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Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:24 pm

Feedback always appreciated.

Trip Report: 010
Flight Category: Y-DMR (See Report End)
Date: 26-Sep-06
Dep.Arr.Time: 2000/2205/02:05hrs (Delayed by 01:15hrs)
Flight: INDIAN, IC 202, 816 miles
Routing: DEL-CCU
Aircraft: 320
Seat: Economy, 12A

I > Background:

Part of a month long amazing passage to India for a wedding, with some stops in Asia to see friends. Routing was CCS-MIA-EWR-SIN-CGK-SIN-CCU-DEL-CCU-BOM-CCU-IXZ-CCU-IXA-GAU-CCU-SIN-ICN-YYZ-EWR-CCS with a mix of J and Y class of travel. This focuses on the IC segment from DEL to CCU. Other trip reports for this trip will be EWR-SIN (SQ/J-Cabin), SIN-CGK (KI), CGK-SIN (VF), CCU-DEL (SG), CCU-BOM (S2), IXZ-CCU (DN), CCU-IXA (CD), IXA-GAU (IT), GAU-CCU (6E), CCU-SIN (SQ/J-Cabin), and ICN-YYZ (AC/J-Cabin). I think these reports will be “firsts” for revenue flights on SG, CD, IT and 6E and cover IXA, GAU and CCU-IXZ for the first time on Airliners.Net.

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport:
Booking for the sector was made using Indian’s clearly managed website (www.indian-airlines.com) which listed all the various fare buckets and what was available. I got a “time-out” error twice before being able to proceed. One cannot make seat selections online and this cannot also be made by calling IC’s call centers. However, you can pre-select seats by going to the airport.

b) At Airport:
After a fantastic short stay of Delhi (which is rising fast to be one of my favorite cities in the world), I was dropped at Indira Gandhi International Airports (IGIA) terminal 1A. This is used solely by IC and IT. Security in Indian airports is tight and my e-ticket printout was carefully scrutinized by the police before letting me in. As a note, you are NOT allowed outside after printing your boarding pass. The taxiway is right next to the entrance and I was deafened and awed as a mighty Air-India 744 passed by as I was waiting to get in. Really great spot to watch planes. Once inside, there are a few kiosks including a bookstore, a café, some ticketing offices, a lounge, etc. Next step is all hold-baggage screened and tagged with a seal-proof marker showing the date and flight before heading to check-in.

IGIA-1A follows what I call the Indian Airport Design School (IADS) – also see (http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/87827/, where I used the acronym for the first time.) IADS is the socialist-era airport construction frame of Indian airports. However, at Delhi, there had been major improvements in lighting inside the terminal, and it felt fresher than before. Also, the washrooms are brand new and a pleasant break from past washroom experiences at Indian airports. Signage left much to be desired however.

Check-in was brisk and the very stern IC official duly checked me in and fulfilled my request for an exit-row window seat. He also informed me of the hour long delay due to “late arrival of incoming aircraft.” Since “security check” had not been called (you cannot clear security and go into gate area without your flight being called in most Indian airports), I walked around the terminal area and explored the limited options. The airport is more like an Indian railway station with 1 bookstore, 1 restaurant, and some kiosks for mobile phone companies.

Within 30 minutes of check-in, an announcement was made that Indian regrets the delay and that all passengers would be given free dinner upon presentation of their boarding card at the airport restaurant run by Sheraton. IMPRESSIVE! Not to ever miss out on free food, I proceeded to a rather nice Indian style buffet dinner. I was very impressed by the continuous flight updates and the proactive nature of Indian to compensate passengers for an hour delay with a good dinner. After gaining a few more pounds, I cleared security and soon was in the spartan waiting area … nothing really than a hold area with a café counter. Again, clean new bathrooms and airport issued mobile phone charging stations. There was also an e-kiosk soliciting feedback on the airport.

During boarding, people rushed to form lines … I never figured why we in Latin America or the Indians do this … especially when everyone is pre-assigned a seat. We were bused to our packed Indian A-320 where the security questioned me on why I was taking pictures at the tarmac. Thankfully, I had my Indian Government papers in order.

Upon entering the plane, I was greeted by a very blah looking head stewardess and an upcoming newcomer full of energy and smiles. She walked me to the seat and even asked me if I wanted anything prior to departure! By the way, Y class load was 100%.

