royisher
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LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:40 pm

Hello Guys,

My first trip report.

Will be many from now on, will try to publish as many as I can, also from past flights.

In July I flew to Barcelona with LH (my fav airline for connecting European routes), great flights.

Arrived to the airport at 2:45PM, schedule for take off was 4:30PM. checkin was fast, business class line, same for security.
My seat assignment was 5A, I reserved the seat as I always do.

After that, I went up, to the passport control, went to the Dan Lounge in TLV (the lounge for the foreign airlines) and sat there for quite a while, I really like the Dan Lounge, It's nicer then the Elal lounge in TLV, much more comfy and stylish.

Flight info:

Route: TLV-FRA
Flight: LH687
Aircraft: Boeing 747-400


Boarding was pretty fast, the procedure in Israel is not like in the states, like in Europe, business class / first are called last to board the planes (I really think we should start working with zones)...

I went to my seat, great F/A's welcomed me, as always, LH have great F/A's, took my coat, and started my journey to FRA.

We took off from Runway 30, DEENA1FS departure (if anyone is interested in more detail :P), after reaching to Cruise alt service has began.

We were offered as a starter a salad, sliced meat and some other thing I can't remember, that's the normal starter for flight from TLV to FRA and back, I always get the same starter when flying LH!
For main course we had a choice between a Pasta Bolognese (sorry if I misspelled) or a Lamb. I took the Pasta, best choice!
For desert, we got the normal Cheese plate and a fresh fruit salad, again, the normal desert for LH flights to TLV and back.

Flight went smooth, great weather during the flight, for my surprise, we had a very young F/A (always nice) that spoke Hebrew, she insisted that we will talk with her in Hebrew and not in english.

Some pics:

The departure hall C in TLV
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1030563.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1030582.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1030603.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1030620.jpg

We arrived to FRA at approx 8PM, right on time, and my connecting flight to Barcelona was in a 45 min difference, had to run.

I arrived to the boarding area for BCN, and due to a major storm FRA had that day, we had a 3 hour delay! So I headed to the Lounge in Terminal A, which was VERY crowded due that all the flights were delayed, so I decided to go out and drink in a cafe, much more comfortable then the lounge!

Flight details:

Route: FRA-BCN
Flight: LH4458
Seat: 3F
Plane: A300-600R


Okay, after a 3 hour delay we finally departed, flight was EMPTY! we were only 2 people in business class, and from what I saw, only 20-40 people in Economy, most were Chinese tourists.

After reaching the crz alt, we got our meals, cold meat balls with a salad, I just gave it back. Was really disappointed with this, I told the F/A I'd prefer to get the Economy sandwich instead, so she brought it to me.

Overall this flight was fine, could've been better, but ah well, domestic European, can't expect much more.

We reached Barcelona, I just love Barcelona, great place, my brother was waiting for me outside, and off I went to enjoy Barcelona again! .

Some pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1030669.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1030681.jpg

Flight back:

I reached El Prat airport, I reserved myself the morning flight from BCN to FRA, so I could do some spotting at FRA, reached BCN about an hour before departure, seat assignment was already reserved, 2A, great crew in the check-in, VERY friendly!

Flight Info:

Route: BCN-FRA
Flight: LH4461
Seat: 2A
Aicraft: A300-600


After going thru security, which was fast, I went to Spanair lounge, quite nice, I always enjoy visiting there, great food , took a Business Week mag and went to the plane.

We took off right on time, this flight was much better then the flight from Frankfurt to BCN, much more friendlier crew, and a very nice brakefast was offered, which was an Omllete with Cheese and a very good Salad. Right behind me a A300 Captain was seating, I asked him if I can bother him, and talked with him about LH, a very nice guy!

We reached Frankfurt, parked at the Alpha as usual per European flights.

Some pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1030932.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1030934.jpg

After reaching FRA, I put my luggage in the business lounge in Bravo and went to the terrace, met with some mates, it was a fantastic day, Can't wait to do that again soon!

At approx 7PM I went back to the terminal, went to the lounge in Bravo, and drank a coke and ate something, and did some checking with the nice crew in the lounge about my flight to tel aviv. I finished with that, and off I went to the flight.

Flight Info:

Route: FRA-TLV
Flight: LH690
Seat: 4K
Aircraft: A330-200


As usual, flight from FRA to TLV leave from C, quite a walk, and then after boarding, you go into a "cage" that what we call it, and stay there for about 15 min, and then you board the plane, not very friendly, but due to security, we go through there.

Unfort. the plane today was the A332, instead of the A333, not sure what happened, I had a few trips on LH's 333 with the new Business Class, and it was fantastic, really wished I had it this time also. (ah well, I'll have it soon enough)

After boarding, I was greeted by the normal friendly crew of LH, took my coat as usual. We took off right on time also.

The meals were the same as before, only change was instead of the Lamb we were offered a very nice Veal Stake (if I'm not wrong).

Overall this flight was great, We arrived right on time to TLV, Gate C9 as usual for LH.

One picture:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/royish/SITES/P1040383.jpg

I really enjoyed this trip, like I always enjoy flying LH, and my next trip with LH is to Amsterdam, in a month, stay tuned for another trip report!

Hope you liked this report, please bare in mind It's my very first, I'll get better slowly :P

And also, those pictures were taken with my old camera, not with the new 350D, sorry for the quality if there's any problem.

Thanks for reading,
Royi
 
atco2b
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:01 pm

Nice report about Lufthansa! Nice to see you got 3 different aircraft types on 4 flights.

