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Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:12 am

After what was a very short and hectic week-long break in Los Angeles, it was time for me to head back to Oxford to finish writing my Masters’ project and start the Trinity term (my last one, God willing).

Unfortunately I can’t exactly describe this last week in California as a holiday because I spent most of the time working on my project. In addition, the weather wasn’t particularly conducive to relaxing. My parents blamed me for bringing the England weather to Los Angeles, as it was wet and grey for most of the week. Nevertheless, I was able to get some (limited) sun and saw some if not all of my friends.

My flight back to London was due to depart at 17:50 on Sunday afternoon and I found out I could check-in online 23 hours prior to takeoff. At that, I was sitting in front of my computer at 17:50 on Saturday afternoon because that was actually 23 hours before takeoff – if you consider the time change onto summer time. Unfortunately, British Airways’ online check-in system wasn’t quite as smart as I was, and as a result I had to come back at 18:50. Perhaps I should sue BA for false advertising…their system was not ready 23 hours prior to departure.

Anyway, from looking at the seat map, it seemed as though the business class cabin wasn’t completely full. I had been assigned a lower deck window (14A) but saw that most of the upper deck was empty. I entertained the thought of sticking it out downstairs because I had never traveled in BA’s new Club World downstairs on a 747, always upstairs. Then I remembered that on my last trip in Club on a BA 777 in June 2003 (the return of my Concorde trip to New York), I couldn’t access the aisle from the window without jumping over the feet of the person in the aisle seat in the row behind mine. So instead I decided to go with the upper deck again and chose 62A, an exit-row window seat.

I found myself in something of a hurry on Sunday morning due to the time change. I finished packing, made a couple of final phone calls and set out from my house around 14:30.

It seems as though my trip reports would not be complete without the requisite picture of my dog, so here we go. Sara, this one’s for you…now can you stop reading if you can’t be bothered, lol!



Initially it was smooth sailing on the freeway. I saw a car whose plate number tickled me, so I took a picture of it just before it changed lanes. Arabic speakers out there will find this amusing. If the owner of the car is reading this trip report (highly unlikely) I am sorry for publicizing your plate number on the internet:



Unfortunately the traffic started to pile up on the 405 Southbound at Wilshire Boulevard and I got off at Olympic/Pico and took Sawtelle up to Sepulveda and then on to the airport, arriving at LAX after just one hour on the road – not bad when you take into consideration the traffic on the 405 Freeway.

Note: if you’re from the Bay Area, read the last sentence as “not bad when you take into consideration the traffic on 405 Freeway.” I find it hella annoying how you guys don’t use articles before the noun!

British Airways
Flight BA 282
Departure Time: 17:50 (Scheduled) 17:50 (Actual)
Arrival Time: 12:00+ (Scheduled) 11:28 (Actual)
Aircraft: Boeing 747-436, G-BNLN, mfg 1990
Seat: 62A, Upper Deck, Club World


I arrived at LAX at about 15:30 and drove around the departures level. I saw that the Air France 777-200 had already arrived from Paris and that Virgin Atlantic was there at Terminal 2 with one of their 747-400s. I’m so glad to see that they’ve ditched the A340-600 for flight 7/8. Air New Zealand was also present with two 747-400s, I imagine one was coming from London and the other was coming from Auckland. ZK-NBU was the one whose registration I was able to catch.

As we turned left around the concourse, I got a view of the apron where some of the international traffic at the Tom Bradley International terminal was parked. The BA 747-400 was parked between an Air Tahiti Nui A340-300 and an Aer Lingus A330-200. I tried to catch a glimpse of the tail number from reading the top of the tail and could just make out that G-BNLN was going to be operating the flight this afternoon.

It was about 15:10 by the time I got into the terminal. The Club World check-in queue was empty and I went up to the desk and handed my bag over for tagging. For some odd reason, the check-in lady (who was Lebanese) wanted the credit card with which I booked the ticket. I fortunately had it, but I wonder why she wanted it to begin with. What if someone else had bought the ticket for me and I didn’t have the credit card? Security reasons, perhaps.

The lady gave me my bag back (after she had checked it in) and told me to hand it over to the security agents for screening. I hate how we have to go through this misery at LAX. First of all, it’s a huge hassle, especially if you’ve got multiple bags or are traveling with children. Secondly, it usually takes forever and I’m not exactly sure what the point of it is. There must be some reason – perhaps one of you on here can enlighten me.

Anyway, fortunately for me, there was NO ONE there at the baggage drop, so I simply handed my bag over and once they had screened it, I was free to go.

I said goodbye to my parents and proceeded over to security. Again, there was almost no one there. I went through security on the south side of the terminal and so was afforded a view of the west side of the Terminal 4 apron. Air India Boeing 747-400 VT-ESN was parked closest to me and looked like it was in real need of a polish. The engine nacelles in particular just looked really dull. Perhaps they had a matte finish but in any event, let’s just say that the AI 744 wasn’t visually appealing from my perspective. Incidentally, I didn’t know that Air India was flying from Terminal 4. Or perhaps…was that just the other side of the Bradley complex? Not quite sure…again, perhaps someone can fill me in. I’ve only ever flown away from the north side.

Security was, as always, a royal pain in the proverbial, involving the usual strip tease of jacket, belt and shoes. Of course, I had to take my laptop out of its case and put it through the machine.

The guy in front of me literally took something like 5 minutes to do all this and had to go through the metal detector three times. After he was finished, it was my turn and I walked through the metal detector like a rose. I made my way up the stairs to the British Airways lounge and after walking through what seemed like an endless maze, I eventually found it.

