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FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:12 am

Trip Report: 002
Date: 02-Aug-06
Dep./Arr.Time: 0954/1130/02:36hrs (Ontime)
Flight: AIR TRAN, FL 880
Routing: EWR-MDW
Aircraft: 717
Seat: Economy, 18A

I > Background:

I am in NYC for work and never having flown FL or the 717, decided to do a quick day return to Chicago to break my virginity on both.

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport: Booking was easy using FL's online site at www.airtran.com. I made a mistake online and their toll-free support was helpful and quick in getting my basic problem fixed.

b) At Airport: Checkin at EWR was pretty straightforward using FL's kiosks ... though, these can ONLY be used if you dont have any checked baggage. As the pictures would show, their operations at EWR is skimpy and this is reflected on the limited ground support. What really bugged me about their check-in process is that once you have selected a seat (either online or at the kiosk), you cannot change it without speaking to an agent. EWR security was brisk and soon I found myself at the Concourse A gate. Concourse A at EWR is pretty spartan and there are limited eating and drinking options.

Agent at the check-in was good and soon I made my way to my first FL and my first 717.

Upon entering the plane, I was greeted by 2 friendly FL agents. I was surprised at how small the 717 felt. I dont know if its 717s in general or FL's configuration, but it felt very cramped. Making my way to the back of the plane, I was seated next to a young Jewish-American returning from 2 months in Israel. I was impressed by his maturity in our conversation regarding current Israeli offensive in the region.

Check-In:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0004.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0005.jpg
Airport:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0006.jpg
(wonder how many people buy stuff from this...)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/2d57def1.jpg

In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions: Push back was on time, and soon we were on to the WINDY CITY (and, where I had spent 4 years doing a damn PhD.). There were no safety demonstration videos and it was good to see the crew make the announcements. In my over 2 million miles of flying, I have never figured out why they mention how to buckle a seat belt after the aircraft has started taxing out. I mean, aren¡¦t seat belts supposed to be work before. I digress. After initial pushback, we were number 35 to take off ... which resulted in a 36 minute hold, and enabled the flight to reach on schedule ... 2:36 was the padded flight time. After cruising altitude, crew came to distribute free headphones for listening to XM and to take home. Crew came soon afterwords with the drinks trolley and I was served a pretzel bag (which had these fun FL cheesy jokes) and a can of Diet Coke. The crew were surprisingly jovial and smiled throughout it all. The male purser even asked if I wanted the can. On U.S. carriers, small friendly gestures such as the same, left me with a smile. Soon thereafter, I reclined my seat and let my iPod take me away to a different world.

b) Aircraft + Seats: Air Tran's 717s were clean and the blue interiors were soothing to the eye. However, I found seating to be on the cramped side.

Aircraft:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0014.jpg

Seat Leg-Room:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0024.jpg

Seat Recline + Angle View:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0025.jpg
Cabin:
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0011.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0028.jpg

c) Meal:

It¡¦s a domestic American flight, so no real meal presentation.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0027.jpg

d) Inflight Entertainment:

The 717s are equipped with XM Satellite radio and the choice of channels was impressive. Sound using the provided earbuds was above average. Air Tran's inflight magazine (GO) is informative and contains the basic information.

(See Meal Service For Inflight-Magazine Picture)

e) Crew:

FL¡¦s crew truly left me impressed. They were all smiles and joked with the passengers and seem to genuinely be happy doing their job. The return crew was the same.

Post-Flight:

Chicago Midway continues to be convenient ¡K but not the best in terms of airport planning. Air Tran uses the remote gates A4B and this is FAR from the baggage reclaim area. Security lines on the return flight were long and if the flight had not been delayed, I would have surely missed it. Shopping options have expanded at MDW, and the food court is the generic mall-type food you will find in most of the U.S.

Chicago/MDW Airport:
(Arrival Gate):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0012.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0015.jpg
(Food Court):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0017.jpg
(Aircraft Display):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0016.jpg
(MDW From Outside):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0019.jpg

Impressions + Scores:

My first 2 flights on Air Tran have left me impressed. Of course, I cannot judge FL globally, but within the U.S., their service seems to have been a notch above the average. Their crew definitely stood out with the genuine warmth of service. Along with punctual service, it satisfied my need to be transported from point A to B without stress. I do wish their online and kiosks were better equipped and could do basic things such a as seat change. I would fly them again without hesitation.

Reservation: 7.0
Check-In: 5.0
Lounge: N/A
Boarding: 8.0
Seat: 6.0
IFE: 6.5
Crew Service: 8.5
Food: 5.0 (standard default score, when served only peanuts)
Beverages: 5.0 (standard default score, when served only beverage)
Amenity Kits + Others Freebies: 5.0 (standard default score)
Disembarkation: 8.0
On-Time Record: 10.0
OVERALL IMPRESSION: 6.73

(Scores are based on comparison with other airlines in THAT class of service ¡V No comparison of Y vs. F for example)

Other Non-Trip Pictures:
(Scene at MDW):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0020.jpg
(Scene at EWR/VS to LHR):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/9e30de5a.jpg

(Scene at EWR/AI to BOM via CDG):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/b3439406.jpg

(Other EWR):
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0029.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/CIMG0035.jpg

[Edited 2006-08-05 03:16:24]

[Edited 2006-08-05 03:18:27]
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tmarch291
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:33 am

Good report,

It's nice to hear a report once in a while about AirTran, the airline that everyone gets confused with ATA. (I admit, before I was an aviation buff, I confused them too) From your report AirTran seems like a good airline, they got the job done and they had good crew service too.

