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Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:56 pm

BRU-FRA-BRU with LH (31 Jan 05)

I travelled on a flexible economy ticket at no less than €699 (No other choice for a day return!). The LH monopoly keeps increasing the price every year on BRU-FRA. I was booked on LH4571, etd 8:25. The plane, an Airbus A320-200 "Klewe" registered D-AIQW, arrived late in Brussels.


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Boarding was delayed and the actual departure time was 8:35. In addition, Frankfurt airport was congested (what a surprise!) and we circled some 20 minutes before landing. Finally, we could not get a gate (yet another surprise at FRA!) and had to be bussed from the tarmac to the terminal, where I arrived 30 minutes late. I was therefore 20 minutes late in my meeting. Incidentally, the load factor was 100%, more than one third of which in business class. Why decrease the price under such conditions? This is a gold mine for LH!

The nice feature about the flight was that, in addition to the usual German cabin crew making the announcements in German and English, there was a Belgian stewardess who translated some of the announcements in French and Flemish (not Dutch, as you could tell from the accent).

Well done, Lufthansa!  Big thumbs up (...if it were not for the cost and the late arrival)

Just one question: is it a new policy at LH to hire local people from countries they are flying to, in order to speak the local languages?

This nice exception did unfortunately not occur anymore on the return flight, LH4586, etd 17:20, operated by an Airbus A321-100 "Regensburg" registered D-AIRT.


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Here the load factor was only 25%. The only words in French and Dutch came from a tape recorder.  Sad

Nothing else special to mention about that flight...

André


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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:35 am

WOW 699? Isn't that close to $1000 for such a flight. WOW that really is expensive
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FR

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:33 am

699euro are 912 US$! That's really expensive. But you have no other choice

nice trip report!
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:17 pm

Hi André!

Nice report!  Smile A monopoly is such a "nice" thing, isn't it?  Big grin At least you got to subsidize the low fares LH is offering on some other routes, where they have intensive competition (e.g. many of the routes to London). Big grin

Regarding non-native speakers, I remember to have read somewhere that LH is employing route-spcific speakers on some flights, e.g. to Russia and Asia. Although it could have been pure coincidence that you actually got a Belgian flight attendant on your trip, you never know with LH, they are usualy highly organized, so it could be a crew scheduling on purpose.
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:55 pm

Hey Andre,

At least you got 20 minutes extra flight time for your money!  Smile
 
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:53 pm

Thanks for your comments.

In a little more than one year, the ICE high speed train will do the trip in 3 hours for a fraction of the cost, even in first class. I might consider this as a serious alternative.

FYI, the next day I made the BRU-MAN-BRU trip on SN Brussels Airlines for EUR 313. A longer trip for a 60% lower price. With more comfort and better food. It is also a BA-SN codeshare monopoly, but these airlines made the monopoly affordable.

Andre
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Fri Feb 04, 2005 12:46 am

Good report. But you paid 699 Euros for a 1 hour flight? Holy sh*t! You must have money to burn. Big grin
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Sat Feb 05, 2005 12:07 am

At the moment the ICE needs 3:30h for Brussels-Frankfurt and costs 263euros in 1st Class for the return trip, without any restrictions. Coach would be 178euros return and without restrictions too.
But the first ICE from Brussel-Midi arrives in Frankfurt at 10am and the last non-stop train leaves Frankfurt Central Station at 6pm. So may be an alternative way for you to travel to Hessen.

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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:21 am

Coach would be 178euros return and without restrictions too.

Maybe you are talking about the price of a FRA-BRU-FRA return in coach, but the lowest price for a BRU-FRA-BRU inclusive all taxes is around 290 EUR (which is indeed sky-high).

Thanks for writing this trip report, André!
 
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:59 am

I was talking about the fare of a train ticket. And the prices are of course inclusive VAT.
I looked up BRU-FRA-BRU on the website of Deutsche Bahn.
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:17 pm

Indeed, I can't wait for the high speed track to be completed between Liège and the Belgian-German border. And also for the ICE to have the licence to go at 300 km/h (instead of the current 200) between Leuven and Liège. That will cut the time between Brussels and Frankfurt to 3 hours or less, and that will introduce a suitable alternative and some competition to LH.

However, three ICE trips a day is not enough. Wake up, DB!
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:52 am

I understand from the LH Office here in BKK that they currently have 75 Thai Citizens on their flights to and from FRA/MUC as well as from BKK to KUL/HCM and MNL. I flew once on LH and met some really nice japanese staff flying for LH on the Japan Route. Both were on the flight from HAM to FRA meeting their plane there for NRT. I trust it is a good thing to have "locals" working on board because the majority of the passengers do not understand nor speak English or German, especially when flights originate in more exotic countries like Thailand, Vietnam, China etc.
 
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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:17 am

Once a Belgian applies for a stewardess position and meets the criteria, she will be hired - thanks to the EU freedom of movement. Crew scheduling usually takes staff´s language skills into account when assigning rotations (as TriStar500 already hinted).


>>>However, three ICE trips a day is not enough. Wake up, DB!

The problem is the Thalys which takes exactly the same time as the ICE but is way more expensive.

>>>I can't wait for the [...] ICE to have the licence to go at 300 km/h (instead of the current 200) between Leuven and Liège

It won´t anytime soon. The ICE has serious issues sucking up stones from the tracks, and they hit the train´s bottom. Recently, when Deutsche Bahn applied for the 300 km/h licence on the Loewen-Luettich track, they got only 230. As usual, a bunch of amateurish clowns, both Bahn and the manufacturers´ consortia.


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RE: Belgian Stewardess On LH Flight From BRU To FRA

Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:41 am

Also, to become a purser, you must talk a third language besides German and English. Hence, steward(esse)s´ language skills cost LH money - they´ll make damn sure a Russian speaker is not wasted doing FRA-AMS all the time.

Interestingly, talking Esperanto will meet the 3rd language requirement.

Dutch is very popular among those LH steward(esse)s who will learn a 3rd language while on the job (as opposed to those who are already trilingual when hired) - because it´s so similar to German.

Daniel Smile

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