It was the same lousy lounge that I had been to a million times before, but not since 2002. There were plenty of torn up couches and a small snack bar. I opened up my laptop and found that my network card detected the presence of a wireless network, but I could not connect to it. I went up and asked the lady at the door if she knew how I could access the wireless internet and she replied that she didn’t have the password. Leads me to believe that some airline in one of these lounges has put a system in place for the benefit of their premium passengers, but that British Airways hasn’t bothered yet.

To be honest, the lounges at Bradley all seem to suck. Well actually, Bradley itself just sucks. Has anyone been to a decent lounge at LAX? What is the Admirals Club like at T4 and what is United’s Red Carpet Club like? I wonder, can a oneworld elite traveler go to any of the oneworld lounges, such as a British Airways passenger go to the Cathay Pacific or LAN Chile lounge? I noticed that the one I was in was shared between BA and Qantas. Here are a couple of lousy photos:





Once I sat down, I went up to the bar and got a glass of sparkling water and a very stale ham and cheese sandwich. If any of you have seen these stupid “California – it’s the Cheese” commercials, I just have to say how much I hate them. Most of the cheese you find here completely sucks and tastes like soap.

At this point there were only a handful of people in the lounge. I sat down and started working on my laptop. One of the other people in the lounge was also on his computer and he didn’t bother to turn the sound off. I’m not sure what he was doing, but his computer was beeping every so often, much to the chagrin of one particular gentleman sitting across from me. You know that facial expression of disapproval and the accompanying movement of the mouth? He did that every single time the beep went off and looked over at the guy with a look as if to say, “will you turn off ******* sound!”

One good thing about the lounge was that there was a nice selection of newspapers available. Here is the short list I came up with:

The Age (Australia)
The Weekend Australian (no doubt these last two were brought over on Qantas)
The Observer
The Sunday Telegraph
The New York Times
The Daily Mail

A number of magazines were also lying around. I actually picked up a copy of the Weekend Australian to give to my Australian friend down the hall from me at Keble (the one who lent me “The Assassin’s Gate” to read on the plane).

Eventually at about 5pm I decided to pack up my things and head down to the departures floor, spotting a couple of airplanes and waiting for my pending departure. I headed out of the lounge and went downstairs to the departures lounge and walked to gate 121. The aforementioned Air Tahiti Nui A340-300 was now gone and had been replaced by a Singapore Airlines A340-500, registration 9V-SGD.

When I reached the gate, I noticed that boarding had already started. There was no one in the “First/Business Class” line so I went through there and boarded G-BNLN. Upon stepping into the aircraft, I showed the purser my boarding card and he said “Right, up the stairs to our roof top garden sir” which I thought was a lovely greeting and much preferable to the simple “up the stairs to your right.”

Upon reaching the upper deck, I saw that only one other passenger had boarded. I sat down in my seat (62A) and made myself comfortable. I do prefer the upper deck to the lower deck for several reasons. First of all, it’s nice riding up top. Secondly, since the walls curves, there are storage bins next to the window seats which is great to keep your reading material or glasses accessible. I put my laptop bag in one of these bins and put my camera bag in the overhead bin.

Here is a shot of the bin that I am talking about. Sorry for the lack of brightness:



I was also pleasantly surprised to see that British Airways had changed the seat fabric – the new one was much softer. This addresses one of the two major complaints I had had about British Airways’ Club World from back in the day – that the seats were too hard. In my opinion, this is no longer the case.

No sooner had I taken my jacket off than the purser (Michelle) came and offered to hang it up. She later came back and offered me a glass of champagne, orange juice or water. I’m not usually a great fan of champagne, but figured what the hell and accepted it.

Here is a shot of me drinking the champagne:



Here are a couple of shots of the seats on the upper deck:





And here is my seat, 62A:



Not that many people showed up to the upper deck. Out of 20 seats, 6 were left empty. One of them was the seat next to me, 62B. Here is a photo of it:



I got out my camera and started taking some pictures as we pushed back from the stand. The safety video came on and I figured I’d take a picture of the some of the silly figurines in the video since I had my camera out but was stopped by the purser, who asked that I don’t take pictures of anything safety related. I think she was a bit confused as to what I was doing and just wanted to make sure that I wasn’t violating any regulations. I explained that I am an amateur aviation fan who writes trip reports online and promised that I wouldn’t take any more pictures of the safety video. She thanked me and walked back to the galley.

We then received the amenity kits. These seemingly hadn’t changed since the new Club World was introduced. Inside was a toothbrush, some socks, ear plugs, mouthwash, toothpaste, lip balm and cream:





As we cleared the apron at Tom Bradley, a Malaysia Airlines 747-400 was coming in and parked at Gate 123. I spotted a Mexicana Airbus A320 and noticed that it had a French registration, which I thought was a bit odd:



We soon made our way to runway 24 left. There were two Southwest Airlines A380-900s and a KLM 747-400 Combi (PH-BFR) ahead of us.



I also took shot of a Hawaiian Airlines 767-300:



Takeoff was smooth and we rotated just as we passed the remote gates at the west end of the LAX complex. It was a clear day outside and I took a couple of pictures of the beautiful California coastline. That is one thing I do love about Southern California – it has a beautiful landscape.

Here are some photos:





Moments after we took off, the crew came round with the menu and the drinks. Since I had already had some champagne, I decided to have some apple juice instead of my usual scotch on the rocks. Then came my first disappointment – having flown Club World 3-4x times a year until about 2002, I was a little bit upset to see that the small bowl of warm roasted nuts was gone and was replaced with a plastic bag of crummy macadamia nuts, not unlike what you would find in Economy! Not sure why they’ve cancelled this, perhaps it’s a cost cutting measure.