Airport - External:

(Indira Gandhi International: Terminal 1A, New Delhi)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/1-7.jpg
(Outside departing board)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/2-7.jpg

Check-In:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/3-7.jpg

Airport - Internal:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/4-7.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/5-7.jpg
(Random things from my ONLY-IN-INDIA collection)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/6-7.jpg
(Here is the amazing full course meal provided immediately after a short delay was announced. Served upstairs @ Sheraton Lounge – MAJOR points to Indian)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/7-7.jpg

Scenes of the tarmac:

NONE

Boarding:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/8-7.jpg

III> In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions:
Service on board IC was absolutely fantastic. Passengers were greeted with a choice of refreshing cold towels, sweet and candies, earbuds, and a range of juice options. The FA assigned to my section of the Y cabin was very eager to have dirty towels collected before takeoff and even had to have the lead FA come and tell her to go to her seat as we were entering the active runway. Post take-off, we were served a very yummy dinner (vegetarian or non-vegetarian option). Being a fan of Indian food, I found the food to be stellar and especially noteworthy given that we had already been served dinner at the lounge. Post food, coffee or tea was served and soon it was time to descend at Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose Airport (NSCBIA) in Calcutta.

b) Aircraft + Seats:
Clean and well lit, IC’s 320 does not show its age. However, I did miss the traditional Indian décor from earlier IC’s aircrafts. Legroom is adequate for a short flight and recline is above average. Bathrooms are well maintained – this was a surprise as IC bathrooms have traditionally been very dirty.

Aircraft:

(I like this view of the IC 320 with the lights)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/9-7.jpg

Views from Aircraft:

NONE

Seat Leg-Room:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/10-7.jpg

Seat Recline + Angle View:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/11-6.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/12-7.jpg

Cabin:

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/13-7.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/14-7.jpg

c) Meal + Beverage:
For a 2 hour domestic flight, the food was absolutely excellent! The 2 entries (chicken curry and vegetable curry) were served with rice and was hot and fresh. Portion was also generous for Y travel. Silverware in Y was an added feature. Indians don’t use forks when they eat … perhaps this is why the fork was in plastic? Oh, the yoghurt/milk based desert was VERY yummy. Perhaps my Indian friends can tell me what it is called? Oh, no alcohol on-board … but that is an Indian government rule.

(Pre-take off stuff)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/15-6.jpg
(Dinner … again … and, I ate again! I must have gained 20 pounds in India)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/16-6.jpg

d) Inflight Entertainment:
One of my big gripes about IC was its lack of IFE. No video screens, no music. Though, the in-flight magazine “SWAGAT” was impressive and was complemented by a wide range of English and Indian language dailies.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/17-6.jpg

e) Crew:
Indian’s crew was fantastic. The new recruit was probably one of the best FAs I have encountered in a while. She had genuine charm and warmth and it was apparent she enjoyed her job. Her older superiors were also very amiable … though perhaps a tad more jaded. I can go on about the crew … it was just perfect … sort of the stuff that comes from the heart … and not the robotic obligatory service I find in say SQ or EK.

IV> Post-Flight:

Kolkata domestic airport is convenient. Bags came by the time I had reached the carousel. I also like the hi-speed internet café within the terminal. Big props up for CCU management. Pre-paid taxi lines were huge … though, this I am told is attributable to the presence of the big festive season here.

Kolkata Airport:

(My favorite thing @ CCU is the presence of an internet café – something other airports in India should include)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/18-6.jpg

V> Impressions + Scores:

This is definitely not your parents INDIAN. I found Indian to be an absolutely gem of a carrier. Impressive was the complimentary meal service at DEL for a flight whose 45mins-1hr delay had just been announced. Flight crew was absolutely near perfection and the meal service was a culinary delight. The big drawback was the tired aircrafts and lack of IFE. Thankfully, the order of 43 brand new IFE in every seat will take care of it. I strongly recommend IC and would pay a price differential to take it over other low-cost private airlines.

