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Sat May 27, 2006 10:12 pm

MEL-LAX-JFK-BOS-SFO-HKG-MEL, Circle Pacific 1st Class QF-AA-CX-QF 5th – 22nd May 2006. This was the 2nd tier Circle Pacific 1st class fare available on OneWorld carriers. It represents great value as compared with normal return airfares (e.g. approximately a third less), the only stipulation being you have to go via Asia in one direction and via the South Pacific in the other. However, this is no great sacrifice given that all the flights I used connected, e.g. outbound: QF93/QF107/AA4609; AA183 for BOS-SFO; then inbound: CX873/QF30. Overall, it adds about 7 hours flying because quickest inbound would be SFO-SYD-MEL or SFO-LAX-MEL at about 15 hours compared with 22 hours via HKG, although elapsed time difference would be not as great due to connection hassles in LAX or SYD. I prefer to avoid either airport if I can, especially LAX which is abominable with all its security chaos and people with attitude.

I travelled on an international e-ticket for the 1st time and this was to prove a bit tricky with carriers other than QF. Check-in with QF in MEL was smooth enough with baggage checked through to BOS and boarding passes for MEL-LAX and LAX-JFK. However, on checking in at JFK for the JFK-BOS boarding pass, the AA people were perplexed and fiddled around for ages. I had to go to AA ticketing to resolve it. Thankfully, the terminal was not crowded. You will notice that I did not go LAX-BOS direct. This is because it would have been on AA, where the service is terrible. This decision was vindicated on the BOS-SFO sector where the service on AA was indeed terrible. Check-in at SFO with CX also took a lot longer than normal because of problems with them reconciling the e-ticket number with the CX computer records. OneWorld needs to get its act together.

Anyway, back to MEL for the first leg of the journey.

Duty Free shop before going airside at MEL

After check-in I proceeded to the QF 1st class lounge where I had bircher muesli and cappuccino while waiting the boarding announcement. The lounge is fairly basic and doesn’t offer much, but then it was mid morning so you don’t really want much.

Qantas 1st class lounge at MEL

As I was boarding, I noticed that the 747-400 ER was “Wunala Dreaming”, an aircraft QF have decorated in Aboriginal motifs.

“Wunala Dreaming” waiting at gate


View of tarmac at gate from seat 2K

QF93 was excellent. I must say that QF have lifted their game considerably. This was to be confirmed also with the other QF flights QF107 and QF30. The F/As were exceptional, taking a very attentive and friendly approach. One of the F/As on QF93 remembered me from a previous flight and so this also helped make the flight very enjoyable.

F/A settles 1st class passengers into their seats

The food was very good. I noted that QF had upgraded the champagne offered to vintage Dom Perignon!

Glass of Dom Perignon and nibbles before departure


Various other aircraft on the MEL tarmac

Taxi to runway for takeoff


Shortly after takeoff at MEL

Continuing to climb over Tullamarine


Champagne and canapés before lunch


Flying over Australia’s Capital, Canberra


Leaving Australian coastline at Wollongong


Menu for the flight


Lemongrass and Coconut soup with seafood dumplings


Salad of baby cos, radicchio and frisee with balsamic vinaigrette


Confit of duck with roast parsnip, wilted spinach, warm pear and endive


Blue, soft and hard cheese hand selected by Will Studd


Dark chocolate and almond cake with double cream


A selection of Kennedy & Wilson chocolates

After a very elaborate lunch, I settled down to a movie and then drifted off to sleep listening to my iPod through the Bose headphones, a combination no one should be without, especially when flying long haul. QF93 is about 13 hours, but I slept for about 7 of those thanks to calm flying conditions, a couple of Temazapan pills and of course lots of Dom Perignon.

Never fly long haul without this duo


The spacious 1st class bathrooms

A few hours before landing at LAX, breakfast is served.


Bircher muesli, juice, fresh fruit, and croissants

Scrambled egg with smoked salmon and crème fraiche

Probably the last decent cappuccino I’ll see for a couple of weeks


Descending over the Los Angeles sprawl

The relentlessly flat Los Angeles landscape


On final approach to LAX


Landing at LAX


taxi to gate at LAX


A familiar neighbour at the next gate

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Looks like we beat UA840!

Arrival at LAX was fussy as usual where transit passengers (i.e. me) have to go out of the arrival terminal and back through security again. Why is this necessary when we have all been screened prior to boarding in MEL? And the LAX security is ridiculous. Pompous and intellectually challenged security guards do their best to treat you with contempt. I am sure a determined terrorist could outwit them, yet the rest of us have to put up with all this crap. Also, why is it necessary for US Immigration to finger print and photograph passengers who have already been processed in this way on a prior trip. Surely they should be matching passengers re-entering against previously recorded information. At least the whole process of the transfer took only about 45 minutes, although it seemed like an eternity at the time.