Here is a shot of the nuts and the apple juice:



And one of the menu:



When I was finished with the apple juice, the F/A came back to collect the glass and asked me if I would like anything else. I replied that I didn’t. Soon after, the purser passed by to take orders for dinner. The options were as follows:

STARTERS

Blue crab salad with mango

Or

Mozzarella cheese, sun-blushed tomatoes and grilled artichokes dressed with peppered olive oil

Fresh seasonal salad served with vinaigrette

MAIN

Grilled fillet steak with green beans, carrots and potatoes au gratin

Seared citrus salmon on fire-roasted pepper sauce, sautéed spinach and saffron rice

Spinach and roast garlic tortellini with pomodoro sauce and grated Parmesan cheese

Duck confit and foie gras on fresh salad leaves with orange dressing

DESSERT

Key lime pie

Aged Cheddar and Danish Blue cheese


I asked for the mixed green salad and the fillet steak with a glass of Italian red wine.

I started reading a bit of my book and eventually the crew came round with dinner. Therein came my second disappointment – whereas they used to set the tray table with a large cloth napkin, now the dinner tray comes with the cloth napkin on it. It’s a small thing, but I think it detracts from the experience.

Here is the tray table:



Here is a shot of the mixed green salad and a piece of bread (the crew later came round with a second piece of bread).



I was pleasantly surprised to find metal cutlery as opposed to plastic that I remembered having been given previously (9/11, anyone?)



The salad was pretty good and was all I wanted for the first course. The second course was the beef and that was quite good as well, although it was really quite oily.



Dessert was key lime pie with chocolate truffles. I ate the pie (which was fabulous, in fact) and left the chocolates for later. I had a cup of tea as well.



During dinner, I watched “England’s road to Germany” which is an hour-long documentary on British Airways’ Sports Channel about England’s triumph in the World Cup qualification stage. Rooney, Lampard and Owen look fantastic up front. England are looking pretty good actually, but have they got what it takes to win the World Cup this year? I sincerely hope so as England is my favourite team. Is anyone else sick of seeing Brazil win?

Anyway, after the trays were collected, I decided to recline the seat to 180 degrees and relax a little bit while listening to my iPod that my roommate gave me as a birthday present in 2005. I opened the amenity kit and got out the ear plugs and put them on. I then reached for my noise-canceling headphones that were given out on my Concorde flight in 2003, connected my iPod to it and put them on. I lay there on the bed for about 1 hour just relaxing.

Here is a shot of the bed fully reclined:





Here are some other photos of the seat, starting with the control panel:



Here is the TV and the small fold-out tray for drinks. The TV swivels back for storage:


There is a gap between the seat and the side bin where you can keep your shoes:



Here is the Ottoman which can be swiveled around depending on how you want to set your feet:



As far as the seat/bed is concerned, I found that the seat comfort has been improved with the introduction of the softer fabric. However, my other complaints from three years ago still stand. The seat is too narrow and the fact that it slopes downwards makes it difficult to get really comfortable. It seriously takes some time to get comfortable in this chair. I spent 10 minutes fidgeting around until I could figure out what to do with my hands. The top part of the chair is closed off by the pod and really, unless you are content with sleeping on your back with your hands at your sides, it’ll take some time to find a position you like.

In addition, at 5’ 7” or 5’ 8” tall, I barely fit on the seat and my feet dangled over the edge. If you’re any taller than that, forget being able to stretch out completely. I think you’ll have to assume a cocoon position to sleep properly.

Now, before I start sounding like a whining devil (perhaps I already have), I just wanted to say that these criticisms that I am leveling at the Club World flat bed are comparative differences between it and the Club World Cradle Seat that preceded it. I seriously think I would have been more comfortable in the cradle seat, though it was definitely preferable to the Virgin Atlantic Upper Class Seat (J2000 seat) that I flew on in 2004.

Anyway, I did eventually manage to get some sleep and despite all the complaining on here, I was asleep for a good 4-5 hours and woke up when the cabin lights were turned back on.

We were about an hour and a half away from London when breakfast was served. I was offered a plate of fresh fruit or some cereal and milk. I choose the fruit and was pleasantly surprised to find that the fruit actually had taste. The crew also came round with a basket of pastries. I took a muffin and was pleasantly surprised to find that it was nice and warm. Note Sven-Goran Erickson



I was then offered a bacon roll with ketchup. I took the roll but declined the ketchup – not really a fan. I had a cup of tea followed by a cup of milk over breakfast while watching England’s Road to Germany a second time.

Here is the bacon roll:



Eventually the trays were collected and we prepared for landing. The crew handed out landing cards, a Fast Track immigration pass and an invitation to the Arrivals lounge:



With 20 minutes remaining in the flight, the fasten seatbelt signs were switched on as we continued our descent into Heathrow.

Here is a shot of the BA maintenance hangar:



As the tyres of the aircraft gently kissed the tarmac of Runway 27 R, I thought to myself, “God Save the Queen” as I usually do when landing in the UK. We slowed down without the help of reverse thrust and taxied to Terminal 1. After we arrived, an Air India 747-400 came in for landing on the runway and used thrust reversers, which surprised me because I had been under the impression that they weren’t allowed to on that runway due to noise regulations? Again, someone please fill me in.

