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Qantas LAX-AKL-BNE-SYD Econ W/pix

Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:44 pm

Well...my friend and I had to decide what to do for a brief spring vacation and after an extensive thought process, ended up deciding on a trip to New South Wales.

Bought a flight+hotel package via expedia. Options were for UA and QF, direct flights from LAX to SYD. By the time we got around to booking it though, the only QF flight that was still available was QF 26 with direct service to Brisbane with a stop in Auckland followed by a connecting flight to SYD. Ended up going with Qantas, just because I am a oneworld enthusiast...I also figured that QF's economy product was a bit better than UA's.

So the itinerary was LAX-AKL-BNE on QF 26, 747-400 and BNE-SYD on QF 529, a 763. On the way back, the routing would be direct, QF 149, 747-400.

Since I'm so tired now, I'm just going to write about the first leg. Tomorrow I'll get on and write about the trip back. So here goes:

10th March 2005
Qantas Flight 26
Departure Time from LAX: 8:30pm
Arrival Time at AKL: 6:00am
Routing: LAX-AKL-BNE
Aircraft: 747-438, VH-OJB
Seat: 52G

After about a two hour drive to the airport from the Ventura County line on PCH, the 10 and the 405, we finally got to Tom Bradley around 6pm and waited in line for the QF check-in, which at that time was quiet empty.

We were checked in by an absolutely stunning Australian girl from Melbourne who is spending a year here in LA on a programme from her university. In the meantime she is working for Qantas.

I saw her from far away and was secretly hoping that we'd get her...when we walked up to the desk and she started speaking I didn't even pay attention to anything she was saying I just taken aback by her loveliness and what she was saying could have sounded like a didgeridoo. Anyway we started speaking to her about what to do in Sydney and all that.

Eventually the conversation turned to the flight. I asked her if she knew which aircraft was operating the route. She said "do you mean 747 or something else" to which I said that I was asking for the tail number. She went off to find out and I told her that she didn't have to. The a$$ho!e that she asked said that it was confidential information. Alright...so I would just have to wait 10 minutes.

Went through security at about 7:15 or so and found VH-OJB sitting at the gate.

The waiting lounge was absolutely PACKED! The QF representative I spoke to one the phone the week prior said that there were only 8 seats available on the flight. That meant about 420 passengers on board!!

Eventually we started to board and I took my seat, 52G. Sitting next to me was a Qantas employee. He works in catering @ SYD and was connecting directly to Sydney from Auckland. The seats onboard were quite comfortable, but the seat pitch was not so fantastic. Another inch or two would not have gone unnoticed.

Heres a photo of me sitting in 52G:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/28.JPG

Before takeoff, the crew came around to bring out little bags with socks, eyeshades and a toothbrush with toothpaste. No ear plugs though:



We soon got under way and took off from the southern right runway (I think thats 25R).

Once we were underway, the FA came on and made an annoucement:

"Ladies and gentlemen, due to the unpredictability of turbulance and the movement of the aircraft, we kindly request that you not sleep on the floor or in the aisles."

Haha. Anyway, soon the dinner service came around. The crew asked everyone to put the seat back in the upright position while everyone was eating, which was nice.

I was also quite pleased that they didn't waste time with drinks first, as I was really looking forward to getting some rest. I had had to wake up before 6am that morning to head down to Gulfstream in Long Beach. Here is a very poor quality shot of the menu:



Anyway, I had the chicken which was not too bad. Here is a photo:



I was surprised to see that QF provides metal forks! Still plastic knives though, although the quality of the plastic knife was better than what you would find in the supermarket.

The crew collected the trays and then came around with a Magnum chocolate bar, which was quite refreshing. Afterwards, they brought the Qantas snack bag, which I thought was a nice touch. It consisted of a fruit and oatmeal snack bar, cheese nips, oreo cookies and a bottle of water. I really appreciated the gesture. It's nice to have something that can keep you busy later on in the flight once everyone is asleep and you're a bit hungry.

Heres a photo:



I reclined the seat (recline was quite generous) and snoozed for about 8 hours. I noticed that an FA would come down the aisles about once per hour to offer some water. By the time I woke up, we were about 2 hours out from Auckland and breakfast was served.

Given the choice of hot or continental breakfast, I chose the hot. The hot part of it (a spinach tart) wasn't so great...in fact I didn't enjoy it at all. But the fruit, muffin and yoghurt were alright.