Reservation: 7.5
Check-In: 6.5
Lounge: n/a
Boarding: 6.0
Seat: 7.0
Aircraft Overall Ambience: 7.5
IFE: 5.5
Crew Service: 9.0
Food: 9.5
Beverages: 7.0
Amenity Kits + Others Freebies: 5.0 (standard default score)
Disembarkation: 8.0
On-Time Record: 8.5
OVERALL IMPRESSION: 7.25

(Scores are based on comparison with other airlines in THAT class of service – No comparison of Y vs. F for example)

VI> Other Trip Reports:

1/ Avianca: BOG-LIM: 07/06/06: 7.09pts: Y-IMR
2/ Air Tran: EWR-MDW: 08/02/06: 6.73pts: Y-DMR
3/ West Jet: YYC-YVR: 09/05/06: 7.14pts: Y-DLR
4/ Air Canada: YYZ-YVR: 09/02/06: 5.92pts: Y-DLR
5/ Air Canada: ALB-YYZ: 09/01/06: 5.88pts: Y-ISR
6/ Singapore Airlines: EWR-SIN: 09/20/06: 7.81pts: J-ILR
7/ Adam Air: SIN-CGK: 09/22/06: 6.04: Y-ISR
8/ Valuair: CGK-SIN: 09/22/06: 5.04: Y-ISR
9/ Spice Jet: CCU-DEL: 09/25/06: 6.67: Y-DMR

(Note on Codes: Y – Economy, J – Business, F – First :: I/D – International/Domestic :: SR/MR/LR – Short/Medium/Long Haul :: I have designed these codes so people don’t believe my scores are comparing apples and oranges)

VII> Other Pictures:
(Pictures of New Delhi – mostly taken by good friend and fellow A.Netter kiramakora; New Delhi is truly outstanding! I thought I’d include some for your viewing pleasure)
(Jantar Mantar)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/19-6.jpg
(India Gate)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/21-6.jpg
(Government Buildings – Raisana Hill)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/22-4.jpg
(Broad RAJPATH)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/23-3.jpg
(Red Fort)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/24-3.jpg
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/25-3.jpg
(Diwan-i-Am, inside Red Fort)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/26-2.jpg
(Diwan-i-Khas, inside Red Fort)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/28-1.jpg
(Qutab Minar)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/30-1.jpg
(Inside Qutab Minar)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/29-1.jpg
(New Delhi Subway)
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k251/abrelosojosnow/27-2.jpg
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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:30 pm

Excellent report and pics.  Smile
 
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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:32 pm

Quoting 9V (Reply 1):
Excellent report and pics.

= Thanks Ian.

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:18 am

Great report!!! Nice pictures!

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:38 am

Really great report, totally changes my opinion of IC, previois reports seemed to indicate service was pretty poor.

Loved the pictures.

Thanks

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:12 am

Great report Alex. The pictures of Delhi look especially good ...
 
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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:29 am

Quoting Kiramakora (Reply 5):
The pictures of Delhi look especially good ...

Yeah that Red Fort looks like a great place to photograph.  Smile
 
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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:46 am

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 4):
Really great report, totally changes my opinion of IC,

= IC ground crew is still indifferent; however, this flight was great and in overall, I think IC is trying.

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:11 am

Great report - good to see that you're enjoying your journey through asia/India.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I think these reports will be “firsts” for revenue flights on SG,

Couple of minor nitpicks - I assume you're using SG for SpiceJet? In which case it's code is really 0S (with a zero).

And there are a couple of other revenue TRs on board Spicejet:
Spice Jet Report, BOM-DEL Via AMD. (by Himmat01 Jun 7 2005 in Trip Reports) Spicejet 0S - DEL-AMD-BLR - With Pics (by Nimish Nov 20 2005 in Trip Reports)

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
During boarding, people rushed to form lines … I never figured why we in Latin America or the Indians do this … especially when everyone is pre-assigned a seat

I'm glad to clear this pre-conceived notion - I'm currently in the US of A, and just finished 6 domestic sectors (UA SFO-BOS-SFO and FL SFO-ATL-TPA-ATL-SFO). Please be assured that it's not just the Indians or Latin Americans that do this, it's also the rest of the world (especially the americans). There's also a pre-conceived notion of Indians standing up the moment the aircraft is parked, believe it or not, I saw that on all 6 US domesitc sectors!!!

That being said, Indians have been "trained" to stand in lines for everything, and there's a sub-sect of Indians that have been "conditioned" to try and break a line or head straight to the head and sneak in!