Here is the Air India 747-400 coming in with the thrust reverses deployed:



There wasn’t really any interesting activity at Heathrow on this morning. I did, however, get a nice view of G-RAES as we were taxiing on the ground:



I also caught my first glimpse of the Turkish A330-200. I tried to see if the Middle East Airlines A330 or A321 was around, but didn’t see anything. I can’t remember if they operate on Mondays or not…I think they don’t.

Eventually we arrived at the stand and parked next to sistership G-BNLU:



The engines and the fasten seatbelt sign were turned off at 11:32 – we were well ahead of schedule. Deplaning was quick and easy and after about 10 minutes of walking, I reached the immigration area of Terminal 1. Before landing, “Fast Track Immigration” invitations were handed out and I used it to go through the Fast Track line. When I arrived, there was no one in the queue so I went through very quickly. Amazingly enough, the baggage carousel for our flight had already been assigned and I waited for my suitcase to come out. Bags started to come out almost immediately.

After about 5 minutes, my bag came out but I must have been daydreaming, as I didn’t initially notice it and it passed me by. I waited for it to come back around. Just as it was passing the conveyor from where bags were coming out onto the carousel, a huge brown box fell on it and some lady a few feet away from me tried to get the box off. I helped her do so, and as a result, missed my bag again! I eventually got it on the third go.

By this time, it was about noon and I knew I wasn’t going to make the 12:00 OxfordHeathrow coach back to Oxford. I had been given an invitation to the British Airways arrivals lounge at Terminal 1 and I entertained the thought of checking it out for a few minutes, but then decided to just go and wait for the next coach.

The walk from Terminal 1 arrivals to the Central Bus Terminal is about 7 minutes, with the major bottleneck being the lift up from the underground walkway to the bus stands. I reached the stand at about 12:10 and waited for about 20 minutes for the X70 coach to show up.

By 12:45 we were already leaving Heathrow and heading out for the M40. There is something refreshing about being in the UK and I don’t know what it is. Perhaps it’s the familiar dreariness of Heathrow airport, the driving on the left or the predictably dismal weather, but I always find myself glad to be here.

I had hoped that in the week that I was gone, the previously bare trees were going to fill up with colourful leaves, the weather was going to become warm and we could finally kiss the winter goodbye, but alas, during my brief absence, the only thing that had changed was the time.

We arrived at the Thornhill Park and Ride around 13:36 and made a few stops before reaching Gloucester Green (the central bus station in Oxford).

Overall, I had a very pleasant trip with British Airways. My experience at the airport could only be described as relaxed. I really didn’t have to suffer through any queues – not at check-in, not at the baggage-drop, not through security, not during boarding, not during deplaning, nor during immigration at Heathrow nor even during baggage collection.

On board, the crew was as professional and efficient as I had come to expect from British Airways. In addition, the flight attendants were friendly, funny and charismatic. I did, however, notice a couple of downgrades in the catering. These were limited to the absence of the warm nuts during the first drinks service and not setting the tray table as I remember that they used to do back in the day. These might seem like trivial points but I can’t really call either of them cost cutting schemes, so why the change? Either way, these two points constitute the extent of my complaints about the service.

I thought that I would briefly summarise the few questions that I had while writing this trip report in the hope that someone can enlighten me on these points:

Why do we have to do the baggage drop?
Where does Air India fly from at LAX?
What are other lounges like at LAX?
What was the reasoning behind the service downgrades?
Does anyone think England stands a chance of winning the World Cup?
Can you use reverse thrust on 27R? If not what was the AI 744 doing?
What is the British Airways Arrivals facility like?

Hope that you enjoyed the report. If you’ve bothered to read this far down, please leave some comments. I’m worried that these reports are getting unnecessarily long and long-winded!

Kindest regards,

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:42 am

Nice report! Great pics of BA Club World. I enjoyed reading it!
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:53 am

Another enjoyable read, thanks for posting it. Great pictures as well.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:01 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
During dinner, I watched “England’s road to Germany” which is an hour-long documentary on British Airways’ Sports Channel about England’s triumph in the World Cup qualification stage. Rooney, Lampard and Owen look fantastic up front. England are looking pretty good actually, but have they got what it takes to win the World Cup this year?

Why bother? Team Canada is going to sweep right through... just like the 2006 Olympics Mens Hockey....wait a sec...hmmm....d'oh!!!  wink 

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:26 am

Excellent and very complete report on a product I am pretty familiar with  thumbsup 

Interesting you swapped from 14A upstairs as 14A isn't an exit row but is one of the few seats where you don't need to climb over anybody to get to the aisle. If you've flown in 64A or 64K it is a similar deal. In my view though upper deck wins by virtue of being upper deck and having the extremely useful side bins as you mention.

62A is an excellent seat, one of my favourites on the upper deck  thumbsup 



Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
For some odd reason, the check-in lady (who was Lebanese) wanted the credit card with which I booked the ticket. I fortunately had it, but I wonder why she wanted it to begin with. What if someone else had bought the ticket for me and I didn’t have the credit card? Security reasons, perhaps

When you make the booking you can check a box that makes a note on the booking that the cardholder shall not be travelling.

I've been asked for the credit card only once on BA and that was when I booked the ticket 4hrs before the flight. Maybe because it was so short notice it was highlighted as being stolen....Even though it was my own card.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
The lady gave me my bag back (after she had checked it in) and told me to hand it over to the security agents for screening. I hate how we have to go through this misery at LAX. First of all, it’s a huge hassle, especially if you’ve got multiple bags or are traveling with children. Secondly, it usually takes forever and I’m not exactly sure what the point of it is. There must be some reason – perhaps one of you on here can enlighten me.

