen you have rows 10 and 11. seating is a 2-2-2 configuration. I liked the two rows cabin, gives you a bit more privacy but you are closer to the Economy class cabin. I asked for row 11 K, a window seat and got that one also.









The seat is a lie-flat seat, that is suburb from design by Recardo. Very functional with stores space for your shoes. As I am quite tall ( 194 cm ) I always have a problem when the seat goes down to the floor that me feet got stuck under the seat in front of me. No problems with that in these new seats. It got a great massage function ( lovely ) what works for about 10 minutes. It felt like having my own massage lady under me. It goes up and down your lower back. I wished I had such a seat at home. The lie-flat position is also great, it goes a little bit further than the lie-flat seat from f.e. KLM. It gives you a bit more support in the lower area. You also have a pre memory button which lifts the seat up and down in the middle area to make you sit very comfortable. I have to say a perfect 10 for the seat from me. I slept great and was sitting and sleeping very comfortable all the way.

The Inflight Entertainment System







At the moment they still have a bit of problems with the video on demand system. Currently it’s not on demand, but will be in the near future. They are integrating the system slowly so they can have a good solution for the small problems. Featuring 22 video and 21 radio channels. BUT Lufthansa is the First Airline in the world to have such a technical in-flight entertainment system. No airline in the world got the possibility to have BROADBAND INTERNET during your flight. For a fixed price of USD $ 29,95 a flight you get access to the Boeing Internet Connexion. Sending e-mail with attachments all around the world, loin to your companies network, talking on MSM with your friends, all through your own laptop. What do you need a Wireless LAN network card. Also you can choose to surf the www for USD $ 9,95 for the first 30 minutes and $ 0,25 for each additional minute. Not on all the flights got internet access, so please check the Lufthansa website for details. The flight to KUL did not feature the new service, but soon I will fly to San Francisco and on that flight they got the service.

The Food

The food was very taste full, not a lot but enough. The choice was between:

2 Hors d’oevres
1 Salad
3 Entrees
3 Desserts

Drinks as much as you want as long as you don’t get drunk.
An excellent wine list as I have been told my the person who was sitting next to me. He was French and was a professional wine drinker. He told me what the best wine was any why.

Dinner







After this I felt for a nice relaxing rest of the flight. Used the chair massage and went for a sleep. They woke me up for lunch and washed myself with the hot towel.

Lunch



Amenity Kit

I found the toothbrush and cleaned my teeth.
In the lavatories there is also Mouthwash to give you a fresh taste.





Landing at Bangkok



What a hugh engines got the Airbus 340-600



Making a right hand turn towards runway 21L over this Golf Centre



And yes, even after you landed in the middle of the airport, you will find in between Runway 21L and 21R a Golf Course. People waiting to pass.

Senator Lounge

Because you have to get off during the refuelling of the plane, I had some time to visit Bangkok Airport and the Lufthansa Business Lounge. Lufthansa got a own business lounge at BKK Airport. All the facilities are there as well as a internet connection. Not free but you buy a cheap short internet card and you can access the web. I left my card there with 20 minutes to go for the nect person. The card was costing me $ 4,00.







Bangkok Airport

Getting better every Year !!!!!!!!!!





Finally one of our own KDC-10's helping the Tsunami victims in Thailand.
Well done guys



After a stop for 1hours and 30 minutes we left for a short flight to Kuala Lumpur passing the Tsunami Disaster Area by Air.

LUFTHANSA TRAVELQUALITY RATING 5/5


[Edited 2005-01-17 21:54:52]

[Edited 2005-01-17 21:56:47]
 
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:08 am

Great Report!

Sure looks a nice ride with LH, good to see there is so much aid for those who need it.

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Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:21 am

Cool Report!
Those pictures are really good and look really professional. I'm sure you've made lufthansa proud, i'd love to try them out from those pictures!
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:22 am

Awesome report, i really want to try LH and there long haul product! The internet access does really appeal to me, especially uploading cabin shots, mid flight!  Laugh out loud

Nice pics, BKK airport looks interesting, especially the runway crossing!

Chris
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:44 pm

Thanks for the review. I will be trying the new business product in just over a month on one of their new A333s and am eagerly looking forward to it.
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:44 pm

Great review and even better pics.