Anyway, once through all this I was in the AA 1st class lounge in Terminal 4 at LAX. As previously reported, this is quite a nice lounge. I was able to have a refreshing shower before boarding QF107 to JFK.


Seated in 1A with champagne and canapés before departure


Topping up with Dom Perignon


Menu and winelist for the flight


Salad of hot salmon and roast capsicum salsa


Salad Nicoise with seared tuna


Dessert and cappuccino


Baked pear and ginger custard with vanilla ice cream


Somewhere transcontinental USA

This flight was excellent as well. I noted the IFE was completely VOD, unlike the flight from MEL. It provided me with the opportunity to watch a movie when I wanted rather than to a pre-determined schedule. A pleasant enough way to wile away the time during the 5 hour flight.


Qantas IFE on this flight was VOD

Arrival in JFK was spectacular with good views of the Manhattan skyline in the late afternoon and an interesting approach which involved some sharp banking prior to landing.


Manhattan skyline in the distance


Approaching JFK


Final approach to JFK


Notice the shadow cast by QF jumbo just before landing


UA aircraft with new livery at JFK


BA aircraft at terminal 7


Nearest neighbour at gate

My trip report for the further journey will feature in a separate report to be posted soon.
 
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Sat May 27, 2006 10:39 pm

What a great report! What a trip you are having. Thanks for sharing.
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Sat May 27, 2006 10:50 pm

Great report! Wow, QF First Class looks really nice! The bathroom sink looks amazing; I've never seen a sink like that before on an aircraft.
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Sat May 27, 2006 10:51 pm

Nice report. I don't like Qantas's toilets. But apart from that, great!
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Sat May 27, 2006 11:10 pm

Great report and pix.. thanks for sharing..

The food on QF looks delicious! or is it because i'm hungry  tongue 


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Sun May 28, 2006 12:07 am

I enjoyed it. Great pictures. First class is a nice way to fly.  Smile
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 1:23 am

Very nice report! Makes me more in encouraged to try QF's new YVR-SFO service. Time to use my miles!
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 3:25 am

Brilliant report - lots of pics and thank you for including the menus! It's very important in my opinion. Looks like I am going to have to grab one of those circle fares!
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Sun May 28, 2006 10:43 am

Great Report. Looking forward to the other half. Thanks.
 
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Sun May 28, 2006 3:04 pm

Nice report, the service looks superb. It's a shame that you can't just book a domestic LAX-JFK ticket on QF, it would be so fun to fly.

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Sun May 28, 2006 6:04 pm

NICE picture mate!!!
Zach, I agree with you, I wish that I could fly from LAX to NYC with Qantas, just domestic! ohh would that be fun!

I like the bathroom. looks like I might have to get a circle fare to!!
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Sun May 28, 2006 8:44 pm

Oh what a marvellous trip report! I hope I will fly First Class one day  Wink
Too bad that they use plastic knifes, but I agree that it's a safety issue.
 
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Mon May 29, 2006 3:40 am

Quoting Crdaus (Thread starter):
Never fly long haul without this duo

A men to that! My bose QC2's and my ipod never leave my side when flying long haul!

Another item i am yet to get but i know will also be a must on long haul flying is a green thing, i will enlighten you more when i get it.

The seared tuna is wonderful, i had it on LH flying F FRA-YYZ. It tastes just marvellous.

Thanks for this report, im flying LHR-LAX-MEL-CNS-SYD-LAX-LHR later this year on AA and QF and look forward to seeing what their product is like. Albeit with only legs in Y and J tho! No F for me this time. But i have got an F trip on QF planned soon.

Thanks for the report!

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Mon May 29, 2006 4:32 am

Qantas First looks great.

However, I've never understood why airlines insist on serving crackers with their cheese course. Any sane person knows that a cheese course must be served with bread.

Also, your last good cappuccino for 2 weeks? Come on. This is New York City. I can send you to at least 100 great coffee houses serving a killer cappuccino (and I don't mean Starbucks).
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Mon May 29, 2006 4:48 am

Great pics! I'm so jealous. How do all of y'all afford all these first class and biz class tickets? What am I doing wrong?

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Mon May 29, 2006 5:10 am

Quoting Planecrazy2 (Reply 9):
Nice report, the service looks superb. It's a shame that you can't just book a domestic LAX-JFK ticket on QF, it would be so fun to fly.