Quoting Royisher (Thread starter):
or a Lamb

Obviously, very generous meals on LH flights Big grin
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MH017
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:27 am

Royi,

Nice trip report; looking forward to your LH-trippie to AMS.
Lately, they've substituted the 319/320 quite often to AMS with ARJ's (from FRA that is): have you ever flown these beauties ?
don't throw away tomorrow !
 
royisher
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:10 am

Hey MH017,

Yes I know, I'm scheduled on the following planes: 333-RJ85-CR1-333

I've flown on those tinies, but in Turkish Airlines....

Will let you know next month how was it.

And yes, food was great  Smile... (on the long hauls)
 
SNBru
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:18 am

The A332 looks like the old Sabena planes LH bought/leased. Too bad because they are dated indeed from the pre-flat business chair era.

The good thing though, is that these old Sabena planes are the only LH planes with personal TV's in Economy. But you flew business class however. If you flew economy you would have surprised I think to find tv's on a LH plane!
 
semsem
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:46 am

Very nice pictures.

However why change in Frankfurt when you could fly nonstop on El Al to Barcelona and Amsterdam.

I assume you like the Miles and More program?

Would be nice to see the meals.

thanks.
 
royisher
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sat Oct 29, 2005 6:23 pm

SNBru, yep I know it has PTV's, also the Ex Swiss one has PTV's in the Economy.

And Semsem, I just prefer Miles and More, I fly El Al also, just like LH more  Wink.
 
A342
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:16 am

Quoting SNBru (Reply 4):
The good thing though, is that these old Sabena planes are the only LH planes with personal TV's in Economy. But you flew business class however. If you flew economy you would have surprised I think to find tv's on a LH plane!



Quoting Royisher (Reply 6):
SNBru, yep I know it has PTV's, also the Ex Swiss one has PTV's in the Economy.

But those aren´t AVOD, are they ? And how´s the y-class pitch on those planes ? Somehow I have the feeling that it might be better than usual LH economy.  scratchchin 
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Sabena332
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:01 am

Great report, thanks also for the pictures!

Quoting A342 (Reply 7):
But those aren´t AVOD, are they ?

No, they don't offer the AVOD feature.

Quoting A342 (Reply 7):
And how´s the y-class pitch on those planes ? Somehow I have the feeling that it might be better than usual LH economy.

In 1999 I flew BRU-ATL on a SN A332 and I had a middle seat in the Economy Class. Guess what? I couldn't complain, the seat pitch was great, even for a 10 hour flight.

Patrick
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ZKSUJ
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:52 pm

NIce report. Thanks for sharing!!!  Smile
 
TriStar500
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:31 pm

Very interesting report - we don't get to read many reports covering flights to or from Israel around here. Also, the pictures from TLV are the first ones I have seen online.  Smile
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Lp0815
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:00 pm

Hi Royisher,

thanks for sharing your trip report with us.
Great work!

Looking forward to reading more on reports on flights ex/to TLV.
Make sure to post a report on your AMS flight.

Will be flying FRA-TLV-FRA in DEC, time to go and visit my mother-in-law in TLV.
(All married men out here: if you know what's good for you, you take good care of your mother-in-law....).
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royisher
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:56 am

hi Lp0815,

Don't worry, will post it.

When are you coming to TLV? maybe we'll be on the same flight from TLV to FRA...
 
Lp0815
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:18 am

Hi Royisher,

here are my flight details as planned so far:

FRA-TLV
LH 690 13DEC

TLV-FRA
LY 357 19DEC or
LH 691 19DEC

Let me know if you're around on one of those flights.

Cheers,
Lp0815
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StefanPAD
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:04 am

Hi Royisher,

thanks for your great report.

I have a question to your Check In on your flight LH 690 from FRA to TLV. Do you remember that you passed through the big and mostly empty security hall on the ground floor at the high risc gate C?

I worked at Frankfurt Airport (Fraport) for a while and sometimes I helped in the high risc gate for flights to TLV. But when I was there, it was only used by El Al. Do you remember, if Lufthansa used it, too?

Stefan
 
ly7e7
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:34 am

Stefan,

LH use that one too. IIRC C22-23 are shared by LY and LH , yet LY have a separate entrance.


Strange thing I've just saw on fraport's website: I flew out of there many many times, always C22-23, yet now the site indicates that tonight's LH690 departs from B...
2 things are endless: ignorance and space
 
royisher
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:05 am

Hey Stefan,

Yes, indeed, those are the "Israeli gates" in fraport! Actually for my past few flights, I took off from C21 hehe

FYI - Elal will NOT use those gates anymore, they complained to Fraport about this, and they got them to move them, more info soon! Big grin

Lp0815 - I'm very sorry I didn't reply you! I forgot all about this, I'm very very sorry!! Well I'm on Wednesday on the 691, if anyone is on that one, let me know hehe  Smile.

Ly7e7 - according to LH site LH690 tonight will depart from C21
 
ly7e7
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Tue Dec 27, 2005 4:35 am

Quoting Royisher (Reply 16):
Elal will NOT use those gates anymore, they complained to Fraport about this

Do you know what was the reasoning behind that complaint ? The usual security ranting or do they actually want their pax to feel less outcasted?
2 things are endless: ignorance and space
 
royisher
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RE: LH / TLV-FRA-BCN-FRA-TLV

Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:38 am

They actually want the pax to feel less outcasted, they want them to be with everyone else, they feel as if they are dumped hehe

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