Anyway, fortunately for me, there was NO ONE there at the baggage drop, so I simply handed my bag over and once they had screened it, I was free to go.

AFAIK, this is if you wish to send your luggage locked. The bag is then given a sticker by the TSA that indicates it doesn't need to be opened behind the scenes.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
Has anyone been to a decent lounge at LAX? What is the Admirals Club like at T4 and what is United’s Red Carpet Club like? I wonder, can a oneworld elite traveler go to any of the oneworld lounges, such as a British Airways passenger go to the Cathay Pacific or LAN Chile lounge?

AA Flagship Lounge in T4 is rather good  thumbsup  I haven't been for a while but it is much better than the other LAX lounges I've been to.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
And here is my seat, 62A

That is 61A  Wink

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
There is a gap between the seat and the side bin where you can keep your shoes:

In 62A there is a handy little cubby hole between a blue wall and 62B. It is useful for putting shoes, carrier bags and the like. Doesn't scuff them up as much as being wedged between the seat and the sidebin  Wink

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
What is the British Airways Arrivals facility like?

It isn't bad. I went there when I flew back from SFO and they had a breakfast buffet and the showers are superb  thumbsup  Having said that it doesn't have any windows and isn't as well appointed as the T4 counterpart. I have some pictures at the end of this report: BA Club World: LHR-SFO-LHR September 2004 (by Fbgdavidson Oct 13 2004 in Trip Reports)
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:50 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
There were two Southwest Airlines A380-900s

LOL that'll be the day!  bigthumbsup 

Great trip report though, keep it up and just think about it, undergrads have it worse off than masters students in finals! What masters are you on? And what college?
 
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:50 am

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The AI 747 is using reverse thrust.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:09 am

Great Report, and I only hope England wins the World Cup, since Scotland and Canada have no hope.
 
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:19 am

Another great report Mike.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
I�m worried that these reports are getting unnecessarily long and long-winded!

Not at all...I find all your reports quite amusing.I am sure lots will agree here.


Check your email too.



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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:41 am

Very nice report as always, however...

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
Note: if you’re from the Bay Area, read the last sentence as “not bad when you take into consideration the traffic on 405 Freeway.”

Actually, most of us up here would simply say "the 405," leaving off "freeway." Article before road number is a California standard, whether north or south.  Smile It took me a while to get the hang of it when I got here, but once you get in the habit it sticks.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
“California – it’s the Cheese” commercials, I just have to say how much I hate them. Most of the cheese you find here completely sucks and tastes like soap.

Dunno where you've been shopping, but I've yet to encounter any local cheese that tastes like soap!  Silly
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:31 am

Thanks for the comments guys, and thanks to F-OMEA for pointing out that I incorrectly labeled this report LHR-LAX instead of LAX-LHR.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 4):
That is 61A

Oops...right you are, thanks for the correction.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 4):
In 62A there is a handy little cubby hole between a blue wall and 62B

Indeed - that's where I put my laptop bag. It said it was certified for 9kgs/20lbs but I put it in there anyway.

Quoting BAtriple7 (Reply 5):
undergrads have it worse off than masters students in finals! What masters are you on? And what college?

Haha...well in the sense that undergrads have three years worth of cumulative finals, I suppose they do have it worse off. I'm on the Masters in Financial Economics at Keble.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:39 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
Great Report, and I only hope England wins the World Cup, since Scotland and Canada have no hope.

Oi, Mitch. Well never win with that attitude! As long as our soccer coach does not become involved in an illegal gambling ring, we may have a chance!

Cheers,
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:21 pm

I'm glad LH459 clarified the Bay Area traffic verbiage. I would have - thanks LH459! AirxLiban, your use of words create an incredible trip report. Thanks so much for a t/r enjoyably read! And I can see your concern with the small things. The sense of refinement is somehow lost with "packaged" cocktail "nibbles" in Business. Small things that don't affect cost are those touches that make an impression. Just my opinion.

Thanks again for a great report!

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:19 pm

good luck with them - I am at SPC but hang out on South Parks Rd during termtime!
 
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:20 pm

Interesting report, thanks for posting. I have only flown BA once and I agree that the Club World seats are far too narrow and not long enough. At 6 foot, I found the seat to be infact quite UNCOMFORTABLE in that I had to sleep in a cocoon position. On the far superiod QF Skybed I can completely stretch out and always get lots of sleep.

Overall, I would say the BA seat might be fine if you are 5"6', but if you are taller than that, forget about it. Go first class, or QF J class.

I am trying SQ's J product next week SYD-SIN-KHI and back, so looking forward to sampling the SpaceBed.
 
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:43 pm

Another great trip report, a refreshing change from WTP  Smile

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
Does anyone think England stands a chance of winning the World Cup?

Yes, I do think so, just aslong as Sven keeps his mind on the football, and not on finding a new job or thinking of what he can spend his money on.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
What is the British Airways Arrivals facility like?

It's bassiclay a lounge, but with showers and toilets.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
Where does Air India fly from at LAX?

The fly from LAX to FRA amd Bombay.
The route goes: Bombay-FRA-LAX-FRA-Bombay.

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:42 pm

Excellent report!

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
an Air India 747-400 came in for landing on the runway and used thrust reversers, which surprised me because I had been under the impression that they weren’t allowed to on that runway due to noise regulations? Again, someone please fill me in.

Reverse idle is permitted, this will deploy the reversers and make the reverser noise, but full reverse thrust is not activated.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:38 pm

Quoting MilesDependent (Reply 14):
the Club World seats are far too narrow and not long enough.