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Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:46 pm

Thanks I loved making the report.
Next month I will do Qatar Airways, American and Virgin Atlantic how it now looks.

@RichardBHX

Yes I work as a professional Photographer
Check http://www.persfoto.com
This was just out of the hand how we call it.
No studio session ( studio lights ) and made in about 10 minutes.
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:52 pm

is that seat photo fully flat and extended? looks pretty much like a slide off seat if that's the final position of the seat! nice report though!  Smile
 
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Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:09 pm

No you don't slide off. You can hold the button for the sleep position a bit longer and then it lifts the middle a bit up. Also good for your lowerback and it stays comfortable
 
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:37 am

Great report Indeed.

Those pix look really great.

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Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:15 am

i wish i can fly on one of these seats asap with my girlfriend...
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:56 pm

@ musapaya

I will fly Virgin Atlantic next month or so.
They got double beds for you and your girlfriend.
That is much better  Smile
 
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:59 pm

Thank you a lot for sharing, why can't every trip report be as good as this one?  Big grin
Honestly, your work is excellent ( so is your Virgin Blue report! ) and I really hope you will share all your future trips with the forum! Amazing, thanks!

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Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:33 pm

Great, great, great  Smile

Beautiful pictures!
 
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Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:58 pm

Mention is made of the window in the toilet. I have subsequently looked at lots of pictures of the A346 (particularly belonging to LH) in the data base and have not been able to spot this window in any of them.

Perhaps someone can help. If the toilet is below the main deck, then surely the window, must be situated somewhere lower than the normal line of windows and also near the front of the aircraft, since it was in business class that the photo was taken.
 
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:23 am

Only economy lavatories are on the lower deck.
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:31 am

Fantastic report - looks like LH have got an excellent Business Class product.
 
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:41 am

@rednose

The toilet where this photo has been made is the toilet in between row 9 and 10. You have 9 rows BC than the toiket en kitchen and the 2 other rows in a seperate cabin. I als went to the toilet in the front of Row 1 and if i remember it right there was also a window. Indeed only the EC got there toilets ( 6 ) downstairs
 
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:56 am

Fantastic report and great pics! Very interesting to read a report about LH's new Business Class.
 
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Thu Jan 20, 2005 1:48 pm

Excellent report Andy! I am surprised to see how good LH was up front. The reason I opted to start flying KL a few years ago was the rather mediocre business class LH product. Looks like the tides have changed now, having just flown KL's 777 this past December. I might just have to give good old Lufthansa a try now.

Eagerly looking forward to your future trip reports.

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Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:06 pm

Great report and pics! The new LH Business Class looks very comfortable - I flew them a few years ago in business (JFK-FRA) and was less than impressed with the seats and amenities, although the flight attendants were excellent.

(Looks like the only thing LH is still lacking on is the goodie bag - I've seen better amenity bags in coach on VS. C'mon, LH, you can do better than that!)
 
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Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:20 am

@exFATboy

Yes I liked it a lot flying with them.
For sure I will think about this flight if I book my other flights


The service is from a high level all the way.
Ok the food was good enough but less impresive as other airlines.

But if they serve me too much I will still eat it out of respect  Sad
 
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:22 pm

Next week I will be off to Doha for the First- and Business class trip with Qatar Airways. Watch the next trip report....
 
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:13 pm

Excellent report Andy and amazing crispy pictures. You being a pro photographer, can you suggest a particular brand of camera (both digital and the classic) that is automatic for us amateurs that can almost equate the crispness of your pictures? Don't know much about photography and so my question may not even have any sense at all.  Smile

Thanks for the help.
 
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@AirAmericaC46

I would go for any canon Digital camera of at least 5.0 MP
I want to buy one for quick snapshots. If I am travelling and carry my photocase ( 6 kg) I am getting sick of it. So I would say go for a Canon Ixus 500. Nice ccd chip and easy to carry. I would go for digital and not the anoloog camera's . For website publications a Pro Camera like mine D1Mark 2 is excellent for publications but most of the time you don't need that.