You can on SFO-YVR though... so I think you should book it  Smile
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Mon May 29, 2006 9:58 am

Great shots Big grin

Didn't know QF fly into JFK. I always thought they codeshared with AA using the 757  Smile
 
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Mon May 29, 2006 10:25 am

Wow! what a report! Great pics, and those meal pics reminds me it's time for dinner.

Wish I could have done the same!
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Mon May 29, 2006 2:23 pm

Quoting 767747 (Reply 2):
The bathroom sink looks amazing; I've never seen a sink like that before on an aircraft.

That also caught my attention! The times I flew Business Class (wait for me, First!) the bathroom was pretty much the same than in Economy, so this was a nice thing to see. The food, especially the one on the LAX-JFK leg, also looks superb. Thumbs up for Qantas!

Great trip report!

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Mon May 29, 2006 3:47 pm

Quoting Joffie (Reply 16):
Didn't know QF fly into JFK. I always thought they codeshared with AA using the 757

LAX-JFK is all 3 class 762.

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Mon May 29, 2006 7:29 pm

Great report - tell me what were the loads like in First for the 2 legs.

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Mon May 29, 2006 9:47 pm

Quoting Joffie (Reply 16):
Didn't know QF fly into JFK. I always thought they codeshared with AA using the 757

They fly three times weekly from LAX-JFK. I think the plan is for it to go daily eventually.
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Mon May 29, 2006 9:50 pm

Quoting QANTASpower (Reply 20):
what were the loads like in First for the 2 legs

1st was full in both legs.
 
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Tue May 30, 2006 12:14 am

Awesome report!

The photo titled "Approaching JFK" is of the neighborhod where I live!  Smile
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Tue May 30, 2006 7:37 am

Classic Lover -

QF fly LAX - JFK return 5 x weekly.

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Tue May 30, 2006 10:24 pm

Gosh - that food looks good!
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Tue May 30, 2006 11:02 pm

Very nice report, and pictures! Flying 1st class that route must be nice! Big grin I have flew that route in economy though...


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Wed May 31, 2006 4:01 am

Quoting QANTASpower (Reply 24):
QF fly LAX - JFK return 5 x weekly.

Yes, but you can't book to fly it unless you're originating outside the USA. You have to have some other QF sector in your ticket to fly this sector. The LAX-YVR isn't affected by this.
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Wed May 31, 2006 10:43 am

As usual, quite telling. And most enjoyably so. You write a superb report. Due to US regulations, you can't fly a foreign carrier between 2 US ports without prior or subsequent onward journeys. When RTW flights taveled with a routing HNL/SFO/NYC, there were stopover privileges, but the international leg had to be either prior or after the domestic leg on the same carrier. QF US transcon puts any domestic carrier to shame. US airlines could do this kind of inflight at one time, but no more. All you a.netters out there - this is what is was like before de-regulation.

And, of course, QF first has always been one of the finest - there is your basic!

Crdaus - thanks, mate, for a good read!

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Wed May 31, 2006 12:00 pm

i don't usually comment on reports unless I think they are good and yours was an excellent balance between detail, being concise, and pictures throughout the report. Glad you had an enjoyable trip.
 
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:34 am

What a nice report to read! QF looks amazing! Except- what where they thinking with that cheap looking woodgrain traytables?
 
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Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:16 pm

My next instalment of my Circle Pacific trip, the BOS-SFO leg is now posted here BOS-SFO 1st Class On AA (20 Pics) (by Crdaus Jun 1 2006 in Trip Reports)
 
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:44 am

Quoting Crdaus (Thread starter):
Arrival in JFK was spectacular with good views of the Manhattan skyline in the late afternoon and an interesting approach which involved some sharp banking prior to landing.

Judging by your explanation and supporting pictures this was the infamous Canarsie Approach to runway 13L. Can anyone confirm this?

Very nice trip report. Just curious, what are the loads like on QF LAX-JFK since they cannot pick up local passengers?

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Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:49 am

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 32):
what are the loads like on QF LAX-JFK since they cannot pick up local passengers?

1st class was full on my flight. I don't know about the other cabins. However, a couple of days ago there was an incident involving a QF107 flight after landing at JFK. While it was taxiing to gate at JFK, the wing clipped a fence. It was reported that 200 pax were aboard.
 
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:58 pm

wow simply stunning! Travelling in style never thought about how nice it could be if I ever fly long haul over the ocean I'll be sure to pay for the finest. Thanks for the trip report.

Quoting Crdaus (Thread starter):
Arrival at LAX was fussy as usual where transit passengers (i.e. me) have to go out of the arrival terminal and back through security again. Why is this necessary when we have all been screened prior to boarding in MEL?