The can't be much narrower than the Skybed that QF has, but the QF product does feel superior. I think it's due to the layout of the QF product - it's extremely well thought out.

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
To be honest, the lounges at Bradley all seem to suck. Well actually, Bradley itself just sucks. Has anyone been to a decent lounge at LAX? What is the Admirals Club like at T4 and what is United’s Red Carpet Club like? I wonder, can a oneworld elite traveler go to any of the oneworld lounges, such as a British Airways passenger go to the Cathay Pacific or LAN Chile lounge? I noticed that the one I was in was shared between BA and Qantas.

Yeah the TBIT lounges are really bad. The QF/BA shared lounge you were in isn't very good. The Aer Lingus / Asiana lounge is a about the size of my living room and very poor. The CX lounge, where I wanted to go, was closed when I was there.

You do have access to all the oneworld lounges as long as you're flying on a oneworld operated flight and are oneworld Ruby or Sapphire. As such, I would recommend using the Admirals Club / Qantas Club in Terminal 4. It's vastly superior to any of the other lounges I've seen. There are no free drinks for AA passengers in that lounge, but QF pax and FFs can get vouchers from the desk, as many as you like.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:48 pm

The lounge looks excellent, but of course when you travel economy you would think anything related to business class is better than economy class

Excellent trip report by the way

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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:55 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
It seems as though my trip reports would not be complete without the requisite picture of my dog, so here we go.

I'll call animal rights. Poor dog doesn't look happy to be abused as a photo model.  silly 

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
The Club World check-in queue was empty and I went up to the desk and handed my bag over for tagging. For some odd reason, the check-in lady (who was Lebanese) wanted the credit card with which I booked the ticket. I fortunately had it, but I wonder why she wanted it to begin with. What if someone else had bought the ticket for me and I didn’t have the credit card? Security reasons, perhaps.

If you buy an e-ticket, the credit card is usually the "Form of Identification" (called, FOID). You can specify another card, e.g., mileage card, or passport as FOID.
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:05 am

excellent trip report - as always. Your name on a trip report is always a hallmark of quality!

enjoy Oxford - was back there the other day for a walk round in the spring. Very nice!
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:18 am

Nice report Mr. Airxliban. Enjoy Trinity and maybe you will treat yourself to First on the trip home!
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:38 am

Those look more like FC seats. I've flown BA Club (upper deck) albeit a few years ago and it never looked like that! And I had an exit row seat.
 
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Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 22):
Those look more like FC seats. I've flown BA Club (upper deck) albeit a few years ago and it never looked like that! And I had an exit row seat.

They upgraded CW a few years back - to be revolutionary for Business. That's why the rest of the industry is having to react!
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Quoting BA380 (Reply 23):
They upgraded CW a few years back

Ah that explains it. It's about 7 years ago. It was very good though, it was our honeymoon. The hostess gave us big bottle of champagne when we landed and when I said I don't drink the stuff she gave me 6 beers as well to take to our resort.
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:17 am

Hi AirxLiban, another great trip report, i cant wait for more...  thumbsup   thumbsup   thumbsup 

1 thing caught my eye:

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
There were two Southwest Airlines A380-900s

Im not sure about that...
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:41 am

Welcome back to Oxford. Now that Kassam has sold Oxford United, maybe you'll see some decent football there before the season is up!

Enjoy a pint at O'Neil's on George Street...
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:51 am

I forgot to mention, for future reference on these redeyes into LHR, and if you have time skip breakfast onboard (it is usually rubbish) and go for the far superior Arrivals Lounge breakfast. The one small problem is if you have luggage the useless berks in T1 take so long for it to come through that the breakfast has been cleared by the time you get to it  Sad Either way the Arrivals Lounge is still open until 2pm.

I wrote my reply earlier in two parts so forgot a little bit. The food you had was exactly the same (with a slight variation on the salad) as I had on a pre-Sleeper Service flight from Washington to London last year. The service was the abridged version of yours as the key lime pie remained on my tray for the whole meal service for some odd reason! BA293/292 Club World - LHR-IAD-LHR (with Pictures) (by Fbgdavidson Apr 4 2005 in Trip Reports)

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 17):
You do have access to all the oneworld lounges as long as you're flying on a oneworld operated flight and are oneworld Ruby or Sapphire.

To avoid our AA Golds and the like getting very excited I think you mean OW Emerald and Sapphire  Wink
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 26):
Enjoy a pint at O'Neil's on George Street...

Er....why? Oxford's full of good pubs w/out having to go to a chain!  champagne 
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:25 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
Arabic speakers out there will find this amusing

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl  This is funny!!

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
If any of you have seen these stupid "California -- it's the Cheese" commercials

The stupid one they show in Ohio is the "Great Cheese comes from Happy Cows, and happy cows come from California!!"..... real cheeZee commercial  Wink

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
Does anyone think England stands a chance of winning the World Cup?

 sarcastic  i doubt it!!

GO ITALY!!!

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
I'm worried that these reports are getting unnecessarily long and long-winded!

 no  nope! Your reports are very amusing and fun to read, especially when you're sitting in 75 min. class!!!
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:44 am

Excellent Report! Were you able to visit up in the cockpit prior to depature? As I noticed the door was open in your seat shot...Joe
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:05 am

I find the comments about the bed being too short quite interesting. I flew back from LAX on Saturday and I'm 6'1".....didn't have a problem sleeping in any position, including on my stomach. Yes, my feet did hang off a little in that position, but it wasn't a big issue....anyone short than I am, should be find, unless they sleep half way down the bed.