PS sometimes my photo's are being rejected on a.net because of the bad scan  Smile The problem is that I don't scan, so i don't upload a lot to a.net
 
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:17 pm

great report. the new J class looks pretty good, although the screen looks a long way away from you. The goodie bag also looks pretty cheap. but overall, i would be happy to try this product.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:02 pm

The screen is indeed a bit futher then normaly, but the quality of the screen is excellent and looked very clear also from a bit further distance. 10.4 inch so big enough
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:58 am

Great report and pictures. I do however have a few questions about the internet access. Can't you just get it without paying if you have integrated wireless? For instance, Intel Centrinol, and Apple's Airport Extreme, automatically configure and I dont see how they can keep the signal from getting to you unless they have some sort of firewall.
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:55 am

@airbus3801 Yes you can logon for free to the website of Lufthansa. My Lan B/G also configures automatically but you have to login to get full access. So therefore you have to pay.

If I have to send photo's I sometimes login to a Lan network of a private person or house. I just stand outside and upload with broadband trough there account. I don't think you can hack the internet access onboard.

I am for sure going to try it next time but I think they are very secure with it
 
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 3:57 pm

Nice report, I wish Lufthansa would look that nice in 3rd class....
 
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Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:19 pm

Nice report.

Funny though that a certain group of members here, who basically use every posting of theirs to make sure that everybody knows how much they hate LH, does not reply here. Big grin

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Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:21 am

You took some amazing photos and the trip sounded like it was really fun. Also, you should try submitting some of those pics of the wings to a.net for they WILL be accepted. Very professionally done.
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Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:52 pm

Nice report and pictures!

Quoting Skippy777 (reply 0):
The Business Class passenger got the normal lavatories, but with one special thing. A toilet with your own window. I have never seen that before


SAS has windows in the lavatories on their 736 and I think on the A330/340s as well. Perhaps some other carriers have that too.

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Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:55 pm

I am sooooo glad that someone has wrote a good review for my good airline Lufthansa. I have only flow their Y class on all my long haul flights with them and I have loved everytime I flown with them. The crew is always professional and very plesant at all times. I do hope to make my next long haul flight with them. I will fly Lufthansa because " there is no better way to fly". Skippy777 i am glad that you had a good time with LH. They are very good. THe business class looks awsome hope to get up there one of these days.
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:48 am

@ Godbless

Yes if they messed up i would say that here as well but Lufthansa got a good steady service, maybe not the best in everything but there service level is so high on all the subjects that i have to say it's a great airline. If somebody comes up to me and tell me that Lufthansa is bad, than i just ask them if they have ever flown a different airline..............
 
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:08 am

I just flew on LH's new business class on ORD-FRA on an A333 and will write a trip report on it soon, but don't have the time right now as I am Milan, but will write it when I get back. I agree that it is quite an impressive IFE system. It is very well layed out and easy to use. Connexion still wasn't available. Also the woman in front of me crashed her system 3 times during the flight, which was not all that great.

I had just as good of an experience as you did and I liked the pictures! My only problem was that the amenity kit was bad and didn't even have a toothbrush in it, which I expected so I didn't have mine in my carry on bag. I had to wait until I got to the Senator's lounge in FRA.
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Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:53 am

Hi Skippy,

LH came a looong way! I always liked them, and could never understand the claim of the many who said they have arrogant crew etc.
BUT having said that, I had the chance to fly FRA-BKK-SYD in 1990 on the then brand new 747-400, and the business class was not impressive at all. While the crew was very friendly and helpful, the service was poor. The meals even came with the tinfoil still on the plates. I didn't care (I got a free upgrade), but if I had paid $10K for that trip I would have been disappointed. Worst was that the 747-400 still had teething problems, and during take off, climb, descent and landing it was literally raining inside the cabin along the window seats (apparently some air condition problems)! The flight attendants said they had lots of problems, and are always glad if it is not fully booked. What are you doing if the window seats are taken? Hand out umbrellas? In addition, the toilets did either not flush at all, or did flush non-stop...

Sounds all bad, but I truly enjoyed the flight anyway, and still think LH is a very good airline! The flight back was a B747-300 of QF, SYD-SIN-BAH-FRA, and that was truly a nightmare... I flew LH again SIN-FRA in 2001 (again on the 747-400, but this time in economy), and it was a very pleasant flight. Would love to try the new A340!

Cheers
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:38 am

Hi Micha, they have been good since the last time I flew with them in 2002.
The crew is quite nice but I am a journalist so maybe that is why.

A friend of mine flew then back from SFO last week and he liked it a lot as well. He had the broadband internet connection and was very happy with that

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