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(My favorite thing @ CCU is the presence of an internet café – something other airports in India should include)

I've actually used the internet cafe in BOM, and I think I saw something similar in BLR as well (but not sure about BLR). BLR has wireless connectivity (not free) as well.
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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:28 am

Quoting Nimish (Reply 8):
Couple of minor nitpicks - I assume you're using SG for SpiceJet? In which case it's code is really 0S (with a zero).

= Actually, this is not true. 0S used to be the designator when Spice Jet was registered with IATA as Royal Airlines d/b/a/ Spice Jet. Since adoption of Spice Jet registered name, the IATA code for Spice Jet is SG. You can find more information on www.iata.org and on Spice Jet's website.

Quoting Nimish (Reply 8):
And there are a couple of other revenue TRs on board Spicejet

= Thanks. Good to know.

Quoting Nimish (Reply 8):
I've actually used the internet cafe in BOM, and I think I saw something similar in BLR as well (but not sure about BLR). BLR has wireless connectivity (not free) as well.

= Good to know. I wasn't saying that CCU was the only place - but that other airports need to put internet cafe's - like DEL for example.

Thanks for the comments.

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Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:38 am

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 9):
Actually, this is not true. 0S used to be the designator when Spice Jet was registered with IATA as Royal Airlines d/b/a/ Spice Jet. Since adoption of Spice Jet registered name, the IATA code for Spice Jet is SG. You can find more information on www.iata.org and on Spice Jet's website.

Oh OK. This is one of the confusing things - where Spicejet still continues to use 0S on their flight numbers, I wonder when they will start using SG instead?
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Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:16 am

Quoting Nimish (Reply 10):
where Spicejet still continues to use 0S on their flight numbers, I wonder when they will start using SG instead?

= I do not believe this is true either. If you go to www.spicejet.com and click on their schedules, all flights are marked SG.

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:20 am

An Awesome TR mate and i love your shot of the IC aircraft at night.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Thankfully, I had my Indian Government papers in order

Please do tell us details what was the conversation like and what was reaction when he saw your document.

Keep the reports coming really enjoying them

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Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:21 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 12):
An Awesome TR mate and i love your shot of the IC aircraft at night.

= Thank you. I am fond of it too!

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 12):
Please do tell us details what was the conversation like and what was reaction when he saw your document.

= Well, the security guy rushed to me with his rifle and the conversation was as follows:

SG: "What are you doing?" You cannot take pictures here.
ME: "Hold on." -- reach for the photography rule thing and give it to him -- "Please read this."
SG: "Yes, I will." -- takes the document and invites me to wait -- scrutinizes the document -- I start taking more pictures (haha, I always was a rebel)
ME: "Everything ok?"
SG: "Yes sir, yes" -- little embarrassed -- goes near the aircraft door and I can see him intensely reading both documents
ME: -- as I board the document -- "Satisfied?"
SG: -- clearly embarassed -- "Sir. Thank you so much. I learn something every day. Very sorry."

Aaw. What a nice guy! I really like Indian ground personnel. Anyways, I went off and wished him well. Told him I understood his position and he should always continue to be cautious as long as those cross-border elements exist. My Indian friend (and, A-Netter kiramakora) then "thanked him on behalf of the Indian people", took his name down, and later sent a personal letter to his higherups for being alert and being able to respond to a dynamic situation.

I miss India.

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:23 am

Great report and pictures. Loved reading it. Keep it coming!

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Thankfully, I had my Indian Government papers in order

Do you know where I can get a copy of the document. I would love to use when I am in India next time!
 
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Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:24 pm

Quoting Vtmaa (Reply 14):
Do you know where I can get a copy of the document. I would love to use when I am in India next time!

Check out the Indian Aviation forum at: http://www.airliners-india.net

There's a thread on this topic in the Aviation Law sub-forum - or directly access the thread here: http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spa...?forumID=83591&p=3&topicID=8415741
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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:37 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 15):
There's a thread on this topic in the Aviation Law sub-forum - or directly access the thread here: http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spa...15741

Thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:02 am

Please keep in mind that tarmac photography is prohibited. I had a fellow A.Netter get me a special permission.