Good trip report however. I agree that checking in the bags in LAX is a bit of a hassle, when you have to drag then over to be screened after checking in. The screeners somehow managed to rip the tag off one of my bags during the process, so it didn't arrive in LHR with me. Luckily, there was a name tag with flight number and other details, so it was sent over on Sunday and forwarded to me.
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:07 am

Great Report. Hope all goes well with your Masters. By the way, the USA team in #5 in the world and is going to win the Cup.

Keep up the good work.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:33 am

Quoting JN744 (Reply 32):
the USA team in #5 in the world and is going to win the Cup

Keep dreaming sonshine. The only place the cup is heading this summer is to England.

Come on Eng-er-land!!!
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:57 am

Great report!

Just one question though: on your second pic of the CA coastline, is that a nuclear plant in front of the city?

Just wondering....
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:07 am

Enjoyed your trip report and the pics.

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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:07 am

g-day

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
What are other lounges like at LAX?

I hadn't seen a reply to this so...
I have commented on Qantas' lounges in LAX (4th floor, not the one you went to), I haven't tried the one you went to (is it the one that’s on the 5th floor?)
Qantas other lounge that it shares with JAL on the 4th floor, is worst looking then the one you went to!!!!!  Sad
Qantas shares a lounge over in T4 with AA, and even if you are flying out of Bradley i think you can still go over there!
Now I'm not to sure about BA, but I'm sure if you called and got a nice lass/man on the phone that they would tell you what the deals is.
Can anyone confirm that the AA lounge in T4 is alright?!?!?!
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:29 pm

Quoting Tbear815 (Reply 12):
I'm glad LH459 clarified the Bay Area traffic verbiage. I would have - thanks LH459

lol...don't you guys drop the 'the'? I've been up there a few times and you guys say "take 880 to 680 to 101" whereas in socal they'd say "take the 880 to the 680 to the 101" so I thought what I was saying was a logical extension of that rule, haha.

Quoting BAtriple7 (Reply 13):
I am at SPC

St Peters?

Quoting MilesDependent (Reply 14):
Overall, I would say the BA seat might be fine if you are 5"6', but if you are taller than that, forget about it. Go first class, or QF J class.

Agreed...well not quite 5'6", but if I was any taller I think I might have some trouble.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 15):
Another great trip report, a refreshing change from WTP

Thanks...indeed WTP was getting a bit long in the tooth.

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 16):
Reverse idle is permitted, this will deploy the reversers and make the reverser noise, but full reverse thrust is not activated.

Ah - thanks for the clarification.

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 17):
The can't be much narrower than the Skybed that QF has, but the QF product does feel superior. I think it's due to the layout of the QF product - it's extremely well thought out.

In my mind its dreadfully narrow, hopefully they'll address this in the cabin redesign.

Quoting Lordanmol (Reply 18):
Excellent trip report by the way

Dhanyawaad... Wink

Quoting Beowulf (Reply 19):
I'll call animal rights. Poor dog doesn't look happy to be abused as a photo model.

Haha, you're right, she does look a little werided out. She was pretty upset that day. She knows when we are leaving because of the bags. My dad usually gives her a treat and puts the animal channel on for her while we are gone because she doesn't like staying at home alone.

Quoting BA380 (Reply 20):
excellent trip report - as always. Your name on a trip report is always a hallmark of quality!

LOL...thank you.

Quoting Door5Right (Reply 21):
Enjoy Trinity and maybe you will treat yourself to First on the trip home!

Perhaps I'll turn up to the airport in subfusc, say that I got stood up at my wedding and ask for an upgrade Big grin

Quoting Viper911 (Reply 25):
Hi AirxLiban, another great trip report, i cant wait for more

Thanks!!

Quoting Viper911 (Reply 25):
Im not sure about that...

Oh I'm sorry...must have been A380-800s then  Wink

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 29):
nope! Your reports are very amusing and fun to read, especially when you're sitting in 75 min. class!!!

Glad that I was able to help distract you!

Quoting 747LUVR (Reply 30):
Excellent Report! Were you able to visit up in the cockpit prior to depature?

Hey joe, thanks for the comments, you know I was going to ask the purser if I could visit the cockpit after landing but after the incident with my camera I didn't dare ask about going to the flight deck. Perhpas next time!

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 33):
Come on Eng-er-land!!!

I would seriously cream my pants if England won - that would be nirvana for me, and I'm not even English! Though a part of me would be upset to see that goon Beckham happy.

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 34):

Just one question though: on your second pic of the CA coastline, is that a nuclear plant in front of the city?

Hmm...I don't think so. I'm not quite sure what that is, perhaps some Socal natives can fill us in. One thing about that area (El Segundo) is that all the defense companies (Aerospace, Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Northrop etc) are all there so perhaps that's one of their buildings.

Quoting DALelite (Reply 35):
Enjoyed your trip report and the pics.

Thanks m8!
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Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 22):
Those look more like FC seats. I've flown BA Club (upper deck) albeit a few years ago and it never looked like that! And I had an exit row seat.



Quoting BA380 (Reply 23):
They upgraded CW a few years back - to be revolutionary for Business. That's why the rest of the industry is having to react!



Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 24):
It was very good though,

The cradle seat was very good! I would have preferred to be in the cradle seat than the flat bed. Alright so it didn't recline flat but there was much more room.

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 26):
Enjoy a pint at O'Neil's on George Street...



Quoting BAtriple7 (Reply 28):
Er....why? Oxford's full of good pubs w/out having to go to a chain!

No worries there's time for both!