We started our descent into Auckland at about 5:40am or so. The landing itself was not so fantastic. The plane wasn't aligned properly on the runway and touched down with the nose facing left. Eventually we started going straight down the runway.

It was dark in Auckland at that hour of the morning (around 6am) but since we were just transiting we decided to take some photos and explore the terminal. Here is a shot of OJB:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/12.JPG

At about 7:30am, we headed back to the gate and were told that there would be a delay on the aircraft. There was a fuel leak in the core of the #3 RB211. I'm not sure when they found out about the leak, but that might have had something to do with the lousy landing.

While the #3 engine was being worked on...

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/17.JPG

...one of the F/As was posing in the engine! I took plenty of shots with my film SLR camera (which I haven't developed yet) but by the time I got around to shooting with my digital camera she was just climbing out of the engine. Here is a shot of what I did manage to get. Once I develop the film, I'll stick on some extra pictures on here:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/14.JPG

The gate agents made annoucements every 10 minutes that the engineers would be able to give us an updated departure time in about 10 minutes.
After about 3 of those annoucements, they eventually told us that the plane would depart at 11:00am as opposed to 8:00am. This was followed by a huge groan by the 400 some odd people in the departure lounge.

They did apologise and gave everyone NZ$10 certificates to use in the terminal. I used the opportunity to call my mother back in LA. My timing was fantastic, as my mother advised me that I had a letter from Oxford, informing me that I had been accepted to the 2005-2006 Masters of Financial Economics Course (MFE) taught by Oxford's Said Business School. I was overjoyed...I had flown Jet Blue to New York for that interview in February and was very pleased to have been accepted. Well, that's where I'll be next year!

Anyway, so we roamed around the terminal a bit and then decided to go through customs to pick up an NZ stamp in the passport and see what the outside of New Zealand was like.

Here are some photos I took while outside in NZ:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/20.JPG

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/21.JPG

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/22.JPG

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/23.JPG

Eventually came back inside and waited at the gate for VH-OJB to get ready.

We pulled out of the gate and the pilot came on to apologise again for the delay and say that he was going to shut down the #3 engine for the engineers to do one final visual inspection and then we would be on our way. He said "Here at Qantas, we emphasize safety over schedule and apologise again for the delay and for your inconvenience."

We took off to BNE at about 11:00 am. I must say it was refreshing to travel in a 744 for such a short period of time.

Didn't get a menu on the continuation of the flight, but breakfast was quite awful:



I got up and took a photo of the winglet:



Slept for most of the way to BNE. Landing was rough.

Oh well. At Brisbane we went through customs, collected the luggage and went the to transfer desk at the international terminal.

By this stage, our connecting 763 from Brisbane to Sydney had already departed. I was slightly upset that we wouldn't be traveling on the 763, but remembered that QF just about every plane in their fleet on the route. I was really hoping to be rebooked on the 743...as it turned out, the rest of the flights that day were to be operated by 737s. Blah Sad

We didn't have too much time to get to the domestic terminal, so the QF rep gave us a voucher to take a cab from the international terminal instead of waiting for the train.

12th March 2005
Qantas Flight 533
Departure Time from BNE: 13:10
Arrival Time at SYD: 15:40
Routing: BNE-SYD
Aircraft: 737-800, VH-VXH
Seat: 4B

I was a bit upset that I'd be flying on a 737, but at least this one had enormous winglets which I hadn't experienced before.

Here is a shot of VH-VXH sitting at the gate waiting for us:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/34.JPG

Boarding started at about 12:45 and we had seats in the first row of economy.

We were served a light snack, which was a turkey sandwich that I enjoyed more than the breakfast on the AKL-BNE leg:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/37.JPG

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/38.JPG

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/39.JPG

After about 1.5 hours, we landed in Sydney at about 3:40 pm. Took the train to Circular Quay and when we got off the train, we were treated to a view of this:

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~sassine/Qantas/42.JPG

You Australians have a beautiful country. By the way, Australians really do say gday m8!

The whole thing, door to door was over 30 hours. A lot of traveling, but Qantas was really fantastic.

I really enjoyed the flight. The planes were well kept, the entertainment system was excellent (although the interactive menu wasn't working at my seat), the cabin crew was friendly and professional and the service was better than anything else I had experienced in economy. The "safety over schedule" policy was good for my peace of mind.

So really I have to give Qantas a 10/10. I had an excellent experience with Qantas and I would have to really go out of my way to find things to complain about.