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:08 am

Good to know that you were carrying the permit. I keep my permit with me always. I was once questioned by an elderly stewardess on AI as I was clicking pics inside the aircraft. However, I showed her the permit and she eyed it suspiciously for a minute before handing it back to me. She later asked me whether I was from the DGCA (Indian Directorate General of Civial Aviation)  Wink

I guess folks involved with aviation in India have still not got used to the change in rules regarding photography! I heard an announcement on a GoAir flight around 10 months ago mentioning photography was prohibited while flying over Indian territory!

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
We were bused to our packed Indian A-320 where the security questioned me on why I was taking pictures at the tarmac. Thankfully, I had my Indian Government papers in order.

Didn't anyone question you when clicking pics of the Delhi Metro? Delhi Metro has a clear "No Photography" policy and a couple of folks I know have been stopped from taking pics.

It's a nice pic though  Smile
 
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Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:08 pm

I have got plenty of request on the same and cannot emphasize that photography on tarmac is only allowed with special permission.

Quoting Vivekman2006 (Reply 18):
Didn't anyone question you when clicking pics of the Delhi Metro? Delhi Metro has a clear "No Photography" policy and a couple of folks I know have been stopped from taking pics.

It's a nice pic though

= Nope. No question asked.

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:47 pm

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 17):
I had a fellow A.Netter get me a special permission

Alex.
Permission for Tarmac photography would need permission in writing from the Govt Authorities & will take time. Smile
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Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:49 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 20):
Alex.
Permission for Tarmac photography would need permission in writing from the Govt Authorities & will take time.
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Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 17):
Please keep in mind that tarmac photography is prohibited. I had a fellow A.Netter get me a special permission.

= Mel, ya - I had the permission. It pays to have one of your best friends work in GOI and file the paper work for me.

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Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:51 pm

Nice report with great pics. Interesting to see the SQ logo on a packages item on your food tray  Wink
 
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Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:40 pm

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 21):
Mel, ya - I had the permission. It pays to have one of your best friends work in GOI and file the paper work for me.

Thats great.
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Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:25 am

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 22):
Nice report with great pics. Interesting to see the SQ logo on a packages item on your food tray

= I believe thats the logo of TAJ-SATS which is a local catering joint venture between TAJ and SIA-SATS. Indian A-Netters ... please correct.

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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Sat Jul 14, 2007 4:43 pm

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 24):
Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 22):
Nice report with great pics. Interesting to see the SQ logo on a packages item on your food tray

= I believe thats the logo of TAJ-SATS which is a local catering joint venture between TAJ and SIA-SATS. Indian A-Netters ... please correct.

You're right. It's a JV between SATS Catering and Taj Hotels.
I really think SATS should change its logo. It can be confusing to passengers on other airlines.
I know SQ would not want to see another airline's logo on it's meal tray.
So likewise, as a parent company of SATS they should not have SATS logo (with the SQ bird logo) on catering amenities which they cater for other airlines. SATS Catering never uses SQ logo for it catering for other airlines from SIN.
Don't know why it is done in India.
BTW, SATS has changed it's corprate colors from SQ's dark-blue and orange-gold to only orange and gold.
Don't see the bird now too.

Thanks for sharing o/b IC and sites. Am keen to visit India one of these days soon.
 
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RE: Indian IC 202: 26/SEP/06: DEL-CCU: Y Cabin

Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:03 pm

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
During boarding, people rushed to form lines … I never figured why we in Latin America or the Indians do this … especially when everyone is pre-assigned a seat.



Quoting Nimish (Reply 8):
Please be assured that it's not just the Indians or Latin Americans that do this, it's also the rest of the world (especially the americans). There's also a pre-conceived notion of Indians standing up the moment the aircraft is parked, believe it or not, I saw that on all 6 US domesitc sectors!!!

That being said, Indians have been "trained" to stand in lines for everything, and there's a sub-sect of Indians that have been "conditioned" to try and break a line or head straight to the head and sneak in!

First of all, great report, enjoyable read!

I am of indian origin, but have lived in the united states for my entire life. (my parents immigrated) I have been to india several times for family weddings, and also was amazed by the rush to create lines by folks in india, with pressure from the guy behind you to move forward! This type of assertive activity simply does not happen here in the US. My analysis of this pattern is that India is such a heavily populated place, that without proactivity in public situations, one would simply be left behind or left out. It has now become part of the ingrained culture of the subcontinent, so much so that when I am in India, I find myself jockeying for position in line just like the locals!
We're your kind of airline. Uh, I mean, We *were* your kind of airline.

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