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 27):
The one small problem is if you have luggage the useless berks in T1 take so long for it to come through that the breakfast has been cleared by the time you get to it Either way the Arrivals Lounge is still open until 2pm.

What time does breakfast end and are there other sandwich type things available later on? How does it compare to VS Arrivals incidentally...if you have any idea?

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 27):
The service was the abridged version of yours as the key lime pie remained on my tray for the whole meal service for some odd reason!

It seems as though you travel in F/J fairly often, did you notice the downgrades I mentioned (the nuts and the setting of the table)?

Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 31):
I flew back from LAX on Saturday and I'm 6'1".....didn't have a problem sleeping in any position, including on my stomach. Yes, my feet did hang off a little in that position, but it wasn't a big issue....anyone short than I am, should be find, unless they sleep half way down the bed.

Really? What did you do with your feet? Were you sitting at a window or an aisle...the windows have got those barriers at the end so if you want to hang your feet over I would have thought that you'd have to bend uncomfortably.

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 36):
I have commented on Qantas' lounges in LAX (4th floor, not the one you went to), I haven't tried the one you went to (is it the one that’s on the 5th floor?)

Yup I went to the 5th floor one, they all look like they're rubbish though!
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:43 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 37):
Quoting BA380 (Reply 20):
excellent trip report - as always. Your name on a trip report is always a hallmark of quality!

LOL...thank you.

my pleasure. I am adding you to my RR list as one of my three Preferred Suppliers of Trip Reports - you, Fraser Davidson and Cambrian.  Wink
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:45 pm

Cracking report. must get bored of LHR-LAX-LHR . ever considered doing a diffrent routing. Do you fly over Glasgow on this flight as see ba747s going high up might of seen you!!!
 
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:58 pm

Great pictures. What is a bacon roll? Is it pieces of bacon which includes also the fat? I am guessing there is also eggs in it? Thanks.
 
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:54 am

Quoting Semsem (Reply 41):
What is a bacon roll? Is it pieces of bacon which includes also the fat? I am guessing there is also eggs in it? Thanks.

It basically a slice of bacon (with the fat) in a roll, no egg.

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Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 38):
What time does breakfast end and are there other sandwich type things available later on? How does it compare to VS Arrivals incidentally...if you have any idea?

It looks like it is breakfast or bust. I don't often fly into T1 on longhaul but at T4 they clear away the hot breakfast buffet at noon.

Haven't been to VS Revivals. That'd mean flying VS.....ughh  Wink

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 38):
It seems as though you travel in F/J fairly often, did you notice the downgrades I mentioned (the nuts and the setting of the table)?

The nuts are usually in the little prepackaged bags in J whereas in F they have a little dish of Macademia nuts. I agree it looks cheap but must be considered one of those differentiators from F I guess...


As for the tablecloth on the tray maybe my mind has been frazzled but I don't remember it being anything but it being the the tray with cloth over the top. To be honest I'm not too surprised as the FAs have to be pretty flexible to get the tray over to some of those non-aisle seats! In the old cradle seats it wasn't so much of an issue.
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:58 am

Great report and pics ...

BUT .. this:

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
As the tyres of the aircraft gently kissed the tarmac of Runway 27 R, I thought to myself, “God Save the Queen” as I usually do when landing in the UK.

was a bit too theatrical , sorry. (rolling eyes and making puke gesture).
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:15 am

Thanks for explaining the mysterious bacon roll. I lived in Britain many years ago and I never came across one.
 
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:38 am

Excellent Trip Report, BA J Class is definatly a very comfertable way to travel!

Glad you enjoyed!!

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Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:14 pm

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 40):
Cracking report. must get bored of LHR-LAX-LHR . ever considered doing a diffrent routing. Do you fly over Glasgow on this flight as see ba747s going high up might of seen you!!!

Thanks for the comments, actually I am trying to get silver status with BA so I think I'll still with them for now. I actually have an upper class upgrade waiting for me the next time I fly VS so I'll probably fly them soon...at least while they've still got the 744 on the routing, don't want to fly the 346 or 343 in UCS.

As for the routing, if I'm not mistaken we usually straddle the channel between Ireland and Great Britain, but sometimes fly over Scotland.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 41):
What is a bacon roll? Is it pieces of bacon which includes also the fat?

It's basically just a piece of bread with some butter and a piece of bacon in it as WB was saying, so nothing special.

Quoting Fbgdavidson (Reply 43):
I agree it looks cheap but must be considered one of those differentiators from F I guess...

Fair enough, but they used to serve the warm roasted nuts in a small china bowl back in the day, at least thats how it was the last time I flew LHR-LAX in J (2002). I can't remember if they set the table or not at the time...but they definitely did in the days of the Cradle Seat and the J class seat that preceded it (i think thats that one that the 744s were delivered with).

Quoting MajorNelson (Reply 44):
was a bit too theatrical , sorry. (rolling eyes and making puke gesture).

LOL...i like the royal family!

Quoting BritPilot777 (Reply 46):
Excellent Trip Report, BA J Class is definatly a very comfertable way to travel!

Hehe...it sure beats economy!
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:55 pm

"Francetastique" trip report, can't add more than that, you know what my connection is like at the moment, thunder in the air !

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RE: BA Club World LAX-LHR Upper Deck With Pix

Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:41 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Thread starter):
We soon made our way to runway 24 left. There were two Southwest Airlines A380-900s and a KLM 747-400 Combi (PH-BFR) ahead of us.

Did not know that SW is already flying a airbus 380.
Don't think they have ordered the 380.

I think it is a 737  Smile

For the rest an excellent report

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