The only thing I have to say is that the Business Class on VH-OJB (and all the 2-class 744s except for VH-OJC) really didn't impress me at all and I'm not sure that its worth the exorbitant price. In fact their business seats reminded me of the Club World that BA's 744s were delivered with in the early 90s.

And now I have some questions of my own regarding the fuel leak. When would the pilots have known about it? Would the fuel leak have contributed to the lousy landing? Would QF had had parts for the RB211 at Auckland, or would they have had to buy some from Air NZ or something?

Well, hope that you enjoyed the report. Thanks for reading!

Part 2 (the return) to come soon...
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:25 pm

nice report, good to see catering hasn't changed the menu on the LAX-AUS service, that same chicken meal i had in december on QF 94, and i nearly threw it up! i believe i sent you info on the load of that flight, like i said, choc full! as it usually is.

look forward to reading the return trip report.
 
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:45 pm

Hi QF077, thanks for the comments. Hehe the catering wasn't so fantastic. I never received the info on the load of the flight...did you just respond to the email I sent you via a.net?
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:34 pm

yea i certainly did reply to your email.
 
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:42 pm

Interesting...thanks then. I never received it, perhaps my spam filter may have caught it and deleted it?
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:47 pm

Excellent trip report, and great pictures.
Really enjoyed reading it. Im glad to hear that our national airline has taken good care of you! And im glad that you enjoyed spending time in our country. I am abou to read the other half of your report and am hoping its as good as this one!

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Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:52 pm

Fantastic report. But those meals didn't really look as bad as they had tasted yo you...  Cool
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Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:46 pm

I enjoyed your report and pictures.

Moreover, congratulations on your acceptance to Saïd’s MFE program. I know that admissions are very competitive. Good luck!
 
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:20 am

Cool trip report! I flew Qantas back in December, I also enjoyed their service. Hope you enjoyed your vacation! Can't wait for the return report!
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:55 am

Great report man.

And congratulations on your acceptance to Oxford.

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Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:06 am

I think it was a good choice to go with Qantas. I just flew UA (SFO-SYD-LAX) last week (03/05 and 03/12) and the service definitley wasn't as good as what you experienced on QF - although I have no complaints. But for example, we didn't receive any amenity kits in economy, no snack boxes were given out and it looks like the food was better quality on QF- the flight attendants were pretty nice though.
 
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:22 am

Great Report! I was excited to read it as I'll be flying on QF26 in November for our honeymoon to NZ. The routing is LAX-AKL then CHC-SYD-LAX all on QF in Business Class. Someone gaves us all his amex miles so it's not costing us a penny for the flights.
 
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:07 pm

Nice trip report.Odd to see food served in economy on a 1.5 hour flight. (At least QF is making $) Anyone know why AKL is called Auckland International Airport "Limited"? Congratulations on being accepted to Oxfard University.
 
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Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:49 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
By the way, Australians really do say gday m8!

LIES LIES LIES!!!!! Well, maybe people in Brisbane say it - but they are from Queensland afterall. (Groan).

I hope this didn't project an incorrect image of my country to you - and that you realise that we don't all talk like we were born behind a cattle shed and raised in a whorehouse.

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 12):
Anyone know why AKL is called Auckland International Airport "Limited"?

That is the name of the business that owns Auckland airport. Just as Sydney is owned by Sydney Airports Corporation Ltd.

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Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:44 am

Great trip report! I was glad to read about the LAX-AKL as i'll be flying that exact same route when I go to New Zealand in a few months!  Smile

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Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:59 pm

Hey there,
How funny, that flight attendant in the engine trained with me, and i met her in Sydney that same day. Her name is Anna.
And if you really want to know, on all of your routes you flew with Qantas LAX-AKL-BNE you had Auckland Crew. Anna is Auckland crew. We have a great bunch of people working from this base!

Glad you enjoyed the service, we work very hard, oh and by the way, constantly complain about that horrible breakfast we serve into AKL out of LAX.

Ciao
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PS: That second officer who is carrying her is her boyfriend. Cheers.
 
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Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:59 am

Indeed a very good report! A job well done, AirxLiban!

Hmm what I'd do to see airline employee couples more often... Wink
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Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:44 am

Great trip report! I enjoyed reading it and the pics. as well. I MUST get back to Aussie in short order! I of course always fly UA, as I come from a UA family.

I had a letter from Oxford, informing me that I had been accepted to the 2005-2006 Masters of Financial Economics Course (MFE) taught by Oxford's Said Business School. I was overjoyed...