Now I have a few questions...

How much did you pay for your ticket?

and, Did you notice if they served food on their J class?

Tim
 
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:48 am

Quoting Tmarch291 (Reply 1):
How much did you pay for your ticket?

= USD 117.00 round trip inclusive of all taxes.

Quoting Tmarch291 (Reply 1):
and, Did you notice if they served food on their J class?

= Sorry, did not pay attention. Perhaps a FL crew member or someone more familiar and can help.

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mbmiles88
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:13 am

First of all, AirTran does not serve any food in business class. All you get is bigger seats, more snacks and free alcohol. Second, to the OP, AirTran does not fly out of the US so their is no "global" service to rate.
 
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:05 pm

Quoting Mbmiles88 (Reply 3):
AirTran does not fly out of the US so their is no "global" service to rate.

= Technically, FL does go internationally ... to Bahamas  Wink. Anyways, all I meant was that when I rate an airline, I do not pay much attention to the flag.

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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:17 pm

Mi amigo, muchas gracias,

I really appreciated reading this report. I've been around a long time and this particular report made me realize the expectations of "flying" and the reality of "flying." How corporate philosophies and management styles have evolved in the 50's-80's and then 80's-today are amazing. Things can never go back, but to be creative is to look to the past for growth and inspiration.

This report shows an airline that is trying hard. With the right direction, FL has incredible potential. I've not yet studied their system, but intend to poste haste! Your report hit all the "spots" for my criteria. You're right up there with Chris and Fraser!

Tambien, muchas gracias,

Rod
 
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:38 pm

Quoting Tbear815 (Reply 5):
Your report hit all the "spots" for my criteria. You're right up there with Chris and Fraser!

= Thanks so much for your generous words. Look out for upcoming trip reports ... I have a lot of flying left this year and some of them will be truly exotic  Smile.

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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:13 pm

Nice report Ive had similar nice experiences on FL. The planes are a bit uncomfortable but the crews really make up for it.

JBLU
 
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:13 pm

Nice report & some good photo's.

The 717 is nice little plane to fly on, nice & quiet.

Rgds

Mark
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:41 pm

Very good report! Air Tran looks pretty good; I'll have to fly them soon. Nice pictures of EWR.

Looking forward to more reports!

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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:08 am

I really liked that... and those pics were awsome. Who did you fly into EWR on????
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:21 am

Quoting Flinhion757 (Reply 10):
I really liked that... and those pics were awsome. Who did you fly into EWR on????

= I am on mission in NYC ... and glad you liked the pics. I am going to have some cool trip reports up soon.

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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:10 am

Glad you enjoyed my favorite airline. I've always felt the 5-across seating felt less cramped than 6-across on the 737, even though the seat pitch might be the same. The seats on the 717 feel a bit wider than 737 seats.
 
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:12 am

Legally I must first say, that my opinions in now way are related to the opinions of AirTran Airways or its affiliates...

This is the kind of stuff that us FL employees love to read, we need reinforcement like that. Thank you for choosing AirTran Airways, and well be glad to see you again on another flight. Yes the 717 is an amazing plane, it always smells nice, its the quietesed mainline jet ive ever been on in my life, and you cant feel a bump, it certainly is my favorite domestic aircraft by boeing along with the 757. AirTran made a good choice by making it the backbone of our fleet.
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:36 am

Nice report and pictures. Thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:09 pm

Thanks for the TR, Ill be flying FL soon and Ill be doing a trip report on FL soon! I hope I'll be able to go to the HQ of FL when I'm in Orlando  crossfingers 
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:32 am

Cool report...I just flew AirTran last weekend and was very happy with them. And I've shopped at the "Jersey" store! Forgot to pack a pen for one flight and got a cow-motif "Moo Jersey" pen there - still have it!

And I prefer the 717 (a/k/a the MD-95 to us grumpy gits  Silly ) to AirTran's 737s...
 
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:05 pm

Good report and great pictures.

The seat pitch on Air Tran DOES look quite tight, but being 5'5 myself I should be ok if I ever take a flight on them.

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tu154
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:47 am

Great report.

Regarding the demonstration of seatbelts, the FAA requires the demonstration of seatbelts on all flights.


I believe this is required worldwide , no?
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:51 am

IN REFERENCE TO ABOVE POST......CORRECTION.






ok.....just reread the post, should have done that before i posted, sorry.


yeah, seatbelts should be fastened before pushback so why demonstrate after?
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RE: FL 880: 02/AUG/06: EWR-MDW: Y Cabin (pics)

Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:28 pm



Quoting Tu154 (Reply 18):
Great report.

Regarding the demonstration of seatbelts, the FAA requires the demonstration of seatbelts on all flights.


I believe this is required worldwide , no?



Quoting Tu154 (Reply 19):
IN REFERENCE TO ABOVE POST......CORRECTION.






ok.....just reread the post, should have done that before i posted, sorry.


yeah, seatbelts should be fastened before pushback so why demonstrate after?

= Jaja. No worries. It was a trip down memory lane to re-read my first ever TR  Smile. So, thank you  Smile.

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