Between the time you switch terminals you could get something potentially dangerous thus re-screening...

Quoting Crdaus (Thread starter):
Also, why is it necessary for US Immigration to finger print and photograph passengers who have already been processed in this way on a prior trip. Surely they should be matching passengers re-entering against previously recorded information.

I'd have to agree with you on that one. Quite an inefficient system don't you think?

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Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:50 pm

I'm not really sure, but I think sometimes airline personnel can fly a domestic leg of an international carrier as long as the flight has been cleared by C/I. I remember meeting people in Hawaii with UA who had flown JL SFO/HNL (yes, it was a jet and it was a 747!) The loads on UA were just too heavy.

I'd love to know if I am correct - it may not be possible now, but it surely was then. Thanks all!

Tbear

And Crdaus, I'm looking forward to your trip report from SFO/to the land of wonder! I've been downunder three times and I'm ready to go again!  bouncy 
 
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:01 am

You can read my 3rd instalment of my Circle Pacific trip report covering SFO-HKG-MEL on CX and QF here SFO-HKG-MEL 1st Class On CX And QF (43 Pics) (by Crdaus Jun 5 2006 in Trip Reports)

I will write another report for a forthcoming trip return MEL-LHR on QF29 and QF30 in September.

[Edited 2006-06-05 04:03:19]
 
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:05 pm

I've already read the report and commented!
 
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:21 pm

You are a lucky guy to have that trip!
Take a new trip and bring the camera again!  Smile
 
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:58 pm

spectacular pictures! Looks like QF has a great F product, I'm definitly jealous. I totally agree with you on the LAX security nightmare...Please don't think they represent all of us here in the states...lol
I'll be looking forward to the next report!
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Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:02 am

Do I spy Nicholas Whitlam sitting in F with you from MEL-LAX?

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Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:27 am

Great report - I've flown Qantas SYD-LAX-JFK in Business, and have enough miles saved on my AA account to do it again, but I may have to save up for First now... Big grin

Quoting Crdaus (Thread starter):
Arrival at LAX was fussy as usual where transit passengers (i.e. me) have to go out of the arrival terminal and back through security again. Why is this necessary when we have all been screened prior to boarding in MEL? And the LAX security is ridiculous.

Because you have access to your checked bags when you claim them to go through Customs. There are items that are legal for checked bags, but not for carry-on - in particular, knives. Thus, rescreening is necessary. It's a pain, particularly given how badly security backs up at LAX - when I went through there on QF 107, as we came out of C&I Qantas had a staff member there to direct us to bypass the main line, as we'd miss the plane otherwise.
 
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Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:51 am

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 40):
Do I spy Nicholas Whitlam sitting in F with you from MEL-LAX?

javascript:;

No, it is not him. I rarely see anyone famous in 1st. They probably fly in private jets!
 
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Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:48 pm

Great report, great pics. Am I to understand that the lexicon of Australian mustards is so vast that mustard has ceased to be considered a condiment?!?
 
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Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:58 pm

Crdaus - good report. I flew QF First to LHR 2 weeks ago - great to read/see it on another leg. IMO QF have really nailed the relaxed contemporary luxury product with their First.
Can I ask - where/how did you book a OW Circle Pacific fare? Internet, or agent? I can find plenty of info online re the RTW explorer fares etc, but not much on Circle Pacific.
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Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:27 pm

Quoting Ecuatoriana707 (Reply 44):
Can I ask - where/how did you book a OW Circle Pacific fare?

I booked the fare with Jetset Malvern. You can see the details of the fare here http://www.bestflights.com.au/cgi-bin/208f/flights?maindetails=4003
 
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Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:49 pm

very good trip report i loved the pics all of them where very good. thanks for sharing.  Smile
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Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:30 am

Quoting Crdaus (Thread starter):
Somewhere transcontinental USA

Those may be the San Gabriel Mountains. This image looks familiar.

Great Trip report. Also, does QF use actual silverware of some kind of flatware? The photos look like silverware. Again thx for the report.  Smile

Good Day  Smile

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RE: MEL-LAX-JFK 1st Class On QF (lots Of Pics)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:47 am

hey great trip report and great amount of pics. sucks that thers not vod on every flight. flew virgin fc last year london-jfk and they had the most incredibly large library of films, tv etc all on demand!

not so sure bout qantas food but the rest looks great
 
crdaus
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RE: MEL-LAX-JFK 1st Class On QF (lots Of Pics)

Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:57 pm

Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 47):
photos look like silverware

It is stainless steel, not silver.

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