Damn...WOW...congratulations on that man...that's great. Acceptance to ANYTHING at Oxford is great...work hard and good luck to you in that program. I'll be starting my MBA program at Seattle Univ. hopefully this summer, but that ain't diddly shit compared to Oxford! Beautiful campus, too...saw it in '91.

...one of the F/As was posing in the engine! I took plenty of shots

DAMN...Anna is BEAUTIFUL!!!! WOW! What a great set of legs, too....lucky guy...I'd love to have those legs wrapped around my neck one night.

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Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:08 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 13):
Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
By the way, Australians really do say gday m8!

LIES LIES LIES!!!!! Well, maybe people in Brisbane say it - but they are from Queensland afterall. (Groan).

I hope this didn't project an incorrect image of my country to you - and that you realise that we don't all talk like we were born behind a cattle shed and raised in a whorehouse.

Yeah, and I love the saying "G'day, mate!" And by the way, Airlibanx - great report.
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:47 pm

Hey Guys, Just got back from an LAX.

Just would like to let ya'll know we have changed the meals onboard...(Thank the lord) No longer that horrible meal you were talking about. Instead it is Butter Chicken with Rice or Speghetti Boloneise.

Enjoy... Oh and yes, Anna is very beautiful!!

Also the breakfast into AKL is still a tart but it is filled with ham instead of spinach. But word of advice for most... stay away from the hot breakfast and go with the continental!

Cheers
AirNewZealand...

Oh AND also... 747-300 will be operating the route this month on certain dates from BNE-AKL-LAX and v.v.
Also the Sky beds are now operating on the route 3 times a week.

Cheers
 
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:14 pm

Airnewzealand, thanks for the info. Any idea what days the 743s will be coming to LAX? That will be a site worth heading down for...
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Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:14 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 20):
Airnewzealand, thanks for the info. Any idea what days the 743s will be coming to LAX?

The 743's to LAX will be on Friday 15th, 22, 29 April then 6 and 13 May. And also Sunday 17th and 24 April.
 
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Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:25 pm

Thanks ZK-NBT for that info.

The flight leaves around 8:30pm I believe, (QF 26 I think) going LAX-AKL-BNE, but where does it come in from and what time is that flight?
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Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:52 pm

Arrives via the same routing QF25 at around 1045am.

Great report BTW!!
 
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Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:55 am

Another report on a great airline

Look forward to using them again soon i hope

Funny pic of the FA in the engine lol
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Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:38 pm

Quoting Qantas077 (Reply 1):
nice report, good to see catering hasn't changed the menu on the LAX-AUS service

When did QF start flying to Austin Big grin

Congrats on Oxford Michel, though may I make a recommendation when you are driving to LAX (I am from Camarillo). If it is high traffic time and you take PCH, don't bother with 10 to the 405. Just get off at Lincoln Blvd. and take that right to Sepulveda and the airport. Great views of the North complex (looks like planes are landing on top of you) and it is faster.
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Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:16 am

Great Trip Report! Great pics also! Can't wait to see the return trip!


Joe
 
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Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:50 am

Thanks for the comments, guys.

Joe - here's the return trip:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/55658/

N1120a, thanks for the congratulations. I'm quite excited.

Regarding getting to LAX, I've heard about that route before. Just stay on PCH and turn left on Lincoln...is that it?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 25):
When did QF start flying to Austin

They're going to fly LAX-AUS with those 777-200LRs that they're getting Big grin
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Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:00 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 27):
Regarding getting to LAX, I've heard about that route before. Just stay on PCH and turn left on Lincoln...is that it

Actually, you go through the tunnel that leads to the 10 and Lincoln is the first exit on the right. Lincoln is actually part of SR 1 and you will see the California Delta 1 symbol on the exit.

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 27):
They're going to fly LAX-AUS with those 777-200LRs that they're getting

WOW, I cant wait to see the take off performance. I bet they get full traffic rights too Big grin.
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Tue May 10, 2005 5:35 pm

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 13):
Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
By the way, Australians really do say gday m8!

LIES LIES LIES!!!!! Well, maybe people in Brisbane say it - but they are from Queensland afterall. (Groan).

I hope this didn't project an incorrect image of my country to you - and that you realise that we don't all talk like we were born behind a cattle shed and raised in a whorehouse.

A bit harsh, I'm from Brisbane and I have never said that in my life!!! I hardly ever hear people say it.

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